How come apple pie is considered an "American" thing?

[Gremlin]

Mar 3, 2017 20:41:31 GMT -5 @vyse said:

You know what is American though? German chocolate cake.

Ooh! I know this bit of trivia. It's named after American chocolatier Samuel German.

[Hurbster]

Mar 4, 2017 0:43:58 GMT -5 Glitch said:

Americans loved it so much that they made it their own. Kind of like how curry has started to become associated with Japan.

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[Milkman Norm]

I'll try my hand at this:

Apple recopies date back to colonial times. As stated in prior post apple based dishes were common in Britain, Germanic Europe, The Low Countries and Scandinavia. Saying that early European colonial settlers into what became British North America came from those very places it was not surprising that they brought familiar dishes with them. But all those recipes had to be adapted. Growing seasons were different in length, sun level, rain levels and various other factors then in the old country. The crops themselves grew in different soil and may have been similar but not the same to the crop that was used in Europe. So the various recipes for apple pies that existed had to adapted.

The next step forward would be in the late 18th Century-Early 19th century (Let's say 1785-1820) when the new country of the United States was trying to create an identity other than former colonies of the United Kingdom. One of the ways this was done was through food. It also happened to be in this period when John Chapman (Johnny Appleseed) was touring the country creating new sweeter hybrids of apples. These apples were new "American" apples and they created a new "American" pie.

[edgestar]

I love apples, and I love pie, but I'm not a fan of apple pie

[SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman]

Mar 4, 2017 11:42:59 GMT -5 Milkman Norm said:

I'll try my hand at this:

Apple recopies date back to colonial times. As stated in prior post apple based dishes were common in Britain, Germanic Europe, The Low Countries and Scandinavia. Saying that early European colonial settlers into what became British North America came from those very places it was not surprising that they brought familiar dishes with them. But all those recipes had to be adapted. Growing seasons were different in length, sun level, rain levels and various other factors then in the old country. The crops themselves grew in different soil and may have been similar but not the same to the crop that was used in Europe. So the various recipes for apple pies that existed had to adapted.

The next step forward would be in the late 18th Century-Early 19th century (Let's say 1785-1820) when the new country of the United States was trying to create an identity other than former colonies of the United Kingdom. One of the ways this was done was through food. It also happened to be in this period when John Chapman (Johnny Appleseed) was touring the country creating new sweeter hybrids of apples. These apples were new "American" apples and they created a new "American" pie.

That actually makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

[Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃]

Caesar Salad....that's American too (not Italian)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_salad

The salad's creation is generally attributed to restaurateur Caesar Cardini, an Italian immigrant who operated restaurants in Mexico and the United States. Cardini was living in San Diego but also working in Tijuana where he avoided the restrictions of Prohibition. His daughter Rosa (1928–2003) recounted that her father invented the dish when a Fourth of July 1924 rush depleted the kitchen's supplies. Cardini made do with what he had, adding the dramatic flair of the table-side tossing "by the chef." A number of Cardini's staff have said that they invented the dish.

[Hit Girl]

I'm just glad Americans are at least eating a little bit of fruit.

[Milkman Norm]

Mar 4, 2017 14:53:34 GMT -5 Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 said:

Caesar Salad....that's American too (not Italian)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_salad

The salad's creation is generally attributed to restaurateur Caesar Cardini, an Italian immigrant who operated restaurants in Mexico and the United States. Cardini was living in San Diego but also working in Tijuana where he avoided the restrictions of Prohibition. His daughter Rosa (1928–2003) recounted that her father invented the dish when a Fourth of July 1924 rush depleted the kitchen's supplies. Cardini made do with what he had, adding the dramatic flair of the table-side tossing "by the chef." A number of Cardini's staff have said that they invented the dish.

As is the French Dip Sandwich.

[Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃]

Mar 4, 2017 18:07:29 GMT -5 Milkman Norm said:

Mar 4, 2017 14:53:34 GMT -5 Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 said:

Caesar Salad....that's American too (not Italian)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_salad

As is the French Dip Sandwich.

True....originated in Los Angeles.

[Amazing Kitsune]

Mar 4, 2017 10:10:42 GMT -5 Hurbster said:

Mar 4, 2017 0:43:58 GMT -5 Glitch said:

Americans loved it so much that they made it their own. Kind of like how curry has started to become associated with Japan.

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While Curry has its origins in Indian cuisine, curry is very much an extremely popular food in Japan. There are a lot of Japanese-style curry places here in Korea, which are very distinct from Indian curry places. It's really popular.

In Japan, for example, the Maritime Self Defense force serves curry every Friday and they have since the Imperial Navy days. When I visited Yokosuka in Japan, there were dozens and dozens of places to buy curry mixes associated with the region and whatnot.

So yeah, living in Korea I totally see how people could associate curry with Japan...because it's often associated with Japan over here.

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Blame the commercial:
"Baseball, hot dogs, Apple pie & Chevrolet..."