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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 18:00:16 GMT -5
I have not experienced this level of inhumanity on twitter.
I'm also very selective about who I follow and aggressive with the mute settings (especially since they rolled out the new "auto mute if someone is an egg avatar/no verified email" options) - just like real life.
I also won't usually get pulled into protracted debates on twitter - the form is just not designed for that. At best it's a very fast moving RSS feed with links/pics and the option to signal boost stuff.
That's about it for me. I won't generally interact with someone unless I knew them offline or through a mutual - again, just like in real life.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Mar 28, 2017 18:20:51 GMT -5
people say its just full of a bunch of celeb worship and pointless nonsense, but where else am I supposed to find out what the singer of Smash Mouth ate for lunch today?
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Mar 28, 2017 18:44:13 GMT -5
There's jerks everywhere but I have no problem with twitter since I don't engage with it and I just follow the people I like. It's a fine way to pass the time.
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Post by dablueboy on Mar 28, 2017 19:07:27 GMT -5
Twitter is a fun when you follow the right accounts, in my case I follow my 2 sports teams (Everton and NY Giants), fan accounts for both, WWE, wrestling podcasts, a few wrestlers and celebs and my mates and family
I've recently rejoined Facebook purely for work purposes as the retailer I work for moved all information about charity days, in store job vacancies and other tidbits that used to go on a paper newsletter into a private FB group. It's also allowed me to keep up to date with family, particularly my baby niece who I don't get to see much as my sister only comes down to the house at weekends when I'm working or if she and my mum go on a shopping day
Instagram is probably my favorite of the 3 main social media apps as I find accounts at random that post old and new wrestling clips which pass a bit of time away, just hate the spam accounts that pop up and like pics of mine, creepily the ones I post either of my niece or film tickets, but I can easily eradicate that by blocking or reporting the accounts
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Post by Raskovnik on Mar 28, 2017 19:33:14 GMT -5
Social media is more of a curse than a blessing, I think. People suck overall, IMO. Giving everyone a platform to suck out loud and find other people who suck just as much as them so they can congregate and get even louder was a mistake. I think it's been ultimately detrimental to our society and culture because the bad people do outweighs the good. It's absolutely insane to me, for example, that it's just accepted that people leave vile comments on YouTube, or Twitter, or Facebook, etc. Like it's as natural as gravity. And maybe that is the case. You have the sum of all human knowledge at your fingertips, you can learn whatever you want and have real power to better yourself through this invention, and so many people just use it to shitpost or harass people they've never even met over things that don't even matter in ways that have very real repercussions. Then the shit from there spills out onto forums like this one and even real life. It's just not worth it to me. I'm sure someone will say "well good thing you aren't in charge, then!" Well, no duh. It also leads to misinformation spreading like wildfire so now we live in this Twilight Zone world where the truth plain doesn't matter, if it ever did, and now we've got a split-screen reality. It wasn't like that before social media came along. Certainly not to this degree. If I could pinpoint the one moment everything went downhill, it's when everyone was able to get a smartphone with Internet access. Yikes. All of this has contributed to me seriously minimizing my Internet time. This is the only forum I visit anymore because the moderating is A+ and if you suck odds are you won't be here very long. Even at that, I still consider deactivating my account every so often because there are flashes of the shit I see everywhere else that drives me crazy as a sober reminder of how thoroughly some BS has infiltrated the public consciousness. The more things progress the less I feel comfortable anywhere. I get it, that's on me, but it doesn't change how I feel. I recognize that I started talking about one thing and it led into another but it's been on my mind for a while. Even if things do eventually get better, I don't see it happening in my lifetime. I can't like this post enough and I think you would be surprised at the amount of people that agree with you. Also to those saying you can filter it down so you only see what you want to see, that presents problems of it's own with the creation of a social media bubble. Well, I appreciate it, brother. It's nice to know I'm not alone. And I think people saying that you can pick and choose what you see and filter everything out so it's no problem...that's exactly what I'm saying is the issue here. We're all making our own bubbles and making that our reality. It sounds nice at first, but I think it's problematic. Once one bubble overlaps with another it's like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters. It feels like your entire world and identity are being attacked as a result because someone else's entire reality isn't lining up with yours. It's like someone is pointing at a red balloon and saying it's clearly green with all the determination of a man who has seen green all his life and knows exactly what it looks like. How can you even argue with that? It's weird, disorienting, and completely unproductive because it cannot go anywhere. It's not merely a difference of opinions, it's entire realities. Also, 140 characters is hell on communication. So much shit gets started over it because it's usually difficult to craft something precise and unambiguous in so few characters, especially for the kinds of conversations people have on there, which just leads to more useless snark and attacks, the two things we absolutely do not need any more of in our culture. It's like scientists were trying to see what amount of characters would lead to as much miscommunication and conflict as possible, and 140 was the golden number. The whole thing makes it even more baffling to me that Twitter somehow wound up being the venue of choice for this stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 20:11:52 GMT -5
The "social media bubble" argument is always one I found perplexing as if customizing an online tool to better suit your use is somehow a bad thing?
I get that it can insulate some people from certain streams of information, but with the sheer volume of it out there NOT having a bubble is a virtual impossibility. Anyone who doesn't think they live in their own social media bubble at this point just doesn't understand the nature of these services.
Twitter isn't the worst. It's actually a very beneficial tool for those who use it more closely to the way it was designed.
Saying twitter is the worst is like saying a hammer is the worst because a bunch of people are trying to cook flapjacks on it.
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Mar 29, 2017 4:52:28 GMT -5
Social media has made me hate people I AGREE with. That's quite a feat. Exactly. I wouldn't go as far as saying that it makes me hate the people I agree with, but more often than not, the things that upset me most come from people I do generally agree with. I just can't stand the attitude they have of 'if you disagree with me on this thing, you're an objectively wrong idiot/thing worse than idiot'. And I follow a few people who fit that category - I agree with most of their views, but occasionally they'll say something I completely disagree with, and they'll attack and put down anyone who doesn't agree with them...either that, or they'll automatically assume that anyone who disagrees with them is their enemy. They don't even take into consideration the fact that despite agreeing with a lot of what they say, I don't agree with 100% of what they say, and therefore they're attacking/putting down people like ME who disagree with them, despite the fact that I generally AGREE with them. It's been driving me mad lately... I can't like this post enough and I think you would be surprised at the amount of people that agree with you. Also to those saying you can filter it down so you only see what you want to see, that presents problems of it's own with the creation of a social media bubble. Well, I appreciate it, brother. It's nice to know I'm not alone. And I think people saying that you can pick and choose what you see and filter everything out so it's no problem...that's exactly what I'm saying is the issue here. We're all making our own bubbles and making that our reality. It sounds nice at first, but I think it's problematic. Once one bubble overlaps with another it's like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters. It feels like your entire world and identity are being attacked as a result because someone else's entire reality isn't lining up with yours. It's like someone is pointing at a red balloon and saying it's clearly green with all the determination of a man who has seen green all his life and knows exactly what it looks like. How can you even argue with that? It's weird, disorienting, and completely unproductive because it cannot go anywhere. It's not merely a difference of opinions, it's entire realities. Also, 140 characters is hell on communication. So much shit gets started over it because it's usually difficult to craft something precise and unambiguous in so few characters, especially for the kinds of conversations people have on there, which just leads to more useless snark and attacks, the two things we absolutely do not need any more of in our culture. It's like scientists were trying to see what amount of characters would lead to as much miscommunication and conflict as possible, and 140 was the golden number. The whole thing makes it even more baffling to me that Twitter somehow wound up being the venue of choice for this stuff. I 100% agree with the part of your post that I bolded.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 29, 2017 10:07:05 GMT -5
The "social media bubble" argument is always one I found perplexing as if customizing an online tool to better suit your use is somehow a bad thing? I get that it can insulate some people from certain streams of information, but with the sheer volume of it out there NOT having a bubble is a virtual impossibility. Anyone who doesn't think they live in their own social media bubble at this point just doesn't understand the nature of these services. Twitter isn't the worst. It's actually a very beneficial tool for those who use it more closely to the way it was designed. Saying twitter is the worst is like saying a hammer is the worst because a bunch of people are trying to cook flapjacks on it. Exactly. I like to stay informed about current affairs as well as my particular interests, so alongside a few news sites I follow, I also have a media platform tailored towards my specific tastes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 10:26:03 GMT -5
The "social media bubble" argument is always one I found perplexing as if customizing an online tool to better suit your use is somehow a bad thing? I get that it can insulate some people from certain streams of information, but with the sheer volume of it out there NOT having a bubble is a virtual impossibility. Anyone who doesn't think they live in their own social media bubble at this point just doesn't understand the nature of these services. Twitter isn't the worst. It's actually a very beneficial tool for those who use it more closely to the way it was designed. Saying twitter is the worst is like saying a hammer is the worst because a bunch of people are trying to cook flapjacks on it. Exactly. I like to stay informed about current affairs as well as my particular interests, so alongside a few news sites I follow, I also have a media platform tailored towards my specific tastes. Along with that, including filters in your timeline actually more closely mimics real-world dynamics. When you're out with your friends they don't info-dump every aspect of their personality 24/7. For example, if you like jazz and anime and have a friend who only likes jazz, then you wouldn't talk anime with them. Whereas on social media you see EVERYTHING they're talking about, which doesn't reflect real world conversations. The problem is that the un-filtered, default social media experience was mistakenly labeled as "reality" or "how things REALLY are," but the off-line world is FILLED with all kinds of filters that we don't think about.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 29, 2017 17:03:21 GMT -5
Twitter isn't the problem in itself. Any site without moderation would be the same. I do find it funny that the CEO, who apparently sees no problem in his company being a breeding site for extremist views and outright abuse is now on the board of directors for the Walt Disney Company. What a shining example of good wholesome family fun.
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Post by ayumidah on Mar 30, 2017 2:13:18 GMT -5
Yeah Twitter is like my go-to for social media, I don't like Facebook much, and Tumblr is just... for when I want to dip a toe into fandom but not really get too deep into the craziness of it all. I keep track of wrestlers, TV shows that I watch, and most of my friends, and it's usually a pretty chill place. I have gotten attacked for various thoughts on fandom I've tweeted over the years, but that's where the block button comes in.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 30, 2017 2:19:17 GMT -5
I never really "got" Twitter. It feels like a service where, unless you're either famous yourself, or REALLY give a shit about the minutia of famous people's lives, it doesn't seem like that utilitarian a service. Just felt like I was screaming into a noisy void most of the time for the brief period I used it. I'm sure that's not the typical experience, but there it is.
Tumblr....I liked Tumblr for a long time, but the slow descent into "holier than thou" territory the site's on started making me hate people whose side I was ON, so I've more or less given up on it.
The less said about Facebook, the better.
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Post by Dean-o on Mar 30, 2017 8:18:53 GMT -5
Twitter and Facebook are both garbage and will absolutely lead to the end of civilization in some way. Of this I am convinced. I miss the days when social media meant sharinf pics of your breakfast with your friends. Now it's an outlet to spew or consume nonstop hate, ignorance, fake news designed to favor 1 political party, and instead of people talking things out, we would rather insult each other and go run off to their safe space where everybody agrees with each other.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Apr 4, 2017 7:57:34 GMT -5
I don't hate Twitter, but recently a lot of things about it has made me a lot more negative than I want to be. Especially over Wrestlemania and Raw this year. Going to try to take a couple days off to see if that helps, and only going on at all to advertise my blog, but other than that, I'd rather stay away.
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