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Post by Nikki Heyman on Apr 6, 2017 21:49:48 GMT -5
HHH had a thing about trying to pull down Justin's pants Saw this happen at a house show - poor Justin was wearing silk boxers that HHH tore giving Justin the "DX Wedgie"
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Apr 6, 2017 22:02:45 GMT -5
What about that one Jerk who once strangled him with his own tie?
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Apr 6, 2017 22:34:46 GMT -5
Was literally going to post this very statement. And not in that "I'm making an SRW joke" way. I get the feeling part of why Jibbles was able to get away with a lot of shit, other than Vince apparently encouraging alpha male bullying bullshit, was because he was close with Taker. With Taker 100% gone, save for his eventual HOF entry, I wonder if anyone will finally shut his shit down...or if it's too late at this point? I fear though it may already be too late to knock this f***er down a peg or 10...
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Post by mattperiolat on Apr 6, 2017 22:36:14 GMT -5
All I can't think, and here my inner mark/hero worship comes out, is where the hell was Taker during all this abuse? Granted, the man was old school as they come and he might understand a bit of ribbing, but after a certain point, you'd imagine someone like him would grab JBL and tell him to knock it off.
Again, it's hero worship and I expect I'd probably be sorely disappointed and my respect for the Dead Man may take a hit if I read this book.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Apr 6, 2017 22:38:01 GMT -5
All I can't think, and here my inner mark/hero worship comes out, is where the hell was Taker during all this abuse? Granted, the man was old school as they come and he might understand a bit of ribbing, but after a certain point, you'd imagine someone like him would grab JBL and tell him to knock it off. Again, it's hero worship and I expect I'd probably be sorely disappointed and my respect for the Dead Man may take a hit if I read this book. By all accounts him & JBL were tight...so, when it comes to friends if there are two sides to a story no matter how hard you try you'll inevitably find yourself subconsciously or otherwise siding with your friend
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Post by mattperiolat on Apr 6, 2017 22:47:12 GMT -5
All I can't think, and here my inner mark/hero worship comes out, is where the hell was Taker during all this abuse? Granted, the man was old school as they come and he might understand a bit of ribbing, but after a certain point, you'd imagine someone like him would grab JBL and tell him to knock it off. Again, it's hero worship and I expect I'd probably be sorely disappointed and my respect for the Dead Man may take a hit if I read this book. By all accounts him & JBL were tight...so, when it comes to friends if there are two sides to a story no matter how hard you try you'll inevitably find yourself subconsciously or otherwise siding with your friend Sad, but true. Even Taker has friends and biases. But man, I don't care how tight you are with someone, based on some of these stories. If Taker is anything like I am and I see a friend treating anyone like JBL treats someone, God have mercy.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Apr 6, 2017 22:51:50 GMT -5
Not to defend him at all, but JBL is one of the last parts of a dying breed. Where road stories were about toughness, hazing, basically trying to overcompensate for being an athletic actor in a business that isn't respected as either athletic or acting. People would be abused and hazed and tortured when they broke into the business and then they'd want to pass that pain onto the newer generation. It was absolute bullshit and it was just people trying to pretend they were carrying the biggest dick even though they were all still dressing up in spandex, pulling punches, and being told to lose cleanly to a guy in a clown suit and his midget clown.
It's yet another reason why I'm so glad kayfabe is dead and trainers are no longer prioritizing 1. Protect the Business 2. Weed Out The Weak 3. Actually train the students. Just seeing Instagram posts of TJ Perkins, Matt Riddle, Samoa Joe, Xavier Woods, Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, etc,... playing video games, hanging out, just looking like people having a good time in their spare time.. it's refreshing. They don't have to protect the business anymore, so you can see heels and faces in a blood feud on TV then watch UpUpDownDown and see those same guys having fun playing Mortal Kombat.
Again, not defending JBL in any way as these bullying tactics are bullshit and they clearly have no stopped due to the Mauro Ranallo situation. But he was from a different time, similar to Bill DeMott... where he felt he had to show how "tough" he was and how "real" the business is, and rather than give the students hard, practical lessons.. he just humiliated and abused them. I mean, put it this way, I don't think anyone likes all their co-workers... but you realize you all have to work together and you need to get along for that time, then once you clock out you can go your separate ways. It's simple shit.
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on Apr 6, 2017 23:06:26 GMT -5
Something alot of people seem to forget for why JBL get's away with shit is the fact that he's a millionaire as well. Wouldn't surprise me if he pays for some of that leeway himself.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 6, 2017 23:22:17 GMT -5
Yes, he did well in the BfA, even though I suspect that had he not got injured, Steve Blackman would have chewed him up and shat him out in the second round. But JBL is definitely a coward. There are plenty of legit tough guys in wrestling history who didn't see the need to bully others. JBL is more of a coward for being backed up by untouchable guys protecting him, and making sure that his victims wouldn't retaliate. He's a 6'6, 300 pound sack of shit. If Joey Styles sucker punched him, he deserved it. Not disputing he's a coward or a bully. And if Dan Severn didn't decide this shit is f***ing stupid he would of won the tournament. But I always get a chuckle of the internet tough guy stuff saying he should of done this and done that and I would of done this and that like if it was that easy. Especially for a sports announcer who is 100lbs lighter and half a foot smaller than JBL working as a sports announcer where there isn't much of a market to do that as a full time job anywhere else. And when he's done what does he do next in the real world and how does the skills of a announcer transfer to this outside of the world job? And even when there was an alternative like WCW they still elected to hire Michael Buffer who isn't cheap. Given the idiotic carnie attitude backstage in WWE, it might have been enough to simply fight the guy. He might get pummelled, but like most bullies, when you stand up to them, they back off.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Apr 6, 2017 23:30:10 GMT -5
JBL is a bad person. Vince McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon are bad people for rewarding him with a paycheck.
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Post by schma on Apr 6, 2017 23:34:53 GMT -5
Why always airports? This crossface incident, at least one of the JBL/Styles, JBL/Blackman fights/KOs (depending on who you believe) happened in an airport, there's the plane ride from hell which surely involved them getting rowdy at the airport before boarding sure there's been a few others even Sags backed down from Shamrock when they bumped into each other at an airport as he believed it was a poor choice of venue for a fight which is probably true with the heightened security atmosphere we've had at airports for the past 16 years you'd think tasers would be out asap as soon as they spot a gaggle of drunken man children trying to compensate for not being able to make it in shoot fighting. I suspect part of it is boredom. They're likely sitting there for hours waiting for their flights and don't seem able to come up with a better way to entertain themselves than bullying people and/or getting hammered.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 6, 2017 23:35:02 GMT -5
f*** that ow...jbl!
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Apr 6, 2017 23:40:57 GMT -5
Yeah, a lot of this crosses over into straight up abuse. If the new generation of wrestlers being "nerds" that play video game and post on social media stops them from turning into sadistic assholes like the old generation, I'm all for it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 23:51:45 GMT -5
Not disputing he's a coward or a bully. And if Dan Severn didn't decide this shit is f***ing stupid he would of won the tournament. But I always get a chuckle of the internet tough guy stuff saying he should of done this and done that and I would of done this and that like if it was that easy. Especially for a sports announcer who is 100lbs lighter and half a foot smaller than JBL working as a sports announcer where there isn't much of a market to do that as a full time job anywhere else. And when he's done what does he do next in the real world and how does the skills of a announcer transfer to this outside of the world job? And even when there was an alternative like WCW they still elected to hire Michael Buffer who isn't cheap. Given the idiotic carnie attitude backstage in WWE, it might have been enough to simply fight the guy. He might get pummelled, but like most bullies, when you stand up to them, they back off. That's a myth and with carnies like that it furthers the myth. It usually makes things worse. The only way it truly stops is you keep fighting and become to much of a hassle, you either get too many friends including strong mutual ones, or someone new comes along. Show one guy up and it becomes an atomic pissing contest because bullies aren't exactly people known for letting go and giving out respect. I can't tell you how many times I have fought someone which means I would have to fight for weeks until one of those three things happened.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 7, 2017 0:27:26 GMT -5
I'm a fan of the JBL character, but John Layfield doesn't sound like someone I would like to meet.
I think that when he started Dick Murdock ribbed him mercilessly but still is no excuse. If he wasn't friends with Vince he would've been fired like 10 years ago. Even as a fan of him I can't deny it.
What happened to padlocking stuff and then coming out with the boltcutters and then laugh? There's hazing and then there's assault and telling someone to commit suicide, give me a f***ing break.
John Layfield is sick, like he wants guys to fight him and beat him up to earn his respect. Bruce Prichard actually said that after Steve Blackman beat him up, Bradshaw was actually happy about it. That's not f***ing normal. It's a publicly traded company!! There's no need to test anybody anymore!!
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 7, 2017 0:28:15 GMT -5
Given the idiotic carnie attitude backstage in WWE, it might have been enough to simply fight the guy. He might get pummelled, but like most bullies, when you stand up to them, they back off. That's a myth and with carnies like that it furthers the myth. It usually makes things worse. The only way it truly stops is you keep fighting and become to much of a hassle, you either get too many friends including strong mutual ones, or someone new comes along. Show one guy up and it becomes an atomic pissing contest because bullies aren't exactly people known for letting go and giving out respect. I can't tell you how many times I have fought someone which means I would have to fight for weeks until one of those three things happened. Then in those circumstances, quitting is the best option. It might be a dream job, but if it comes with all the associated bullshit which can have a severe effect on a person's physical and mental well-being, it's a toxic environment and not worth the trouble.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 7, 2017 0:34:42 GMT -5
JBL came into our bookstore when I worked there and while all of the guys got him to autograph his book, I knew better. I punched him in his face before ringing him up to let him know what's up.
This story may or may not be true: credit: Rajah.com
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 7, 2017 0:43:20 GMT -5
Oh yeah after you stand up to him he becomes your friend. Which is weird.
In Talk Is Jericho, Blue Meanie actually said that JBL tried to get him hired as a host for the wwe network for an ecw show. Bradshaw is truly weird, it's almost like he does stuff like that because he wants people to fight him, in a way he wants to be punished.
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Post by Sparvid on Apr 7, 2017 1:17:24 GMT -5
A two hour delay is nothing given his track record. He got away with punching The Blue Meanie as hard as he could to split open his stitches because Meanie called him a bully in an interview, opening up the WWE to the threat of a lawsuit. He bullied Palmer Cannon so badly that he quit after the WWE creative team had spent months building him up as a major heel figure on Smackdown. He made a point of being an arse to Tully Blanchard when he was hired as a road agent, calling him a drug addict, cheater, liar, and a hypocrite who used God to make money in public because of some 20 year old crap. Major WWE names have gone on record about the sexual harassment 'hazing' he put them through, but there's never been any sort of punishment as he's basically bulletproof, he was a senior lockeroom figure and had vince's ear because he gave him stock tips. Come to think of it, wasn't part of the reason why Mickie James was originally released that she partied so much during an overseas tour that she delayed the buses and inconvenienced everyone else? Personally, I think WWE's non-reaction to Palmer Cannon is the worst. If JBL can get away with being the one direct reason for another employee demanding their own immediate release, then I have trouble imagining any realistic situation where the office would punish him at all.
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Post by FunkerCM on Apr 7, 2017 2:35:14 GMT -5
When you are more famous for stiffing guys and dishing out punishment beatings on behalf of the office, you're a mark and no better than a stooge.
JBL is probably the biggest kiss-ass in the history of the business and that's what will get him in the Hall of Fame someday.
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