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Post by hijuko on Jul 29, 2017 18:05:14 GMT -5
seriously, i don't understand why today we talk so little of this Wrestlemania who is a great Wrestlemania in my opinion.
In this Wrestlemania we have :
A very good Money In The Bank match. The JBL vs Chris Benoit good. A legendary hardcore match between Edge and Mick Foley who is for me one of the greatest match of the history of Westlemania. One of the best divas match of the WWE between Mickie James and Trish Stratus. A Undertaker vs Mark Henry not so bad. A great no hold barred match between Shawn Michaels and Vince McMahon. A very good Triple Threat Match with the victory of Rey Mysterio. And an excellent main event between John Cena and Triple H.
Only Torrie Willson vs Candice Michelle and The Boogeyman vs Booker T and Sharmell was bellow.
Wrestlemania 22 is probably my favorite Mania with the 19 and i don't understand why he is so underrated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 18:11:01 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 22 is probably my favorite Mania with the 19 and i don't understand why he is so underrated. I don't understand what this means.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jul 29, 2017 18:19:09 GMT -5
I think Wrestlemania 22 the last Wrestlemania that felt intimate precisely because it was in a smaller space. Every other Wrestlemania since then has gone for the bigger arena/open dome show, but when the shows don't deliver (27, 29, 31, 32) as much as they could, and as much as they should, you're left with empty spectacle on a broad canvas.
Despite the show's failings, like Triple H being in another main event and John Cena at the height of his annoyance, for example, the smaller feel of the arena made the crowd that much more energized because the cheers and boos didn't escape into the vacuum of the ceiling.
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Post by Chiral on Jul 29, 2017 18:23:31 GMT -5
I enjoyed it, I really loved the 80's esque aesthetic it had. If it had Edge vs. Cena as the main event it would have been so much better though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 19:13:02 GMT -5
Well, they had WM2, which had the NFL/WWF battle royal, not to mention a tag title switch to one of the most influential teams of the time.
WM13 had Bret/Austin, plus the Undertaker winning the WWF title.
22 was very good. It was just...sorta there. Meaning nothing stood out to that degree. But it's a top ten WM easy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 19:14:59 GMT -5
It was okay but I'm not a fan of wrestlemania's that lie to me and this one boasting that it was BIG TIME & also SO MUCH LARGER THAN LIFE for months on end before it even took place was a level of boasting the quite frankly I was uncomfortable with.
My lows: Cena vs HHH while it had a good crowd reaction wasn't a very good match and didn't feel like a mania main event at that time.Edge should have still been champ and in the main event.My official ruling:Deduct 33 points from the show
HBk vs Vince was a waste of HBK.MOR:Deduct 38 points
Benoit vs JBL was a waste of Benoit.MOR:Deduct 18 points
Even at the time I'm not a fan of money in the bank matches.MOR:Deduct 15 point
Total Deductions:71 points
my highs: Edge vs Foley was a great match.MOR:Add 42 points Trish vs Mickie was good and helped Mickie get over with the crowd.MOR:Add 26 point
Total Additions:68
Overall Score:3
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Post by fw91 on Jul 29, 2017 19:51:32 GMT -5
it ended a bit anticlimactically. It was the first mania in a very long time that ended with a title retention.
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Post by fw91 on Jul 29, 2017 19:53:46 GMT -5
I think Wrestlemania 22 the last Wrestlemania that felt intimate precisely because it was in a smaller space. Every other Wrestlemania since then has gone for the bigger arena/open dome show, but when the shows don't deliver (27, 29, 31, 32) as much as they could, and as much as they should, you're left with empty spectacle on a broad canvas. Why don't you think 31 delivered? I thought it was great and exceeded by expectations by leaps and bounds. IMO it was way better than 33.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jul 29, 2017 20:41:57 GMT -5
I think Wrestlemania 22 the last Wrestlemania that felt intimate precisely because it was in a smaller space. Every other Wrestlemania since then has gone for the bigger arena/open dome show, but when the shows don't deliver (27, 29, 31, 32) as much as they could, and as much as they should, you're left with empty spectacle on a broad canvas. Why don't you think 31 delivered? I thought it was great and exceeded by expectations by leaps and bounds. IMO it was way better than 33. A lot of it has to do with the results. Sandow should have gone won the ATGMBR (versus Miz as the last guy in the ring). Wyatt should have beaten the Undertaker, because Wyatt carried the whole feud by himself, whereas the Undertaker didn't even bother to show up on TV once, Sting should have gone over Triple H, the DX and NWO stuff was bad nostalgia wank, Orton vs. Rollins lives on in memory only as a GIF, and the one thing that saves the main event is Rollins' MITB cash-in. 32 isn't that much better, either, I don't think. Ambrose should have beaten Lesnar, the HIAC match did neither guy any favours and the match stipulation was undone in a couple of weeks, WWE trying the Reigns experiment again (ugh), Triple H being in a Wrestlemania main event again (double ugh).
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Jul 29, 2017 23:20:50 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but does if feel like WM 22 is a lot darker/dim than most WrestleManias?
Not mood wise, but lighting wise. Always stood out to me.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Jul 30, 2017 0:20:26 GMT -5
Still pissed I didn't go to this. It was an hour away from me. I remember enjoying the show enough, but I haven't watched it since.
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Post by chronocross on Jul 30, 2017 1:00:18 GMT -5
Eh, I think it's rated just fine, main event was okay, MITB match was the highlight of the night for me. As for the rest of the Mania show, it's rather forgettable, IMO.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 30, 2017 1:46:38 GMT -5
This was my first WrestleMania, so I'm too biased to rate it.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 30, 2017 4:42:55 GMT -5
Best of the 20s.
Edge/Foley, HHH/Cena, WHC, MITB, Mickie/Trish, HBK/Vince. All delivered in different ways. The audience mood in the HHH/Cena match made it feel huge. Even though I HATED Cema retaining at the time, it made the show all that more memorable.
I think it helps that the show took place in a 6 month period where the show was pretty good. NYR 06 to ONS 2 is one of my favorite times in the WWE. The fact that the show dipped below a 4.0 rating one time during that entire time says something...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 9:12:43 GMT -5
Still pissed I didn't go to this. It was an hour away from me. I remember enjoying the show enough, but I haven't watched it since. I was supposed to go, but waited too long. I did convince a co-worker to buy a ticket, so there's that.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Jul 30, 2017 9:27:34 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio's world title win should be remembered more fondly, but the way he was booked in the months preceding WrestleMania and afterward make it tough.
I always thought that Mysterio was popular enough that "Eddiesploitation" shouldn't have seemed like it was necessary by the creative team. Then again the crowds wouldn't stop the "Eddie" chants either. I can understand the sentiment for those first few matches following his death, but ultimately you're not helping Mysterio because it makes it seem like he has to use Eddie's memory to get over, when he didn't.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jul 30, 2017 9:31:40 GMT -5
I went to this show. And even I barely remember it.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jul 30, 2017 9:46:16 GMT -5
It was good. But really just good. I think this was before we were used to feeling let down by Mania.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 30, 2017 9:57:04 GMT -5
The one thing I remember is that there were some top faces that just got crapped on by the crowd at that PPV. Cena is obvious in the main event, which had one of the wildest crowd reactions ever. If I recall Rey also got sorta crapped on during his match as well, but given the booking and storyline it's easy to see why. What I don't get is why they did Angle/Taker at a previous PPV, but Angle at WM was just tossed into the whole awful Orton/Rey crap. If I had to rebook it I'd just have that Angle/Taker match for the title at WM, do Rey/Orton underneath, and Mark Henry could do whatever.
I am in agreement that the time from the Rumble through ONS was a really terrific run for WWE.
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Post by Nosnorb on Jul 30, 2017 10:28:27 GMT -5
I enjoyed it, I really loved the 80's esque aesthetic it had. If it had Edge vs. Cena as the main event it would have been so much better though. Edge should have had the main event, no question. He was RED HOT when he cashed in on John Cena after the Elimination Chamber match and was getting huge reactions, and his ratings were the highest in years. Instead, Triple H got the main event, while Edge had a career shortening match with Mick Foley.
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