mizerable
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by mizerable on Jul 30, 2017 10:40:44 GMT -5
I was there live. The hate that Cena got was insane. I still couldn't believe they had him win, but after that I stopped caring about it because I knew it was inevitable. It was also the last show I paid to see because I knew it was a futile effort to show my support when you have a company who was adamant about not wanting to listen.
Also, it was a surreal Wrestlemania for me. During that time, some of my favorites were gone. Christian went to TNA, Jericho took time off, Batista was injured and Eddie died. So for all the good stuff on this card, it wasn't as organic as the year before.
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Post by mauled on Jul 30, 2017 11:02:29 GMT -5
I enjoyed it, I really loved the 80's esque aesthetic it had. If it had Edge vs. Cena as the main event it would have been so much better though. Edge should have had the main event, no question. He was RED HOT when he cashed in on John Cena after the Elimination Chamber match and was getting huge reactions, and his ratings were the highest in years. Instead, Triple H got the main event, while Edge had a career shortening match with Mick Foley. Trips put himself in the Main Event when he didn't need to be. What's crazy is that if he hadn't got injured, it was going to be him and Cena for WM23 as well 😧🙈
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Fade
Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by Fade on Jul 30, 2017 12:50:05 GMT -5
Probably my least favorite WM since I started watching. (14)
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 30, 2017 17:24:54 GMT -5
The funny thing is that I recall in the Summer of 2005 seeing a house show main event of Cena/HHH and it was soooo boring. This was when HHH wasn't even on TV after Batista beat him. I thought to myself "Look, I know they probably want this as a WM main event but this wasn't any good." It's a case oddly enough where the match ended up being memorable because by 2006 crowds had viciously turned on Cena.
Anyway, knowing that they were going to do Cena/HHH no matter what made me not even care about the Edge MITB situation. I recall forum posts at the time asking when Edge would cash in, what was his direction, to which I would usually respond "There is no direction for Edge as champion. It's going to be HHH/Cena at WM." The question becomes this: What if Edge had retained at the Rumble? Do you still put HHH/Cena on the WM card underneath? Who does Edge face? The only logical Raw foe he would have is a returning Rob Van Dam, who finished 4th in the Rumble and made the finals of the WM tourney. Edge/RVD ended up being a terrific match at Vengeance, but I'm not sure if that's a WM main event.
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Renslayer
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
every time i come around your city...
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Post by Renslayer on Jul 30, 2017 21:54:06 GMT -5
"Big Time" is stuck in my head again. Damn it! Show was fun tho
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Post by CertifiedBA on Jul 30, 2017 23:38:22 GMT -5
I thought it was highly rated. 21 was better, but yea, I thought people liked this one.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 30, 2017 23:41:06 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio's world title win should be remembered more fondly, but the way he was booked in the months preceding WrestleMania and afterward make it tough. I always thought that Mysterio was popular enough that "Eddiesploitation" shouldn't have seemed like it was necessary by the creative team. Then again the crowds wouldn't stop the "Eddie" chants either. I can understand the sentiment for those first few matches following his death, but ultimately you're not helping Mysterio because it makes it seem like he has to use Eddie's memory to get over, when he didn't. I mean Eddie pretty much spent the last year of his life putting over Rey as a bonafide main eventer, he didn't need the addition of doing it for Eddie.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 23:51:42 GMT -5
It had peter Gabriel. Automatically rules.
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The Kevstaaa
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Heck of a wrestler, great technician, and a jam up guy.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 30, 2017 23:53:38 GMT -5
I thought it was a very good WrestleMania. Not quite on the level of 19, 17, 24 or 30 (my top four), but arguably top ten.
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Post by thegame415 on Jul 31, 2017 1:07:07 GMT -5
I agree it's underrated. It was one of the first of what we now know as the smark, "hostile", lively crowds. Summerslam 04 is the earliest I can think of, but 06 has this show, Raw the next night, ONS, the ECW Philly show, ECW in Manhattan, and Unforgiven.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 31, 2017 2:07:28 GMT -5
Awesome show but I just didn't care for the presentation.
HBK actually put a great match out of Vince McMahon lol
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A damn road sign
Samurai Cop
"What the hell am I? A school crossing?"
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Post by A damn road sign on Jul 31, 2017 6:20:51 GMT -5
It always saddens me to think of WrestleMania 22, because this was the show where we almost certainly would've got Eddie Guerrero vs. Shawn Michaels, but... yeah. 😟
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Eunös ✈
Dalek
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Tolerated, just not practically liked.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jul 31, 2017 6:34:18 GMT -5
I must admit I struggle to remember what happened at most Mania beyond WM 21. So much for Wrestlemania Moments
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Post by Chestnutrice on Jul 31, 2017 8:39:36 GMT -5
I know they wanted to do the whole, "Now, Cena is the guy because he beat Haitch" thing, and that Edge vs Foley was great. But, the main event really should've been Cena vs Edge. Cena should've never beaten Edge the PPV following Edge's Cash-in.
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Post by mauled on Jul 31, 2017 12:01:27 GMT -5
I know they wanted to do the whole, "Now, Cena is the guy because he beat Haitch" thing, and that Edge vs Foley was great. But, the main event really should've been Cena vs Edge. Cena should've never beaten Edge the PPV following Edge's Cash-in. Trips has said it was supposed to be him and Cena again for 23. So no I don't think that was the case. It was simply Hunter wanting to Main Event another Wrestlemania again. When he had no earthly business Main Eventing
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Woo
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Woo on Jul 31, 2017 19:34:45 GMT -5
Trish vs Mickie, Edge vs Foley and MITB 2 were all great. I didn't care about the rest.
Still I've only enjoyed Mania XXX more since then.
So yeah it's been a highlight of the lady 11 years with Mania XXVII and XXXI being the absolute lowlights.
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Woo
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Woo on Jul 31, 2017 19:38:05 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio's world title win should be remembered more fondly, but the way he was booked in the months preceding WrestleMania and afterward make it tough. I always thought that Mysterio was popular enough that "Eddiesploitation" shouldn't have seemed like it was necessary by the creative team. Then again the crowds wouldn't stop the "Eddie" chants either. I can understand the sentiment for those first few matches following his death, but ultimately you're not helping Mysterio because it makes it seem like he has to use Eddie's memory to get over, when he didn't. Rey would have become world champion soon anyway, he didn't need this crap. He'd made the last 4 of the rumble the year before and was a legit main eventer already. It was the worst thing that happened to his career.
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Post by Germansuplex on Aug 1, 2017 2:39:21 GMT -5
It was my first Mania after getting back into wrestling, but I didn't like it at the time, mostly because of Cena's win. After re-watching it a few years ago I stand corrected. Mania 22 was loads of fun, with good-to-great matches and a hot crowd.
I still think Angle/Orton/Myterio is one of the most underrated matches in Mania history.
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