Rican
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Rican on Oct 31, 2017 16:15:49 GMT -5
I kinda thought the way the last season House of Cards ended worked as a series finale if they needed it to. The show has been bad for a while now anyway.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Oct 31, 2017 16:20:03 GMT -5
Maybe it's because I'm not a movie fan, but other than hearing his name, I honestly don't know anything about Spacey. This is shady, though. Nah, he's always been a pretty notably private guy, for a celeb.
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Perd
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Post by Perd on Oct 31, 2017 16:20:42 GMT -5
It’s besides the point, but House of Cards needed to end anyway, because it’s terrible.
And this seems to be any that example of an open Hollywood secret. People seemed to know Spqcey was sexually aggressive. And that he may have done it towards a minor is just another awful level.
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FinalGwen
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Post by FinalGwen on Oct 31, 2017 16:22:20 GMT -5
I love when people play the, "I was drunk/high" card to justify behavior. You were still you, you were f***ed up, not body snatched. Someone on Twitter made the point that if drinking apparently makes someone liable to try and have sex with minors, and they still drink at a party with minors present, then it can't be much of a concern/boundary for them. (Also, to everyone upset about what this means for House Of Cards, watch the original version. It's damn good, and watching Ian Richardson won't make you feel as uncomfortable. (Aside from through his character, who's magnetic yet utterly repellant.)
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 31, 2017 17:00:32 GMT -5
I'm surprised we didn't hear the my twitter was hacked line for that sorry ass apology.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Oct 31, 2017 17:07:26 GMT -5
He should've tried to blame Gabriel Byrne. zing!
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 31, 2017 17:11:39 GMT -5
I love when people play the, "I was drunk/high" card to justify behavior. You were still you, you were f***ed up, not body snatched. Someone on Twitter made the point that if drinking apparently makes someone liable to try and have sex with minors, and they still drink at a party with minors present, then it can't be much of a concern/boundary for them. (Also, to everyone upset about what this means for House Of Cards, watch the original version. It's damn good, and watching Ian Richardson won't make you feel as uncomfortable. (Aside from through his character, who's magnetic yet utterly repellant.) To be fair, if there were minors present, it wouldn't be unreasonable to question why there'd be alcohol available, or at the very least, why there'd be enough for a guy to get shitfaced to the point where he's unable to make semi-conscious decisions. Also, I was pretty much of the opinion House of Cards was ending after season 5 went firmly into "What the absolute f***" territory so news of it ending isn't much of a shock to me.
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 3, 2017 23:41:31 GMT -5
linkTurns out Kevin Spacey was fired from House of Cards. I mean, they pretty much had to with the allegations, but considering Frank Underwood was the main hook for watching the show, I don't know where they go from here unless they just cancel it.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Nov 4, 2017 0:04:16 GMT -5
linkTurns out Kevin Spacey was fired from House of Cards. I mean, they pretty much had to with the allegations, but considering Frank Underwood was the main hook for watching the show, I don't know where they go from here unless they just cancel it. As a fan of the show I appreciate the position this puts them in, but I'd like to see an end. Claire is a strong enough character to carry the show through to the end. They've gone far enough that her having Frank killed offscreen at the start of the final season won't seem too hackneyed.
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Post by abjordans on Nov 4, 2017 6:01:03 GMT -5
Ok, so I agree that his coming out was a bad attempt at deflecting. Shit apology. And this was a messed up thing to do.
But, does anyone not find it worrisome that this story comes out, and Kevin Spacey is immediately Public Enemy No. 1? I mean, what if this isn't true? I am not trying to be that guy, it very well could be true, but Anthony Rapp could just as easily be making all this up. I just find it kind of scary how easy someone's life can be ruined these days.
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Post by eJm on Nov 4, 2017 6:09:08 GMT -5
Ok, so I agree that his coming out was a bad attempt at deflecting. Shit apology. And this was a messed up thing to do. But, does anyone not find it worrisome that this story comes out, and Kevin Spacey is immediately Public Enemy No. 1? I mean, what if this isn't true? I am not trying to be that guy, it very well could be true, but Anthony Rapp could just as easily be making all this up. I just find it kind of scary how easy someone's life can be ruined these days. The thing with all this, ignoring that this line of thinking being the first thought being why people don't come out, is what would Rapp gain from making it up? It's not like he's hard for work, he's on a new Star Trek show after all, and probably won't be dying for work after he either leaves the show or the show ends (which considering it got renewed for another season isn't anytime soon), there's nothing he'd gain except finally getting the courage to tell his story, one that's affected him for years after it happened. And considering that there were allegedly 8 people on the set of House of Cards who are also coming out about inappropriate behaviour and the Old Vic, a theatre in London that he was well established with for many years, are doing their own investigation, this can't be seen as an isolated case anymore. If anything, Rapp isn't even the tip of the iceberg potentially.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 4, 2017 7:15:42 GMT -5
But, does anyone not find it worrisome that this story comes out, and Kevin Spacey is immediately Public Enemy No. 1? I mean, what if this isn't true? I am not trying to be that guy, it very well could be true, but Anthony Rapp could just as easily be making all this up. I just find it kind of scary how easy someone's life can be ruined these days. There will always be those who immediately believe any accusation, but in this case is was a combination of the accusation, the incident involving a child, Spacey essentially saying "Yeah, it probably happened, but I was drunk, sorry", him immediately trying to deflect by coming out of the closet, and then others also making accusations. It Spacey denies it and nobody else comes forward, fewer people are jumping on his back over it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 4, 2017 11:17:33 GMT -5
If this was just the one guy, and Spacey hadn't kinda shrugged it off, and if it wasn't apparently close enough to reality for many people to go: "Yeah, that fits.", there might be a baseless thing.
But hell, just given his whole nonchalance, something similar has taken place some time one would assume.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 4, 2017 11:54:27 GMT -5
Kevin better get a rocket ship to Spacey at this point.
And I wonder if we're finally past the 'yeah, you're a degenerate but you can help me win an Oscar so I'll defend you' like people did with Allen and Polanski.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Nov 4, 2017 12:51:15 GMT -5
People in Hollywood must be sweating bullets right now wondering if they're "next". Especially ones already clouted in rumors...Harrelson and Leto just to name two.
Also, Spaceys upcoming flick "All the Money in The World". Oh man. That's gonna be a fun promotional tour.
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 4, 2017 16:14:37 GMT -5
Ok, so I agree that his coming out was a bad attempt at deflecting. Shit apology. And this was a messed up thing to do. But, does anyone not find it worrisome that this story comes out, and Kevin Spacey is immediately Public Enemy No. 1? I mean, what if this isn't true? I am not trying to be that guy, it very well could be true, but Anthony Rapp could just as easily be making all this up. I just find it kind of scary how easy someone's life can be ruined these days. Except Spacey basically said yeah it probably happened, but I was drunk. Also I'm gay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 17:01:07 GMT -5
Ok, so I agree that his coming out was a bad attempt at deflecting. Shit apology. And this was a messed up thing to do. But, does anyone not find it worrisome that this story comes out, and Kevin Spacey is immediately Public Enemy No. 1? I mean, what if this isn't true? I am not trying to be that guy, it very well could be true, but Anthony Rapp could just as easily be making all this up. I just find it kind of scary how easy someone's life can be ruined these days. Except Spacey basically said yeah it probably happened, but I was drunk. Also I'm gay. On top of that - the whole "life can be ruined..." thing seems to ring kind of false. Has any celebs life been ruined really by someone making false allegations? Nelly's accuser apparently dropped the case and he's still booked out through the Nov with dates in Jan 18. His career is fine. I think people underestimate the speed of the news cycle.
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Post by Topher is Human on Nov 4, 2017 22:14:22 GMT -5
Man, with Netflix firing him his career has come crashing down like a... umm, I can’t think of a good metaphor but you get the idea.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 2:59:53 GMT -5
You know I’ve always been a big fan of Kevin’s work (his movies and his spot-on impressions), but f*** him if all of this is true. I had always planned on watching House of Cards, but I couldn’t stomach it at this point. I hope everyone that he hurt can find peace and justice.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 5, 2017 10:39:31 GMT -5
Who would have thought that being the lead in that talkin cat movie would now be the highlight of Spacey's last year?
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