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Post by Talent Name on Nov 7, 2017 14:49:54 GMT -5
Okay so my knowledge of the lore has gaps missing but my point is do the superheros have their origin stories known cause if not again how can you tell? Depends on the character really take someone like the Punisher who is antihero but the public does know his origin story and what happened to him.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Nov 7, 2017 15:47:31 GMT -5
Let’s not forget,
Super heroes often wear masks and colorful costumes (like a uniform) or they let people know their real identities and the public has some idea where they came from.
Mutants just looks like regular dudes with freakish powers.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 7, 2017 15:55:29 GMT -5
With mutants there's a good chance of your daughter bringing one home and telling you they are getting engaged.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 7, 2017 16:54:02 GMT -5
Mutant-detecting technology exists, hence Sentinels, but that doesn't explain how everyone knows it. Though I guess if you're in the X-Men or Brotherhood, that kinda makes it obvious.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Nov 7, 2017 17:55:48 GMT -5
It was either Roy Thomas,more than likely,or Stan Lee in some 80s comics fanzine interview that said "Prof X is Martin Luther King,Magneto is Malcolm X." And it really shows that at least pre-Giant Sized #1 revamp team, that the X men and mutants were a Silver Age way of doing comics about the civil rights movement.
Odd question,anyone know if the Essential collections of the Silver Age X Men still havd the times Prof X would mention how attracted he was to Marvel Girl? Thought I read somewhere that newer reprints of those issues had some small dialogue changes.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Nov 7, 2017 19:14:59 GMT -5
My theory is that superheroes gained their powers through accidents or failed experiments, so the greater public is more sympathetic to their situation.
Whereas mutants gained their power through evolution naturally, and humans are fearful of being rendered obsolete so they're afraid of what they could become in the future.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Nov 7, 2017 19:15:25 GMT -5
I think one thing is the X-Men for example aren't really super-heroes like the others. They usually are just reacting to whatever evil mutants are plotting or reacting to the government trying to keep them down. They're not out stopping bank robberies.
Also I want to say that realistically there would be a large portion of the population that would believe the non-mutant characters really are mutants and it's a cover up.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Nov 7, 2017 23:24:39 GMT -5
Most of it has already been covered.
Just another way of looking at it...
Superheroes were like gods and elite and such. Actual heroes. And besides, even then they were blamed all the time and hated at times by misinformed general public. But yeah, there was a mythological exoticism to some non-mutant heroes. You wanted to be them. XMen stories evolved into this thing where some of them didn’t even know if they wanted to be themselves. Set it up on a tee to be viewed as the freaks of the Marvel Universe.
But anyway, XMen or mutants kinda seemed like they could be bad guys, portrayed as alternative and not “for all humanity” types of heroes. I mean, part of it was in their look. A guy who shreds people. A demon-looking Nightcrawler. And the teens and 20-somethings with powers that hung around with them. Just in general, the alternative feel. Therefore, what are their intentions? A mutant wouldn’t stereotypically wear a badge. Cap and Thor and Fantastic Four might as well have been wearing a white hat and badge. So what’s the deal with mutants? Seems a natural paranoid storyline to me.
What I always kinda thought happened with XMen was that they became anti-heroic to some extent. “I’m alternative, isnt that great?” Superheroes are like Tom Jones and Barry Manilow and Sinatra and XMen are the Marilyn Mansons and Slayers of the superhero gang.
All of the above is ultra simplified and not designed to be entirely accurate. More of a cut to the chase approach to breaking it down. But I find it very easy to suspend disbelief and follow the XMen fear approach as opposed to guys wearing red, white, and blue or spouting off phrases that totally show they’re out for the good of humanity.
And I also appreciate that others have called out the fact that 90s/00s tv/media revisionist XMen aren’t actually entirely the “true XMen”’story and historical plight. Emos and punks and such needed someone to get behind, and mutants kinda evolved more into that “hero for the bullied or oppressed.” Thor wouldn’t put up with that crap. Hammer to someone’s dome. XMen evolved into that victimized hero kinda thing.
Inasmuch as one can’t see what the difference is, I’m one who says, “how can you *not* see they’re different?”
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