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Post by salz4life on Mar 22, 2022 10:20:58 GMT -5
According to multiple people who've seen the movie... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}All references to Spider-Man have been cut.
Both the scenes from the trailers in which Michael Keaton appeared have been cut.
Keaton only appears in a post-credit scene and it's not clear if he's playing Vulture or another character. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Seems like Sony lost faith in this and is "New Mutants'ing" this.
Edit: The other reasons mentioned could also be it as well.
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Post by chrom on Mar 22, 2022 14:06:01 GMT -5
Pretty certain this is gonna kill Sony's attempts at a Spiderverse
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Post by Fade on Mar 22, 2022 14:12:31 GMT -5
According to multiple people who've seen the movie... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}All references to Spider-Man have been cut.
Both the scenes from the trailers in which Michael Keaton appeared have been cut.
Keaton only appears in a post-credit scene and it's not clear if he's playing Vulture or another character. Pretty certain this is gonna kill Sony's attempts at a Spiderverse Stan Lee himself could come back from the dead, request it, and Sony would plow on. They’ve been insistent what? More than a decade??
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2022 14:48:11 GMT -5
Yeah... no.
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Post by chrom on Mar 22, 2022 14:51:39 GMT -5
Siberia has a better chance of becoming a summer paradise than that happening
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2022 15:12:44 GMT -5
Siberia has a better chance of becoming a summer paradise than that happening I mean, parts of Siberia outside the arctic circle are summer paradises...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2022 15:29:54 GMT -5
According to multiple people who've seen the movie... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}All references to Spider-Man have been cut.
Both the scenes from the trailers in which Michael Keaton appeared have been cut.
Keaton only appears in a post-credit scene and it's not clear if he's playing Vulture or another character. Those things were my only interest in it.
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Post by City Duck on Mar 22, 2022 16:52:04 GMT -5
Morbius Orbius drinking a 40 in the death basket
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Post by burdette25159 on Mar 22, 2022 17:34:26 GMT -5
According to multiple people who've seen the movie... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}All references to Spider-Man have been cut.
Both the scenes from the trailers in which Michael Keaton appeared have been cut.
Keaton only appears in a post-credit scene and it's not clear if he's playing Vulture or another character. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Seems like Sony lost faith in this and is "New Mutants'ing" this.
Edit: The other reasons mentioned could also be it as well. No wonder its being released on Final Four/Wrestlemania weekend awaiting to be executed at the box office by the tag team of The Batman and a Sing Along reissue of Sing 2
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2022 18:39:42 GMT -5
Always an encouraging sign.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 22, 2022 18:44:04 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but I remember tons of negative buzz for Venom beforehand, especially after the "turd in the wind" trailer.
Then everyone lined up opening day anyways.
Morbius is certainly no Venom, but I've given up trying to predict these things.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2022 18:53:18 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but I remember tons of negative buzz for Venom beforehand, especially after the "turd in the wind" trailer. Then everyone lined up opening day anyways. Morbius is certainly no Venom, but I've given up trying to predict these things. Probably the only thing this has going for it is it's been made relatively cheaply – $75 million compared to Venom's $115 million. They've also spent very little on marketing, so it's break-even point is somewhere in the region of $175 million, which isn't unreasonable to think it could do, though New Mutants-level numbers are just as likely.
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Post by chrom on Mar 22, 2022 18:55:57 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but I remember tons of negative buzz for Venom beforehand, especially after the "turd in the wind" trailer. Then everyone lined up opening day anyways. Morbius is certainly no Venom, but I've given up trying to predict these things. Venom's always had his fans, Morbius ain't even a cult favorite amongst comic fans
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Post by Fade on Mar 22, 2022 19:12:08 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but I remember tons of negative buzz for Venom beforehand, especially after the "turd in the wind" trailer. Then everyone lined up opening day anyways. Morbius is certainly no Venom, but I've given up trying to predict these things. Venom's always had his fans, Morbius ain't even a cult favorite amongst comic fans Right. Which makes this hinge mainly on Leto and “it’s a ‘Marvel movie’!” to draw.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2022 19:32:15 GMT -5
Right. Which makes this hinge mainly on Leto and “it’s a ‘Marvel movie’!” to draw. And audiences, as we've seen with the likes of Dark Phoenix, New Mutants, and FANT4STIC, won't flock to a movie just because it has the Marvel logo on it, while Leto simply isn't a draw as an actor. 30 Seconds to Mars can and do sell out arenas and stadiums with ease, but the people who will happily pay to hear his music generally don't want to watch him act.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2022 19:32:53 GMT -5
... wait are people trying to say Venom was good. It was so bad. People seeing a film in droves is not a guaranteed sign of quality (or lack of quality).
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Post by chrom on Mar 22, 2022 19:48:57 GMT -5
There are a lot of crappy movies that were box office success
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 22, 2022 19:51:58 GMT -5
Right. Which makes this hinge mainly on Leto and “it’s a ‘Marvel movie’!” to draw. And audiences, as we've seen with the likes of Dark Phoenix, New Mutants, and FANT4STIC, won't flock to a movie just because it has the Marvel logo on it, while Leto simply isn't a draw as an actor. 30 Seconds to Mars can and do sell out arenas and stadiums with ease, but the people who will happily pay to hear his music generally don't want to watch him act. Kings and Queens is still a bop. And Leto can turn himself into different characters convincingly, but he never “steals” a movie for me, if that makes sense. He’s good at weird side personas, he doesn’t ever feel like a lead.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2022 20:01:08 GMT -5
And audiences, as we've seen with the likes of Dark Phoenix, New Mutants, and FANT4STIC, won't flock to a movie just because it has the Marvel logo on it, while Leto simply isn't a draw as an actor. 30 Seconds to Mars can and do sell out arenas and stadiums with ease, but the people who will happily pay to hear his music generally don't want to watch him act. Kings and Queens is still a bop. And Leto can turn himself into different characters convincingly, but he never “steals” a movie for me, if that makes sense. He’s good at weird side personas, he doesn’t ever feel like a lead. Hand on my heart, I unabashedly love the first three 30STM albums, and have seen them live several times. Hell, even the couple of times I've met Leto himself he seems a lot nicer and more normal than his reputation suggests. But you're absolutely right. He's a character actor, not a lead. A good character actor who, when motivated and kept focused by a strong director, generally turns in good-to-great performances, but that still doesn't make him a good lead.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 22, 2022 21:12:21 GMT -5
As someone who loved both Venom movies, making them fun popcorn flicks was absolutely the right call.
Morbius looks like what happens if they didn't make Venom a fun popcorn flick.
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