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Post by Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X on Nov 23, 2017 19:03:08 GMT -5
Flash has one major flaw going for it right now that unfortunately wont apparently get any better post-crossover and that is the heavy emphasis on Iris.
It feels like Barry is secondary to his own show and alot of the emphasis is on her....it did not really bother me at first when she said WE are the flash but now I am starting to think the writers might be serious with their words on that one.
Arrow is taking an interesting but not yet fulfiling direction in that they are trying to develop everyone else on team Arrow...but the suppose big bad of the season may as well be invisible since Black Siren is being treated as the real threat.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Nov 23, 2017 19:41:33 GMT -5
Flash has one major flaw going for it right now that unfortunately wont apparently get any better post-crossover and that is the heavy emphasis on Iris. It feels like Barry is secondary to his own show and alot of the emphasis is on her....it did not really bother me at first when she said WE are the flash but now I am starting to think the writers might be serious with their words on that one. Arrow is taking an interesting but not yet fulfiling direction in that they are trying to develop everyone else on team Arrow...but the suppose big bad of the season may as well be invisible since Black Siren is being treated as the real threat. See I like Iris a lot but I wish they would establish a world outside Team Flash imo. Like during her Bachelorette party it just felt weird she had no other female friends outside of the people who are either family or, like Caitlin, someone who she's barely had dialog with. Plus I'd really like to see more of her reporting just to establish she has interests and desires not tied to her fiance. Like they want her to be a strong female character but her entire character revolves around Barry.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Nov 23, 2017 20:38:52 GMT -5
I never miss Gotham, Arrow I watch most of the time but not always, used to watch Flash all the time but can't be bothered anymore for some reason and I've never watched Supergirl or Legends
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 23, 2017 22:50:13 GMT -5
Yes? Why that would be somehow surprising is beyond me. Because when it came out everyone was crapping all over it. The key part of that is "when it came out." Gotham got the same rap as Agents of SHIELD. Very lukewarm first half of the first season drove away a lot of people, who continue to vocally dog on it for its early flaws despite the show evolving into something vastly different and superior. Critical response from both comic book-friendly critics and non-CB critics has been almost universally positive since the second season. Out of all the comic book TV shows, I actually feel Gotham and AOS are the most underrated. There's more bad Arrow than good, and Flash feels like it has lost its way. Supergirl is pretty consistent, though.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 23, 2017 23:37:18 GMT -5
I guess the whole concept of Gotham turned me off a bit. Young Jim Gordon is a cool concept and could work, but then throw all the villains in there? Eh. If it got better then cool.
However, I will say I don't get the whole Jerome/Joker love at all If anything, I'm really glad they didn't go full Joker with him. I kept hearing how great he was and all, and then I watched this:
That starts out ok, and then just gets embarrassing.
It's just so bad. Like if it was a random Youtube guy doin a bit of an impression or a take, it'd be fine; a lil goofy, but fine. But to put that on your show as a real menace, and people legitimately goin: "Oooh, that's great."
Really?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 23, 2017 23:43:17 GMT -5
Unless Gotham got a whole lot better in the last couple years, the love surprises me too. The few episodes I've seen have just been awful. I watched it a few times and found it to be one of the dumbest shows I've ever seen... and a waste of a decent premise. Not to mention it has one of me most hated tropes the "We all went to high school together!" thing with all of Batman's villains showing up before Batman was a thing. If you wanted to do a Police procedural in Gotham and use the classic villains... just do Gotham Central.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 23, 2017 23:58:23 GMT -5
The trick with Gotham is you're either down with the insanity or you're not. The original premise was a straight police procedural, Gordon and Bullock taking on the Z-list members of the rogues gallery, before realising that it wasn't drawing and embracing the crazy.
In the Gotham thread I described the show as constantly lurching from being great to stupid and back again like a shameless drunk midway through a bender, and I stand by that. It's not for everybody, but the cast, acting, cinematography and production values are top notch, so even at its hammiest it's still entertaining as hell.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 24, 2017 0:17:18 GMT -5
I'd say yes, it's just so much damn fun. Yep. After a shaky S1 it's become a fine sit-com. Some of the jokes even come at S1s expense. The George Lucas and ET episodes were both hilarious. Gumball! You know that Gumball is going to show up later in the season for a Big Damn Heroes moment.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 24, 2017 0:18:36 GMT -5
Eh, Agents of SHIELD was wildly inconsistent season-to-season. The first season got incredible once the events in Cap 2 happened during the season's run along with Ward being revealed as a traitor to Team Coulson. I also adore Clark Gregg. But the show hit Season 2 and got awful again. And then good again only to get awful once more.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 21:23:49 GMT -5
Happy Beebo Day!
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 6, 2017 1:12:55 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on Dec 6, 2017 1:46:14 GMT -5
I hate puppets.
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Post by the2ndevil on Dec 6, 2017 3:00:33 GMT -5
Gotham this season is making me seriously wonder how Professor Pyg hasn’t been used as a villain in a Batman movie, yet.
Batman is a Detective. Doing a hunt for a serial killer plot works impressively well.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Dec 6, 2017 19:45:14 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X on Dec 6, 2017 20:00:28 GMT -5
So many have been concerned with zombies for years when the true terror has been watching all along HAPPY BEEBO DAY!.
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Post by lovingway on Dec 7, 2017 7:02:15 GMT -5
I have binge watched all the shows on Netflix up until this season and considered Flash the worst with Legends/Supergirl tying for second. Now that I have been watching them consistently as they are debuting here are my thoughts.
Arrow-improved over season 3/4 with the only dull thing being the expected (they all lived even though the island blew up) bit. Supergirl-As others said, this show is fairly consistent. Not overly excited by anything this season but nothing horrible Flash-Definite improvement not having a speedster villain this year Legends-I honestly felt like this was one of my fave shows but this season has sucked. It might be a better binge watching show than weekly show but the whole Beebo thing was brutal
And Gotham has definitely improved this season although I really hate that the Riddler is a bit character now
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 7, 2017 16:26:36 GMT -5
Unless Gotham got a whole lot better in the last couple years, the love surprises me too. The few episodes I've seen have just been awful. It got a lot better once they figured out their show was campy as f*** and they should just embrace it. I'd call it what Joel Schumacher was going for if he did it right. I find the idea that it's a better show than Flash (even the lame 3rd season) to be kinda risible though.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 7, 2017 16:30:27 GMT -5
Gotham this season is making me seriously wonder how Professor Pyg hasn’t been used as a villain in a Batman movie, yet. Batman is a Detective. Doing a hunt for a serial killer plot works impressively well. Probably because every last one of Batman's villains can be classified as a serial killer.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Dec 7, 2017 18:29:57 GMT -5
I gotta say this past episode was a gut punch many times. This show really can balance humor and drama really well. Hoping John ends up staying longer than what was reported originally.
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Post by Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X on Dec 7, 2017 19:15:17 GMT -5
Legends really need a top tier powerhouse because they are losing members left and right and for what they are up against they would surely be killed.
I fully expect Wally by the end of the season but that is just what everyone is calling on right now since he is the obvious addition that really is not used on The Flash and doesn't fit on any of the other shows.
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