(Vinyl) record albums

[willywonka666]

Yea it’s kind of annoying for those of us that were around the first time around-we never said “vinyl” really, but I digress

Anyway, I’ve been collecting most of my life really, but I wonder who they are aiming this new breed of records at?

If you know anything about records, you’d know that the original versions for the most part are cheaper in many instances, and there’s an app that’ll help you.

To pay 20 or 30 bucks for a Madonna record is crazy, when you can get the original for 5 dollars.

Of course that’s minus the “remastered from the original recordings” stuff, and I’ve read in some instances there is a difference, but not everyone’s ears hear the same things

As a person who loves records, I’m doubtful about them opening new plants because unless they think kids with disposable income really want to buy a Devo record, I don’t think the plants will be around for long

Yet there will always be someone making records, and I’d bet a lot of the consumers buying these don’t realize that they never stopped

Didn’t mean to sound snobbish there, just talking from experience

Thoughts?

[Ultimo Gallos]

I don't get it either. But like you I grew up with records,and 8 tracks. Thanks to having a few friends that DJed thru the 90s I knew records were still being made. Back in 2007 got rid of most of my records. Was shocked at the prices I was getting for albums that just 10 years before were selling for 5 to 10 bucks.

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

It's aimed at audiophiles. And it is noticeable by a great deal.

[jagilki]

I'd like to get a record player. Then I can grab my Mom's record collection (she hasn't wanted it for quite a while)

If I remember right, she had hundreds and hundreds.

[Ultimo Gallos]

My issue with records is it is rare I like every song on an album. With cassettes it was easy to fast forward thru the songs I didn't like. With CDs I can just skip to the next track.

While I know records sound better most of the time. My hearing is damaged enough that I can't really tell the difference between a record or a CD.

[Ron Woodsman aka Shempaholic]

I’ll take a cheap original pressing (in good condition) of a vinyl record over a new one any day. The bad thing about new vinyl is that there are very few pressing plants and they are all overworked. Quality control is not good. If you buy a new record there is a very good chance it will be at least a little warped. Generally it’s not enough to cause problems if you have a decent turntable, but still. I’ve seen fingerprints on brand new vinyl too.

[bibboid]

My Christmas list this year is basically a new stylus for my turntable and an album from a band called Cheater Jones. They were popular in central New Jersey in the mid 80's and you can only get their album on vinyl.

[Milkman Norm]

30something audiophiles.

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

For me, it's often easier to find the stuff that I want in the newer pressings.

Example #1 - Tom Waits. I can walk into practically any of the local record stores and find brand new 180 gram pressings of several of his records. I have one original Waits album, and it has damage to the inside of the jacket. It may have been $5 to $10 cheaper.

Example #2 - the Misfits. I love the band, have since I heard them as a teenager. But I can either pay $20 or $25 for a new pressing or a couple hundred to a couple thousand for an original.

In the record game, there is no perfect answer. Just a wonderful, wallet draining disease.

[ShaolinHandLock]

I started collecting vinyl last year, by accident. Basically, there were some black metal albums I wanted that are vinyl only releases...next thing I know, I'm buying most of my music on vinyl now.

As for the discussion of price/pressings, it seems to be the exact opposite of how people are describing it when it comes to the music I like. When it comes to original pressings of rap and metal records, they go for ridiculous prices, where the represses (IF they repress them that is) are WAY cheaper. Besides, both the original and repress versions of a lot of the stuff I listen to are limited pressings anyway.

Also, I never got into it because of the so-called "vinyl revival"...I had no idea such a thing was happening when I started buying them.

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

Nov 27, 2017 0:35:10 GMT -5 ShaolinHandLock said:

I started collecting vinyl last year, by accident. Basically, there were some black metal albums I wanted that are vinyl only releases...next thing I know, I'm buying most of my music on vinyl now.

As for the discussion of price/pressings, it seems to be the exact opposite of how people are describing it when it comes to the music I like. When it comes to original pressings of rap and metal records, they go for ridiculous prices, where the represses (IF they repress them that is) are WAY cheaper. Besides, both the original and repress versions of a lot of the stuff I listen to are limited pressings anyway.

Also, I never got into it because of the so-called "vinyl revival"...I had no idea such a thing was happening when I started buying them.

Another great point. I never got back into vinyl. When I was a kid, there were always records around because of my parents, aunts, uncles, etc. I never stopped getting more when I could.

The revival just made it easier.

[adamclark52]

It's aimed at elitists. I personally don't get it. I buy music to listen to the music. I haven't seen a turntable in twenty years. Most of my "tr00 kvlt" metal friends buy them just to be cooler than one another. Most of them don't own a turntable.

the cassette revival is even stupider.

I'm just going to keep buying CDs and in ten years it'll have come around.

[ShaolinHandLock]

Nov 27, 2017 1:03:54 GMT -5 adamclark52 said:

It's aimed at elitists. I personally don't get it. I buy music to listen to the music. I haven't seen a turntable in twenty years. Most of my "tr00 kvlt" metal friends buy them just to be cooler than one another. Most of them don't own a turntable.

the cassette revival is even stupider.

I'm just going to keep buying CDs and in ten years it'll have come around.

Okay, first of all I completely disagree with the notion that it's "aimed at elitists". I like vinyl, but I'm not "elitist" about it at all.

Secondly, I don't understand what you mean with the statement "I buy music to listen to the music"? I buy music to listen to the music, and some of that is on vinyl, so I seriously don't understand what you mean.

And finally, the cassette revival makes perfect sense when you realise that for a lot of independant artists who want to release music on a physical format, cassettes are the cheapest option. I've bought a few cassettes THIS YEAR, simply because they were dirt cheap.

[Magnus the Magnificent]

If I buy LPs, it's from a collector's point-of-view mainly, limited to a select few artists, and it's very rare that I actually play them.
It's nice to have a big artwork to look at, and sometimes there's cool extras like a fold-out cover.

[Deleted]

I recently got this, but it's more out of love for animation and my compulsive collecting.

I also had Bruce Willis Album few years back, but i threw it away along my other lps.

[Deleted]

I started getting vinyls last year. I was looking at some of my friend's albums and really loved the inserts and the records played very clear. It's perfect for when I'm watching game film or doing stats during basketball season. Not too loud and beautifully smooth background noise.

[King Boo]

Nov 27, 2017 2:30:11 GMT -5 ShaolinHandLock said:

Nov 27, 2017 1:03:54 GMT -5 adamclark52 said:

It's aimed at elitists. I personally don't get it. I buy music to listen to the music. I haven't seen a turntable in twenty years. Most of my "tr00 kvlt" metal friends buy them just to be cooler than one another. Most of them don't own a turntable.

the cassette revival is even stupider.

I'm just going to keep buying CDs and in ten years it'll have come around.

Okay, first of all I completely disagree with the notion that it's "aimed at elitists". I like vinyl, but I'm not "elitist" about it at all.

Secondly, I don't understand what you mean with the statement "I buy music to listen to the music"? I buy music to listen to the music, and some of that is on vinyl, so I seriously don't understand what you mean.

And finally, the cassette revival makes perfect sense when you realise that for a lot of independant artists who want to release music on a physical format, cassettes are the cheapest option. I've bought a few cassettes THIS YEAR, simply because they were dirt cheap.

It's not what he means (I'm guessing he's talking about buying vinyl to say you do because it's the "thing" to do), but I know that album art is part of the whole "vinyl experience". Art that catches the eye and gets a message across on a small screen is a different animal than on a record sleeve.

[Vampiro138]

I grew up on my moms vinyl records, so I have a small collection that I listen to, and now I have an obsession with wanting to own every original Beatles vinyl I can get, my aunt moved to london and decided I should get her Beatles collection and it started from there, Im only missing Please Please Me, Beatles For Sale, Revolver and Let It Be. I also have all the original Chicago records with Terry Kath on it which is kinda cool to me, I also have a vinyl copy of KISS: Alive! that so far Ive gotten signed by Gene, Ace and Peter. I actually do listen to these records, I dont just have them, they get played quite a bit, I enjoy throwing on a record and doing stuff around the house. no audio reasons, just like the feel of putting it on and letting the record play out.

[ShaolinHandLock]

Nov 27, 2017 19:02:05 GMT -5 King Boo said:

Nov 27, 2017 2:30:11 GMT -5 ShaolinHandLock said:

Okay, first of all I completely disagree with the notion that it's "aimed at elitists". I like vinyl, but I'm not "elitist" about it at all.

Secondly, I don't understand what you mean with the statement "I buy music to listen to the music"? I buy music to listen to the music, and some of that is on vinyl, so I seriously don't understand what you mean.

And finally, the cassette revival makes perfect sense when you realise that for a lot of independant artists who want to release music on a physical format, cassettes are the cheapest option. I've bought a few cassettes THIS YEAR, simply because they were dirt cheap.

It's not what he means (I'm guessing he's talking about buying vinyl to say you do because it's the "thing" to do), but I know that album art is part of the whole "vinyl experience". Art that catches the eye and gets a message across on a small screen is a different animal than on a record sleeve.

Well yeah, album art is definitely nicer to look at on a vinyl sleeve than a CD or cassette cover, so I get that.

I don't get these supposed people who buy vinyl just to say that they buy vinyl though...I mean, I buy vinyl and this thread is the first time I've ever talked about it.

[wankah]

I started collecting at 13 and never looked back. Though it helped that I was heavy into punkrock as a kid, and it was one of the few communities where vinyl was always present, even before the revival happened. Think I got about 900 records in my collection now, if all the 7" & 10" are included.

Anyway, the vinyl revival happening made the whole thing easy. You could basically spend the whole day shopping for records. I remember heading to west London first to get some 60's rarities from Minus Zero and continuing to Rough Trade shop for the new stuff, and then go up north to Camden for the weird experimental jazz and stuff such alike.

Also with my own recordings the vinyl was always the easy way to break even. As long as you played gigs and had records to sell with you, you'd have them sold by end of the night. On the other hand the CD was a f***ing drag to sell.