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Post by The Spelunker! on Dec 5, 2017 11:03:25 GMT -5
So apparently they're gonna be a 3 man committee with Nordholm running Impact with callis continuing to do New Japan commentary.
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Post by Brother-RD on Dec 5, 2017 11:34:12 GMT -5
This is....actually not a bad move.
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Post by siredger on Dec 5, 2017 12:34:56 GMT -5
Indeed. Maybe Callis can help things turn around.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 5, 2017 12:37:54 GMT -5
I think the next Killing the Town will be a must listen.
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Post by . on Dec 5, 2017 14:54:25 GMT -5
Indeed. Maybe Callis can help things turn around. Wouldn't this be the equivalent of trying to turn around the Hindenburg last Tuesday?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 16:01:22 GMT -5
D'Amore should absolutely be involved.
Aside from being friends with a lot of guys and having commentary and podcast gigs now, what are Don Callis' credentials for being VP of a company? Dude has put a lot of noses out of joint by, well, being a jerk and unprofessional over the years. He's not known as a great booker, creative mind or agent. He's not trained loads of guys or been involved in running a successful company.
It feels like "Let's pickup someone famous, currently popular and Canadian. Oh and he might get us back in with New Japan too". Just a hunch, but feels like a really, REALLY bad decision to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 16:18:57 GMT -5
I’ve got good money on three more creative/executive changes before Jeff Jarrett gets his job back.
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Post by eJm on Dec 5, 2017 16:19:01 GMT -5
D'Amore should absolutely be involved. Aside from being friends with a lot of guys and having commentary and podcast gigs now, what are Don Callis' credentials for being VP of a company? Dude has put a lot of noses out of joint by, well, being a jerk and unprofessional over the years. He's not known as a great booker, creative mind or agent. He's not trained loads of guys or been involved in running a successful company. It feels like "Let's pickup someone famous, currently popular and Canadian. Oh and he might get us back in with New Japan too". Just a hunch, but feels like a really, REALLY bad decision to me. He’s been the link between New Japan and the international talent whether from ROH or Rev Pro and the like in getting them booked or getting NJPW talent onto English shows, as far as I know. Like, he’s responsible for linking Jericho with Gedo to get him booked for Wrestle Kingdom as an example.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 5, 2017 16:21:33 GMT -5
D'Amore should absolutely be involved. Aside from being friends with a lot of guys and having commentary and podcast gigs now, what are Don Callis' credentials for being VP of a company? Dude has put a lot of noses out of joint by, well, being a jerk and unprofessional over the years. He's not known as a great booker, creative mind or agent. He's not trained loads of guys or been involved in running a successful company. It feels like "Let's pickup someone famous, currently popular and Canadian. Oh and he might get us back in with New Japan too". Just a hunch, but feels like a really, REALLY bad decision to me. He’s been the link between New Japan and the international talent whether from ROH or Rev Pro and the like in getting them booked or getting NJPW talent onto English shows, as far as I know. Like, he’s responsible for linking Jericho with Gedo to get him booked for Wrestle Kingdom as an example. But there was an upside to involving Jericho with New Japan, there's absolutely no upside or incentive about involving New Japan with a Canadian indy that runs in dilapidated churches without running water that allegedly charges the talent for parking.
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Post by eJm on Dec 5, 2017 16:24:53 GMT -5
He’s been the link between New Japan and the international talent whether from ROH or Rev Pro and the like in getting them booked or getting NJPW talent onto English shows, as far as I know. Like, he’s responsible for linking Jericho with Gedo to get him booked for Wrestle Kingdom as an example. But there was an upside to involving Jericho with New Japan, there's absolutely no upside or incentive about involving New Japan with a Canadian indy that runs in dilapidated churches without running water that allegedly charges the talent for parking. This is me just throwing speculation out there but he’s probably there as a talent relations person too, able to get talent from other organisations together coherently as well as figuring out growth potential in relationships. Also, for him, it’s an easier side gig outside of his NJPW stuff. Again, if you think of TNA as a part time gig for people, these things become better to think about. Because people like Sami Callihan aren’t exactly hurting enough to need TNA, TNA needs to at least have them around every so often to TRY to give them some credibility. Not to say it WORKS (and honestly, it probably won’t long term) but the idea is there.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Dec 5, 2017 16:34:10 GMT -5
And whether we like it or not, TNA is still pretty well known amongst random wrestling fans I've found. Went to a Shimmer show with a number of my friends and was surprised they knew who all the TNA people were and no one else. On a less personal level, the large portion of the WWE fan base who knew of your AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Bobby Roodes and such. The company has surely seen better days, but apparently there are still eyes on it that don't know your average Indy that well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 17:08:45 GMT -5
D'Amore should absolutely be involved. Aside from being friends with a lot of guys and having commentary and podcast gigs now, what are Don Callis' credentials for being VP of a company? Dude has put a lot of noses out of joint by, well, being a jerk and unprofessional over the years. He's not known as a great booker, creative mind or agent. He's not trained loads of guys or been involved in running a successful company. It feels like "Let's pickup someone famous, currently popular and Canadian. Oh and he might get us back in with New Japan too". Just a hunch, but feels like a really, REALLY bad decision to me. He’s been the link between New Japan and the international talent whether from ROH or Rev Pro and the like in getting them booked or getting NJPW talent onto English shows, as far as I know. Like, he’s responsible for linking Jericho with Gedo to get him booked for Wrestle Kingdom as an example. Fair play, I didn't know he had that role. I suppose he's skeezy enough for TNA
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Post by The Spelunker! on Dec 5, 2017 17:21:14 GMT -5
Not a ton of discussion on the new Killing The Town, but they did mention Callis and D'Amore will be on Jerichos podcast together.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Dec 5, 2017 17:22:34 GMT -5
D'Amore should absolutely be involved. Aside from being friends with a lot of guys and having commentary and podcast gigs now, what are Don Callis' credentials for being VP of a company? Dude has put a lot of noses out of joint by, well, being a jerk and unprofessional over the years. He's not known as a great booker, creative mind or agent. He's not trained loads of guys or been involved in running a successful company. It feels like "Let's pickup someone famous, currently popular and Canadian. Oh and he might get us back in with New Japan too". Just a hunch, but feels like a really, REALLY bad decision to me. He says Vince repeatedly tried to get him on the creative team when he was in the WWF. He also says he's not just going there to be booker though and will be focusing on other parts of the company too.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 5, 2017 17:22:45 GMT -5
You know, if the move to Canada wasn't just a botched one-off, and Callis' involvement, do you think they'd try to hire on some Storm Academy folk? Though, most of them may have better options, and I don't see Lance himself having any interest in popping up for them.
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Post by eJm on Dec 5, 2017 17:33:35 GMT -5
You know, if the move to Canada wasn't just a botched one-off, and Callis' involvement, do you think they'd try to hire on some Storm Academy folk? Though, most of them may have better options, and I don't see Lance himself having any interest in popping up for them. Considering the decent amount of talent coming from that Academy and the popularity of it, it wouldn't do them any harm to at least ask. They'd have to prove that they won't treat Storm like an idiot like they did when asking him about their shows and booking before and that'd be the major stumbling block.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 17:36:50 GMT -5
You know, if the move to Canada wasn't just a botched one-off, and Callis' involvement, do you think they'd try to hire on some Storm Academy folk? Though, most of them may have better options, and I don't see Lance himself having any interest in popping up for them. Considering the decent amount of talent coming from that Academy and the popularity of it, it wouldn't do them any harm to at least ask. They'd have to prove that they won't treat Storm like an idiot like they did when asking him about their shows and booking before and that'd be the major stumbling block. They could really repair a lot by having Storm as a consultant again and ACTUALLY LISTENING
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Post by Muskrat on Dec 5, 2017 17:49:49 GMT -5
Considering the decent amount of talent coming from that Academy and the popularity of it, it wouldn't do them any harm to at least ask. They'd have to prove that they won't treat Storm like an idiot like they did when asking him about their shows and booking before and that'd be the major stumbling block. They could really repair a lot by having Storm as a consultant again and ACTUALLY LISTENING Whether he's collecting a cheque or not, Storm is close enough friends with Callis you know Don's gonna pick his brain from time to time. They're literally contractually obligated to talk at least once a week, and are probably in contact more often then that. Seriously tho, dude must being doing this as a favour for D'Amore. He's got a damn good (and well paying) career outside of wrestling. He doesn't need this gig, and I gotta believe it's not exactly gonna be fun like the New Japan job
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Dec 5, 2017 17:49:56 GMT -5
What is D'Amore's pedigree, exactly? Isn't he just one of Jarrett's toadies?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 17:51:41 GMT -5
What is D'Amore's pedigree, exactly? Isn't he just one of Jarrett's toadies? Was on the booking committee during their first 'good' period of creative and largely credited for the Knockouts success before the division got nuked.
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