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Post by The Spelunker! on Dec 5, 2017 17:54:52 GMT -5
What is D'Amore's pedigree, exactly? Isn't he just one of Jarrett's toadies? Was on the booking committee during their first 'good' period of creative and largely credited for the Knockouts success before the division got nuked. Beyond that ran his own Indy that the Team Canada boys and MCMG came out of.
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Post by Muskrat on Dec 5, 2017 18:03:47 GMT -5
What is D'Amore's pedigree, exactly? Isn't he just one of Jarrett's toadies? He's run a successful promotion and training school for about 20 years, booked it for about 5 years prior to that. Multiple successful business endeavors outside of wrestling. He's a smart cat, with good business sense and a proven track record. Hiring him and Callis is probably the smartest business move TNA has made in a long time. Or quite possibly ever.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Dec 5, 2017 18:23:13 GMT -5
Wow, positive TNA news for once.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 5, 2017 19:25:09 GMT -5
Both have had largely positive contributions to the business in the roles they're being tapped for and weren't on the cover of any books discussing the killing of any major promotions, so TNA is at least learning when it comes to their in-business hires.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 5, 2017 19:30:08 GMT -5
What is D'Amore's pedigree, exactly? Isn't he just one of Jarrett's toadies? He's run a successful promotion and training school for about 20 years, booked it for about 5 years prior to that. Multiple successful business endeavors outside of wrestling. He's a smart cat, with good business sense and a proven track record. Hiring him and Callis is probably the smartest business move TNA has made in a long time. Or quite possibly ever. Also surprisingly invented the Canadian Destroyer, apparently.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Dec 5, 2017 19:34:10 GMT -5
Callis? I've heard he's the Virus.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 5, 2017 19:51:58 GMT -5
But there was an upside to involving Jericho with New Japan, there's absolutely no upside or incentive about involving New Japan with a Canadian indy that runs in dilapidated churches without running water that allegedly charges the talent for parking. This is me just throwing speculation out there but he’s probably there as a talent relations person too, able to get talent from other organisations together coherently as well as figuring out growth potential in relationships. Also, for him, it’s an easier side gig outside of his NJPW stuff. Again, if you think of TNA as a part time gig for people, these things become better to think about. Because people like Sami Callihan aren’t exactly hurting enough to need TNA, TNA needs to at least have them around every so often to TRY to give them some credibility. Not to say it WORKS (and honestly, it probably won’t long term) but the idea is there. I agree with everything you said except the Sami Callihan part. The dude is hurting and needs tna because he ain't doing anything else.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 5, 2017 20:00:01 GMT -5
This is me just throwing speculation out there but he’s probably there as a talent relations person too, able to get talent from other organisations together coherently as well as figuring out growth potential in relationships. Also, for him, it’s an easier side gig outside of his NJPW stuff. Again, if you think of TNA as a part time gig for people, these things become better to think about. Because people like Sami Callihan aren’t exactly hurting enough to need TNA, TNA needs to at least have them around every so often to TRY to give them some credibility. Not to say it WORKS (and honestly, it probably won’t long term) but the idea is there. I agree with everything you said except the Sami Callihan part. The dude is hurting and needs tna because he ain't doing anything else. Could not be any further from the truth with Sami.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 5, 2017 20:01:16 GMT -5
D'Amore should absolutely be involved. Aside from being friends with a lot of guys and having commentary and podcast gigs now, what are Don Callis' credentials for being VP of a company? Dude has put a lot of noses out of joint by, well, being a jerk and unprofessional over the years. He's not known as a great booker, creative mind or agent. He's not trained loads of guys or been involved in running a successful company. It feels like "Let's pickup someone famous, currently popular and Canadian. Oh and he might get us back in with New Japan too". Just a hunch, but feels like a really, REALLY bad decision to me. Callis has worked in pretty much every aspect of wrestling. Wrestler, manager, trainer, booker, announcer, ran his own promotion... He also holds a masters degree in business and has done media relations for no less than the Canadian government. He's probably more qualified to run Impact than anyone who has ever run Impact.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 5, 2017 20:02:56 GMT -5
This is me just throwing speculation out there but he’s probably there as a talent relations person too, able to get talent from other organisations together coherently as well as figuring out growth potential in relationships. Also, for him, it’s an easier side gig outside of his NJPW stuff. Again, if you think of TNA as a part time gig for people, these things become better to think about. Because people like Sami Callihan aren’t exactly hurting enough to need TNA, TNA needs to at least have them around every so often to TRY to give them some credibility. Not to say it WORKS (and honestly, it probably won’t long term) but the idea is there. I agree with everything you said except the Sami Callihan part. The dude is hurting and needs tna because he ain't doing anything else. Um...what? Callihan has been working for pretty much every major indie not named ROH since he left NXT. Dude is better off now than before he was signed.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 5, 2017 20:09:32 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said except the Sami Callihan part. The dude is hurting and needs tna because he ain't doing anything else. Could not be any further from the truth with Sami. He never returned to pwg ill check out CZW maybe he's there.
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Post by eJm on Dec 5, 2017 20:11:13 GMT -5
This is me just throwing speculation out there but he’s probably there as a talent relations person too, able to get talent from other organisations together coherently as well as figuring out growth potential in relationships. Also, for him, it’s an easier side gig outside of his NJPW stuff. Again, if you think of TNA as a part time gig for people, these things become better to think about. Because people like Sami Callihan aren’t exactly hurting enough to need TNA, TNA needs to at least have them around every so often to TRY to give them some credibility. Not to say it WORKS (and honestly, it probably won’t long term) but the idea is there. I agree with everything you said except the Sami Callihan part. The dude is hurting and needs tna because he ain't doing anything else. I mean, besides likely being back for Lucha Underground Series 4, presently being in New Japan in the tag league with a possibility of being at Wrestle Kingdom next year and having regular indie bookings across America and in some cases parts of the world, you're right, Callihan is hurting. In all seriousness, come on man.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 5, 2017 20:15:15 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said except the Sami Callihan part. The dude is hurting and needs tna because he ain't doing anything else. I mean, besides likely being back for Lucha Underground Series 4, presently being in New Japan in the tag league with a possibility of being at Wrestle Kingdom next year and having regular indie bookings across America and in some cases parts of the world, you're right, Callihan is hurting. In all seriousness, come on man. Wait when he got on New Japan? That's impressive. I'm glad for the dude.
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Post by eJm on Dec 5, 2017 20:20:36 GMT -5
I mean, besides likely being back for Lucha Underground Series 4, presently being in New Japan in the tag league with a possibility of being at Wrestle Kingdom next year and having regular indie bookings across America and in some cases parts of the world, you're right, Callihan is hurting. In all seriousness, come on man. Wait when he got on New Japan? That's impressive. I'm glad for the dude. He's teaming with Juice Robinson in the Tag League and they're getting over enough with the fans to the point they might stay together afterwards. Yes, he's teaming with the the dude he beat up in his NXT debut, which is why their "real" team name in my heart is "Crowe Parker"
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 5, 2017 20:21:17 GMT -5
Could not be any further from the truth with Sami. He never returned to pwg ill check out CZW maybe he's there. He's been at PWG multiple times, and he's CZW's main booker (thus he's not mostly in shows). He also is the top guy in AIW, owns Pro Wrestling Revolver, and has a wrestling school opened with the Crist Brothers. He also is also wanted back for Lucha Underground, and is in the World Tag League for New Japan, and has been wrestling in Europe. TNA is just a chance to be on national tv with 2 of his best friends. As for these hires; It's more for business sense. 2 creative minds that seem to have a lot of support.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 5, 2017 23:04:39 GMT -5
Could not be any further from the truth with Sami. He never returned to pwg ill check out CZW maybe he's there. He had an amazing match there with Keith Lee and Brian Cage, among several others.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 3:36:10 GMT -5
D'Amore should absolutely be involved. Aside from being friends with a lot of guys and having commentary and podcast gigs now, what are Don Callis' credentials for being VP of a company? Dude has put a lot of noses out of joint by, well, being a jerk and unprofessional over the years. He's not known as a great booker, creative mind or agent. He's not trained loads of guys or been involved in running a successful company. It feels like "Let's pickup someone famous, currently popular and Canadian. Oh and he might get us back in with New Japan too". Just a hunch, but feels like a really, REALLY bad decision to me. Callis has worked in pretty much every aspect of wrestling. Wrestler, manager, trainer, booker, announcer, ran his own promotion... He also holds a masters degree in business and has done media relations for no less than the Canadian government. He's probably more qualified to run Impact than anyone who has ever run Impact. Fair play, I was very wrong. Going off what I'd read and been told by friends in the business who clearly aren't fans of his. Being honest I don't get a good vibe off him at all, but given his credentials he seems so excellent pickup for TNA.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 6, 2017 9:40:51 GMT -5
Lance and Cyrus talked about it on their podcast. Lance seems very happy for Cyrus. Not much given away but Cyrus did say that they'll give more info on Jericho's podcast (and I may have misunderstood, but it sounds like Jericho may have played a part in Cyrus getting the job). He did say that he is not just a booker, but he is being brought in to help re-organize how the company runs as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 11:02:08 GMT -5
smart move
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 6, 2017 11:22:49 GMT -5
This maybe the smart business move this company as ever made from a management stand point. Not many guys available have the background of doing so many different things in wrestling that could be in this role. Getting two guys who know wrestling in that kind of position is what this company needed for a long time. Jarrett as much as he thinks he his dad, he just not good at running a company.
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