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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 18:36:04 GMT -5
I guess when he returns, he'll do jobber duty on the Main Event IF. It all depends on how the facts turn out If it's as horrible as it sounds he's fired If it's somewhere in the middle he's still suspended and probably won't see TV time for a long while. Wouldn't be shocked if he's kept at home until contract runs out If it's "tame"(whatever the hell that could mean) than yeah he's the resident jobber and won't be trusted with anything until he's proven to have kept his nose clean for a long period of time I think at this point he has to be found not guilty or have the charges dropped to stick around. A no contest or guilty plea of any kind would result in his termination according to the WWE's domestic violence policy and the Morals Clause they have. Given the details of the police report, that seems unlikely. I wouldn't be shocked if they release him by this time tomorrow, just waiting for the first business day so they can go over the details of his release. |
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 10, 2017 18:36:25 GMT -5
Just saying. Isn't a wellness violation risk? It's just a fine but I'd say that being popped for being high multiple times will make management think that they can't be trusted with a push. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2017 18:37:02 GMT -5
It's a fine If weed was still on wellness their wouldn't be a roster for TV Yeah, WWE is a lot easier on that than, say, the UFC. Isn't that because of the comission tho |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 10, 2017 18:37:37 GMT -5
Nope. It's a fine, and I'll hazard a guess it's one a lot of the roster have paid at one point or another. Didn't Kendrick rack up a shit ton of weed violations and lose his push back during his 08 run? He did, yeah. He also admits he was trying to get fired by doing things like smoking backstage in front of Vince. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 10, 2017 18:37:52 GMT -5
Is it weird that since I know the area where this took place that I was going over the locations of the two separate incidents and was not only trying to figure out why they were where they were in the first place but also figure out where they were heading? I hear the wife was working a show that night, and Swann wouldn't be on the road right now because the Raw roster was on the UAE/India loop, and they don't take the whole Cruiserweight roster for those tours. Just Enzo and Kalisto would have been on that tour. |
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Dec 10, 2017 18:38:51 GMT -5
Yeah, WWE is a lot easier on that than, say, the UFC. Isn't that because of the comission tho Oh certainly. The athletic commissions, especially in Nevada, are just about zero tolerance. And UFC follows their lead, which is what killed Matthew Riddle's career there. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 18:38:59 GMT -5
My friend sold him weed when SDL was in town in Feb. I know it is just weed, but it shows he wasn't the "straight and narrow, rose above it all, role model" they made him out to be. Did he ask your friend for his strongest stuff and did your friend reply, "Can you handle this/" |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2017 18:40:08 GMT -5
IF. It all depends on how the facts turn out If it's as horrible as it sounds he's fired If it's somewhere in the middle he's still suspended and probably won't see TV time for a long while. Wouldn't be shocked if he's kept at home until contract runs out If it's "tame"(whatever the hell that could mean) than yeah he's the resident jobber and won't be trusted with anything until he's proven to have kept his nose clean for a long period of time I think at this point he has to be found not guilty or have the charges dropped to stick around. A no contest or guilty plea of any kind would result in his termination according to the WWE's domestic violence policy and the Morals Clause they have. Given the details of the police report, that seems unlikely. I wouldn't be shocked if they release him by this time tomorrow, just waiting for the first business day so they can go over the details of his release. Agreed. I'm pretty sure they have their own team digging into this or at the very least getting every single bit of info from the cops and talking to Rich I don't know if it will be as soon as tomorrow but I expect sometime this week if nothing "positive" comes out leaning in Swann direction than he's getting the boot This would be what the 3rd time they've had someone suspended under their policy and Rose was fired, King was brought back when details came out and Rich is probably going to be fired |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 18:41:40 GMT -5
I think at this point he has to be found not guilty or have the charges dropped to stick around. A no contest or guilty plea of any kind would result in his termination according to the WWE's domestic violence policy and the Morals Clause they have. Given the details of the police report, that seems unlikely. I wouldn't be shocked if they release him by this time tomorrow, just waiting for the first business day so they can go over the details of his release. Agreed. I'm pretty sure they have their own team digging into this or at the very least getting every single bit of info from the cops and talking to Rich I don't know if it will be as soon as tomorrow but I expect sometime this week if nothing "positive" comes out leaning in Swann direction than he's getting the boot This would be what the 3rd time they've had someone suspended under their policy and Rose was fired, King was brought back when details came out and Rich is probably going to be fired Rose actually requested his release, but yeah. I don't figure Swann's ever showing up on TV again. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2017 18:46:19 GMT -5
Isn't that because of the comission tho Oh certainly. The athletic commissions, especially in Nevada, are just about zero tolerance. And UFC follows their lead, which is what killed Matthew Riddle's career there. Luckily for him wrestling has been a saving grace because he even f***ed over his chance in Bellator |
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Post by Topher is Human on Dec 10, 2017 18:51:00 GMT -5
They should play it straight,
On Raw, have Gulak come out all ready for the match. Have Swann’s music hit and he doesn’t come out. Repeat this a few times with Gulak calling him a coward, then declare Gulak the winner via forfeit.
The whole time, having commentary say things like “is he scared of Gulak or something?”, never even alluding to the trope of someone being beaten up backstage before their match.
Drew then celebrates via an uninterrupted PowerPoint Presentation about wholesome family values.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 10, 2017 18:51:08 GMT -5
I try not to judge anyone by who they are at their worst moment, but dude. What’s done is done, hopefully he mans up, apologizes, and gets help. Long road in front of him.
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 10, 2017 18:53:34 GMT -5
Is it weird that since I know the area where this took place that I was going over the locations of the two separate incidents and was not only trying to figure out why they were where they were in the first place but also figure out where they were heading? I hear the wife was working a show that night, and Swann wouldn't be on the road right now because the Raw roster was on the UAE/India loop, and they don't take the whole Cruiserweight roster for those tours. Just Enzo and Kalisto would have been on that tour. Not that they were in Gainesville but the location of the incident specifically. It's not a main road and outside of a liquor store and an apartment complex there's not much in the area. Also the two witnesses were roughly a mile apart. |
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 10, 2017 18:55:19 GMT -5
I dunno man. Swann can do his hopping 450 straight to hell for all I care. f*** that dude. He was the shittiest CW champion so far anyway so double f*** him. I'll never forget the moment in which the Cruiserweight Division instantly got elevated by Neville returning and just punching him right in the face to a massive pop. "You call yourself the king of the cruiserweights? Heh. I think yer a Jester!" |
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Post by chazraps on Dec 10, 2017 18:58:51 GMT -5
Lastly we all have heard his story about his family dying, drug usage and being homeless. These are things that can lead to a person adopting bad coping habits, and decision making. A lot of people aren't just pure evil or pure good, mistakes happen, bad choices can happen. It's not necessarily about what he's done, but how he responds to what he's done. Hopefully this all blows over and everything is cool between all parties. That's the ideal scenario we all should hope for, not a man losing his job because of one bad mistake. Incase you missed this post earlier: I don't know who that is, but to explain more easily, I'm a guy that believes in innocence until proven guilty. This just seems like an isolated thing. I'm trying to look out for you here with this... Stop talking. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 10, 2017 19:02:58 GMT -5
Given how little he brings to the table at all,don't you have to just cut him loose here?
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Dec 10, 2017 19:10:48 GMT -5
Given how little he brings to the table at all,don't you have to just cut him loose here? Of course, they should at least let the legal process play itself out before any further action, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s had his last TV appearance in WWE. (Which may be a rare instance of someone being cut after a long winning streak... Usually it’s a long losing streak before the cut) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 19:14:37 GMT -5
Horrible news. I'm really disappointed, but more so disgusted with Rich Swann's actions. I really liked the guy before this, too.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 10, 2017 19:15:30 GMT -5
Given how little he brings to the table at all,don't you have to just cut him loose here? Of course, they should at least let the legal process play itself out before any further action, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s had his last TV appearance in WWE. (Which may be a rare instance of someone being cut after a long winning streak... Usually it’s a long losing streak before the cut) Just for optic's sake, if I'm them he's Future Endeavored immediately. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 19:16:54 GMT -5
I guess when he returns, he'll do jobber duty on the Main Event IF he returns. This is messed up behavior. If he ever comes back, I can see him getting the Mike Knox treatment where midgets beat him with ease. |
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