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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2017 19:18:44 GMT -5
Given how little he brings to the table at all,don't you have to just cut him loose here? More so to give him his "due" You see what's happening on the legal side and if the cops facts match up to what's reported he's out the door He violated zero tolerance which lead to his suspension and it all takes is a confirmation of the facts for him to be fired which will save WWE from a potential lawsuit from him in the future about wrongful termination |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 10, 2017 19:30:21 GMT -5
It's a fine If weed was still on wellness their wouldn't be a roster for TV Yeah, WWE is a lot easier on that than, say, the UFC. Yep, UFC is a competitive sport judged by independent athletic commissions, looking at cheating in a sport. (although I don't know how one uses weed as a performance enhancing drug) WWE is looking out for the health and safety of its employees. If it's not addictive and it's not going to give you heart attacks, WWE isn't going to seriously punish you for it. |
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Dec 10, 2017 19:33:40 GMT -5
Yeah, WWE is a lot easier on that than, say, the UFC. Yep, UFC is a competitive sport judged by independent athletic commissions, looking at cheating in a sport. (although I don't know how one uses weed as a performance enhancing drug) WWE is looking out for the health and safety of its employees. If it's not addictive and it's not going to give you heart attacks, WWE isn't going to seriously punish you for it. The idea, I think, is that it serves as a pain blocker to varying degrees depending on how much is used. Nick Diaz had an awesome submission win in PRIDE overturned on those grounds. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 19:38:01 GMT -5
I know we always joke about it but what the chances of TNA hiring him if he does get fired from WWE. Isn't like their actually going to lose people coming to their shows.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 10, 2017 19:41:37 GMT -5
I am unfamiliar with this promo. Any clarification would be appreciated. Language Warning and Shitty Crowd Alert cause it's CZW This was about right after Gage was caught Robbing a Bank and had to be pulled from all shows including I believe a Title Match with Gulak, Gulak proceeded to rip into him incredibly hard while still staying in gimmick. CZW is a classy, classy place where people will cheer for the man who robbed a bank over the guy saying 'Hey, that's messed up'. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 10, 2017 19:55:39 GMT -5
Of course, they should at least let the legal process play itself out before any further action, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s had his last TV appearance in WWE. (Which may be a rare instance of someone being cut after a long winning streak... Usually it’s a long losing streak before the cut) Just for optic's sake, if I'm them he's Future Endeavored immediately. A company as big as WWE has to do all the legal dotting of 'i's and crossing of 't's first, even if it hurts them in the social media/TMZ gauntlet. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 10, 2017 20:00:08 GMT -5
Just for optic's sake, if I'm them he's Future Endeavored immediately. A company as big as WWE has to do all the legal dotting of 'i's and crossing of 't's first, even if it hurts them in the social media/TMZ gauntlet. Not really given the whole bogus independent contractor thing. They could let him sit out his dates, and then just release him from said contract. |
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Post by fw91 on Dec 10, 2017 20:08:41 GMT -5
sigh........ A rags to riches story tarnished
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Post by bootytea on Dec 10, 2017 20:11:37 GMT -5
Damn, I can't even believe it.
As someone who lives with a girl with quite the temper, I tried to rationalize this, but its not looking good for Swann. Lol.
There have been times I held my girl and calmed her down by talking it out, but a headlock is quite intense. Sometimes things can get heated and you look back at it and see how silly it was. You have to keep in mind the size difference, especially as a wrestler where you are taught about that in your first week.
Its tough to digest, especially when I read stats and see WWE clearly saw something in the guy.
As mentioned earlier in the thread, its what he does in the time to come. If Austin or Tyson can be universally loved then there's hope for Swann who I doubt is half as bad as those two.
It breaks my heart for sure. I remember seeing him in an NXT taping before NXT Takeover Toronto and thinking, "There's a guy who will be around for years to come!" Hopefully he shapes up soon.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Dec 10, 2017 20:18:35 GMT -5
Rich should've used the Jimmy Snuka defense, act like a confused foreigner and wait until Vince talked to the police and give them a briefcase full of money...allegedly. The foreigner defense wouldn't work since he is from Baltimore before he moved to Orlando |
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Post by mattperiolat on Dec 10, 2017 20:22:03 GMT -5
Of course, they should at least let the legal process play itself out before any further action, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s had his last TV appearance in WWE. (Which may be a rare instance of someone being cut after a long winning streak... Usually it’s a long losing streak before the cut) Just for optic's sake, if I'm them he's Future Endeavored immediately. Legally, they can’t. Especially in a case like this, they cannot terminate without opening themselves up to a discrimination lawsuit. Why the policy is worded in summation: “If you get pinched, suspension until resolution. If convicted as the result of arrest, immediate termination.” Effect and cause. The reason why we are all leaning more when than if is that Swann doesn’t seem to be contesting. So, we are all rolling the drums as he marches toward the gallows of his own making. And as stated earlier, I ain’t sorry. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 10, 2017 20:30:44 GMT -5
Just for optic's sake, if I'm them he's Future Endeavored immediately. Legally, they can’t. Especially in a case like this, they cannot terminate without opening themselves up to a discrimination lawsuit. Yeah, they got burned by that before when they fired Emma over the shoplifting incident, only to hire her back almost immediately. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2017 21:06:01 GMT -5
Legally, they can’t. Especially in a case like this, they cannot terminate without opening themselves up to a discrimination lawsuit. Yeah, they got burned by that before when they fired Emma over the shoplifting incident, only to hire her back almost immediately. Yea, pretty much this They are doing their due diligence essentially Zero tolerance policy allows him to be suspended because of the arrest and situation anyway so if there's any truth to any of the details that got out they can fire him with no problem and also not have to worry about him trying to come after them for terminating his contract without purpose |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 21:15:28 GMT -5
Just for optic's sake, if I'm them he's Future Endeavored immediately. Legally, they can’t. Especially in a case like this, they cannot terminate without opening themselves up to a discrimination lawsuit. Why the policy is worded in summation: “If you get pinched, suspension until resolution. If convicted as the result of arrest, immediate termination.” Effect and cause. The reason why we are all leaning more when than if is that Swann doesn’t seem to be contesting. So, we are all rolling the drums as he marches toward the gallows of his own making. And as stated earlier, I ain’t sorry. Yeah they can drop him right away. As I posted earlier from PWInsider: They don't need a conviction, they just need proof and given the circumstances that will be easy to get. |
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Post by Sparvid on Dec 10, 2017 22:30:35 GMT -5
I was going to ask when the last time someone got released after getting into legal trouble, then I remembered Bram and looked him up.
Maybe developmental deals are different from the main roster, but he was released about one week after being charged with battery of an officer.
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Post by Heinz Doofenschmirtz on Dec 10, 2017 23:00:43 GMT -5
He and Cedric Alexander were my two favourites from the CWC. Shame Swann’s a huge asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 23:12:41 GMT -5
sigh........ A rags to riches story tarnished From rages to riches back to rags. |
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 10, 2017 23:13:15 GMT -5
Given how little he brings to the table at all,don't you have to just cut him loose here? More so to give him his "due" You see what's happening on the legal side and if the cops facts match up to what's reported he's out the door He violated zero tolerance which lead to his suspension and it all takes is a confirmation of the facts for him to be fired which will save WWE from a potential lawsuit from him in the future about wrongful termination I'm not sure there's a way to be wrongfully terminated from the wwe. They reserve the right to terminate you for any reason if you are on the talent side. |
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Post by jagilki on Dec 10, 2017 23:23:39 GMT -5
sigh........ A rags to riches story tarnished From rages to riches back to rags. He's already signed a TNA contract? |
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 10, 2017 23:28:04 GMT -5
on the legal side it'll be an interesting time. If she does not press charges there might not be a case here. Most times things like abuse need "damages" and kidnapping needs a person to say it was against her "will." Swan's wife has a legal right not to testify against her husband. While the evidence is pretty cut and dry, the major key is the victim to confirm they were the target of the abuse. If the victim is not willing to say they were the victim it essentially (in legal terms) means there is no victim. Any lawyer worth their salt could defend this with ease.
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