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Post by joeiscool on Dec 10, 2017 14:14:03 GMT -5
Also let's put this into perspective. I won't say Swan was right in this situation, I will say this might just be a one off mistake and not necariallly a pattern of abuse. A: Your wife wants to leave the car in a place you are unfamiliar with. For all you know the place could be a very bad neighborhood. My guess is most people would be against the idea. B: your wife leaves a moving car in the middle of traffic, most people would be trying to get her to come back in. This is not to say Swan is right, he definitely made the wrong choices here, but to say he's this over all abuser might be unfair. Fair points. But when trying to get your wife to return to the car, headlocking her and dragging her back to the car shouldn’t be an option. It shouldn't be, agreed. That's why he's in trouble. I'm just saying I'm not sure we can Judge him as a person from this one instance. |
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Dec 10, 2017 14:14:28 GMT -5
To me, until your actually convicted of something like this through an investigation, you've done no harm. I have no reason to buy witness' account because they can be easily misconstrued.
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Post by edgestar on Dec 10, 2017 14:14:47 GMT -5
Maybe now we're jumping to conclusions. So he screwed up. Apparently based on this, his wife forgives him, so there must be something missing here. That doesn't necessarily mean his wife forgives him for what happened. Something worse could have happened, and she pressed charges. |
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 10, 2017 14:20:57 GMT -5
I'm not saying he's right at all. He def deserves what ever comes from this investigation if he's committed any crimes.. I'm talking about in terms of judging his character... If he has that in him to think any of what he alledgedly did is an option there's a serious problem with his character....I will absolutely judge him for it one off or not. Stress is one hell of an emotion. People do things under stress they normally wouldn't think of. I personally want to see what he does after this. If he owns up to his mistakes, and seeks whatever help is needed, or if he denies and shifts blame. If he takes responsibility I'd see him more positively than if he does not.. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2017 14:21:37 GMT -5
To me, until your actually convicted of something like this through an investigation, you've done no harm. I have no reason to buy witness' account because they can be easily misconstrued. That's a very black and white way of looking at it and i'm not saying you're wrong but the devil is always in the details To make a joke at your expense I guess you believe John Gotti was a good citizen because he got away from a lot of convictions until they finally cornered him |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Dec 10, 2017 14:25:55 GMT -5
Fair points. But when trying to get your wife to return to the car, headlocking her and dragging her back to the car shouldn’t be an option. It shouldn't be, agreed. That's why he's in trouble. I'm just saying I'm not sure we can Judge him as a person from this one instance. I’m fine with leaving that up to the judge that decides on whether or not he’s going to prison. |
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Post by edgestar on Dec 10, 2017 14:26:49 GMT -5
Please keep the thread on topic, and be as respectful as we can, of other's opinions.
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Post by Shai on Dec 10, 2017 14:27:30 GMT -5
If he has that in him to think any of what he alledgedly did is an option there's a serious problem with his character....I will absolutely judge him for it one off or not. Stress is one hell of an emotion. People do things under stress they normally wouldn't think of. I personally want to see what he does after this. If he owns up to his mistakes, and seeks whatever help is needed, or if he denies and shifts blame. If he takes responsibility I'd see him more positively than if he does not.. Domestic Violence is a automatic f*** off forever as far as I'm concerned....I don't care if it was only once or he was stressed...that's just how I am because of my own history. |
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 10, 2017 14:31:01 GMT -5
Awwwww shit.
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 10, 2017 14:34:21 GMT -5
Stress is one hell of an emotion. People do things under stress they normally wouldn't think of. I personally want to see what he does after this. If he owns up to his mistakes, and seeks whatever help is needed, or if he denies and shifts blame. If he takes responsibility I'd see him more positively than if he does not.. Domestic Violence is a automatic f*** off forever as far as I'm concerned....I don't care if it was only once or he was stressed...that's just how I am because of my own history. I'm not trying to defend Swan cause I don't know him. In a more broad sense I'm just saying people can change for the better, and it can be detrimental to a society to completely write relatively good people off for past indiscretions. |
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Dec 10, 2017 14:37:09 GMT -5
To me, until your actually convicted of something like this through an investigation, you've done no harm. I have no reason to buy witness' account because they can be easily misconstrued. That's a very black and white way of looking at it and i'm not saying you're wrong but the devil is always in the details To make a joke at your expense I guess you believe John Gotti was a good citizen because he got away from a lot of convictions until they finally cornered him I don't know who that is, but to explain more easily, I'm a guy that believes in innocence until proven guilty. This just seems like an isolated thing. |
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 10, 2017 14:38:35 GMT -5
Stress is one hell of an emotion. People do things under stress they normally wouldn't think of. I personally want to see what he does after this. If he owns up to his mistakes, and seeks whatever help is needed, or if he denies and shifts blame. If he takes responsibility I'd see him more positively than if he does not.. Domestic Violence is a automatic f*** off forever as far as I'm concerned....I don't care if it was only once or he was stressed...that's just how I am because of my own history. also I'm not saying he should not face consequences. He most certainly should, but in 5-10 years from now if he's in a much better place I'm not sure if this should still be the thing that keeps him from performing. |
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 10, 2017 14:40:21 GMT -5
What’s Broke Goose doing in the Impact Zone?
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Dec 10, 2017 14:43:20 GMT -5
That's a very black and white way of looking at it and i'm not saying you're wrong but the devil is always in the details To make a joke at your expense I guess you believe John Gotti was a good citizen because he got away from a lot of convictions until they finally cornered him I don't know who that is, but to explain more easily, I'm a guy that believes in innocence until proven guilty. This just seems like an isolated thing. I'm trying to look out for you here with this... Stop talking. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Dec 10, 2017 14:43:48 GMT -5
Yo could you imagine the legendary status Drew would get if he pulled a "Nick Gage Bank Robbery" promo like he did in CZW?? I am unfamiliar with this promo. Any clarification would be appreciated. Language Warning and Shitty Crowd Alert cause it's CZW This was about right after Gage was caught Robbing a Bank and had to be pulled from all shows including I believe a Title Match with Gulak, Gulak proceeded to rip into him incredibly hard while still staying in gimmick. |
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Post by Aboutreika18 on Dec 10, 2017 14:45:15 GMT -5
People don't just jump out of moving cars for no damn reason.... Unless they're like me when they're playing GTA. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 14:46:00 GMT -5
Question, say WWE lets him go. How is the indie scene in regards to domestic violence?
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Post by Shai on Dec 10, 2017 14:47:26 GMT -5
People don't just jump out of moving cars for no damn reason.... Unless they're like me when they're playing GTA. Thanks...I needed that laugh...cause I do that shit when I play GTA too. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 10, 2017 14:51:00 GMT -5
Question, say WWE lets him go. How is the indie scene in regards to domestic violence? Well... TNA'll take'em. Most Indy's probably would too. |
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Post by tenshi on Dec 10, 2017 14:54:52 GMT -5
I think that he might not be able to wiggle his thighs in a threatening way to people in jail.
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