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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2017 14:54:56 GMT -5
Question, say WWE lets him go. How is the indie scene in regards to domestic violence? Indies will probably look at it as their gain and WWE loss Also don't rule out impact wrestling since they had Bram under contract after his violations |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 10, 2017 14:56:15 GMT -5
Question, say WWE lets him go. How is the indie scene in regards to domestic violence? Indies will probably look at it as their gain and WWE loss Also don't rule out impact wrestling since they had Bram under contract after his violations and Moose. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 14:56:17 GMT -5
Question, say WWE lets him go. How is the indie scene in regards to domestic violence? Can't see any of the majors using him right away. Some of the smaller ones might after a few months if he's quiet. Someone will use him though. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 10, 2017 14:58:47 GMT -5
Indies will probably look at it as their gain and WWE loss Also don't rule out impact wrestling since they had Bram under contract after his violations and Moose. & Moose He didn't sign with WWE because that came to light and looked to investigate but then he went to TNA |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 10, 2017 15:01:23 GMT -5
Rich should've used the Jimmy Snuka defense, act like a confused foreigner and wait until Vince talked to the police and give them a briefcase full of money...allegedly.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 10, 2017 15:04:00 GMT -5
I dunno man. Swann can do his hopping 450 straight to hell for all I care.
f*** that dude. He was the shittiest CW champion so far anyway so double f*** him.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 10, 2017 15:04:17 GMT -5
Question, say WWE lets him go. How is the indie scene in regards to domestic violence? Indies will probably look at it as their gain and WWE loss Also don't rule out impact wrestling since they had Bram under contract after his violations Shit, they had Bram under about 50 contracts after his violations. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Dec 10, 2017 15:10:29 GMT -5
Question, say WWE lets him go. How is the indie scene in regards to domestic violence? Indies will probably look at it as their gain and WWE loss Also don't rule out impact wrestling since they had Bram under contract after his violations He'd probably be straight back to PWG too |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 15:10:57 GMT -5
Yeah, f*** this guy. Seems very clearly cut and dry because there aren't ways to spin jumping out of a moving car to forcibly drag someone back into it.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 10, 2017 15:23:06 GMT -5
As far as the matter of "But she forgives him"/"But the charges were dropped": forgiveness is actually a super huge part of the whole damn cycle of domestic abuse. If there are witnesses and an arrest made it's generally not an empty accusation, but as the process circles back around it's common for the victim, now accepting the abuser's apology and claim they'll make things right, to ask for charges to be dropped. Bram confessed to his crime and the charges were still dropped because of the victim. You can't just not account for that part of this whole situation.
It's one thing when an accusation is made, no charges are pressed and then the accuser comes out and admits it was a lie, like in the Otunga situation from earlier. It's another entirely when something like this happens.
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Post by mattperiolat on Dec 10, 2017 15:30:02 GMT -5
Stress is one hell of an emotion. People do things under stress they normally wouldn't think of. I personally want to see what he does after this. If he owns up to his mistakes, and seeks whatever help is needed, or if he denies and shifts blame. If he takes responsibility I'd see him more positively than if he does not.. Domestic Violence is a automatic f*** off forever as far as I'm concerned....I don't care if it was only once or he was stressed...that's just how I am because of my own history. That’s the same problem I have and why I may need to back off the thread - I have skin in the game. I’ve seen domestic verbal and physical abuse from when I was young. I too have a temper and I can empathize with Rich with how hard it is to manage. But there comes a point where you cross from empathy to judgment and I’m at the line. Dragging someone into the car? Attempting to crash it? Two witnesses? I don’t want to rush to judgment, but there is nothing here that looks good or forgivable. I also do not want to get into arguments with anyone here. So, at least on this thread, I sense I may have to go silent after this. I’m either putting way too much out there or Im putting myself in a bad position. I hope it’s not as bad as it appears but flat out, if you did it, you just Swann dived into the penitentiary and I ain’t one bit sorry. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 10, 2017 15:40:26 GMT -5
...holy shit.
So yeah, let this be a reminder to never judge a book by it's cover. No matter how cheerful someone looks and acts, you never truly know.
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Post by Perd on Dec 10, 2017 15:41:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought the guy had a lot of potential. But if this is true, which I think
it very likely is, he can f*** off.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Dec 10, 2017 15:42:33 GMT -5
He f***ing let the car keep rolling so he could terrorize his wife.
What the f*** man?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 10, 2017 15:43:40 GMT -5
Domestic Violence is a automatic f*** off forever as far as I'm concerned....I don't care if it was only once or he was stressed...that's just how I am because of my own history. That’s the same problem I have and why I may need to back off the thread - I have skin in the game. I’ve seen domestic verbal and physical abuse from when I was young. I too have a temper and I can empathize with Rich with how hard it is to manage. But there comes a point where you cross from empathy to judgment and I’m at the line. Dragging someone into the car? Attempting to crash it? Two witnesses? I don’t want to rush to judgment, but there is nothing here that looks good or forgivable. I also do not want to get into arguments with anyone here. So, at least on this thread, I sense I may have to go silent after this. I’m either putting way too much out there or Im putting myself in a bad position. I hope it’s not as bad as it appears but flat out, if you did it, you just Swann dived into the penitentiary and I ain’t one bit sorry. Yeah, that's one of the unfortunate unexpected little shitty parts of threads like these; there's always posts that read like even if they're not saying it, they've clearly lived or grown up in these sorts of situations, and that's just an absolutely miserable thing to be picking up about someone. |
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Post by Tenshigure on Dec 10, 2017 15:54:06 GMT -5
Also don't rule out impact wrestling since they had Bram under contract after his violations Not going to be as easy anymore since they moved operations to Toronto. If convicted, he could very well be banned from working in Canada, let alone visit. Impact may not want to deal with the headaches to bring the one guy in (it would require a good immigrant lawyer at least). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 15:55:33 GMT -5
Also don't rule out impact wrestling since they had Bram under contract after his violations Not going to be as easy anymore since they moved operations to Toronto. If convicted, he could very well be banned from working in Canada, let alone visit. Impact may not want to deal with the headaches to bring the one guy in (it would require a good immigrant lawyer at least). He's actually already left TNA, just he was there for a long while. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 15:58:21 GMT -5
What a piece of shit.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 10, 2017 16:00:02 GMT -5
Also don't rule out impact wrestling since they had Bram under contract after his violations Not going to be as easy anymore since they moved operations to Toronto. If convicted, he could very well be banned from working in Canada, let alone visit. Impact may not want to deal with the headaches to bring the one guy in (it would require a good immigrant lawyer at least). Weren't the enxt round of tapings announced back in Orlando? |
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Post by normansmiley on Dec 10, 2017 16:03:05 GMT -5
Man...my wife randomly decided to watch an episode of 205 Live with me a while back. It was the episode where Rich Swann beat The Brian Kendrick for the Cruiserweight Title. The pre-match video (where Rich talked about his parents dying) made her tear up, then when he beat Brian, she actually burst into tears lol. The match didn't make her a wrestling fan, but whenever Rich would be on TV, she'd always say "That's the guy that made me cry! Awww!"
I don't have the heart to tell her what happened. I'll probably tell her Rich decided to head back to Japan or something.
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