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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 17, 2017 20:51:34 GMT -5
Yea since TTG has become the number one show they've gone all steam ahead with the same format for every show They did with the Powerpuff Girls, Ben 10, the new unikitty show, and supposedly there was a Scooby Doo show in the making as well It's like they couldn't wait for Regular Show to end and now it's the same for Adventure Time and even Gumball. Steven Universe is surviving but when do they call it quits Honestly I'm hoping season six is the end for Steven Universe. The show just stalls everything so much that I'd rather they just get to the point and go out on a positive instead of getting to season nine or something still waiting for the plot to wrap up. Plus really less time to work with means less time they can sink into pointless town episodes I don't care about. The thing is Steven Universe still rakes in money and has a massive fan base so I don't think they are in any rush to end the show but i'm sure there's some frustration and the creators/directors/producers part in regards to their schedule. They probably would be better off following the Adventure Time model of coming out with a week worth of episodes every few months that deal with the overall story and a good mini block arc
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 20:56:29 GMT -5
Honestly I'm hoping season six is the end for Steven Universe. The show just stalls everything so much that I'd rather they just get to the point and go out on a positive instead of getting to season nine or something still waiting for the plot to wrap up. Plus really less time to work with means less time they can sink into pointless town episodes I don't care about. The thing is Steven Universe still rakes in money and has a massive fan base so I don't think they are in any rush to end the show but i'm sure there's some frustration and the creators/directors/producers part in regards to their schedule. They probably would be better off following the Adventure Time model of coming out with a week worth of episodes every few months that deal with the overall story and a good mini block arc Well, the scheduling of the show doesn't remotely help matters, but the core problem for me is with the writing itself - it genuinely feels like nothing happens 90% of the time and like all of the story that's come in seasons 3 through 5 could've been done in a single season if they'd just stop dragging everything out. It also doesn't really help my recent perception of the show that the Crystal Gems have been majorly on the backburner lately and I'm getting pretty tired of how everything bad needs to have a happy little spin on it at the end and no consequences for anything last for more than a handful of episodes. Though at least the show did finally introduce an actual outright villain. No idea when Aquamarine will actually show up again but she was appreciated while around.
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 17, 2017 21:09:03 GMT -5
It's been speculated that they dont care about the live feed anymore and are more interested in pushing the app.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Dec 17, 2017 21:33:22 GMT -5
I don't even hate TTG and this is a bit too much. Also I laughed at this bit of Steven Universe in there.
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Post by mrtuesday on Dec 17, 2017 22:30:09 GMT -5
It's been speculated that they dont care about the live feed anymore and are more interested in pushing the app. Live TV is slowly dying. More and more households are cutting the cord. Most these days watch their entertainment on apps like Netflix. CN focusing all their attention on the app is a smart move. However, to actually watch full episodes, you need a Cable subscription. And with more and more cord cutters, it's counter-productive.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 22:33:12 GMT -5
It's been speculated that they dont care about the live feed anymore and are more interested in pushing the app. Live TV is slowly dying. More and more households are cutting the cord. Most these days watch their entertainment on apps like Netflix. CN focusing all their attention on the app is a smart move. However, to actually watch full episodes, you need a Cable subscription. And with more and more cord cutters, it's counter-productive. That's why I hate these apps; you have to have cable to watch the app. It doesn't work if you don't have cable. Plus, sometimes you can't buy the episodes on Google Store or iTunes or Windows Store.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 18, 2017 3:11:36 GMT -5
The thing is Steven Universe still rakes in money and has a massive fan base so I don't think they are in any rush to end the show but i'm sure there's some frustration and the creators/directors/producers part in regards to their schedule. They probably would be better off following the Adventure Time model of coming out with a week worth of episodes every few months that deal with the overall story and a good mini block arc Well, the scheduling of the show doesn't remotely help matters, but the core problem for me is with the writing itself - it genuinely feels like nothing happens 90% of the time and like all of the story that's come in seasons 3 through 5 could've been done in a single season if they'd just stop dragging everything out. It also doesn't really help my recent perception of the show that the Crystal Gems have been majorly on the backburner lately and I'm getting pretty tired of how everything bad needs to have a happy little spin on it at the end and no consequences for anything last for more than a handful of episodes. Though at least the show did finally introduce an actual outright villain. No idea when Aquamarine will actually show up again but she was appreciated while around. SU is a pretty heavy show enough as it is. I like how it tries to maintain a hopeful, positive spin in spite of what the characters are going through. The little small moments at the end of a lot of these episodes don't come off to me as "this thing didn't affect us " as it does them recollecting themselves. I dunno, I think it's dark enough for a main CN show. At least unlike TTG, Rebecca Sugar and crew try to write events that matter.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 18, 2017 3:47:00 GMT -5
That show is genuinely the worst long lasting CN show ever, and I'm including Johnny Test on that list. It amazes me how much they've just utterly given up.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Dec 18, 2017 3:55:19 GMT -5
It's been speculated that they dont care about the live feed anymore and are more interested in pushing the app. I've herd that a few times myself. I'm one of those folks that uses the app.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 4:01:36 GMT -5
That show is genuinely the worst long lasting CN show ever, and I'm including Johnny Test on that list. It amazes me how much they've just utterly given up. Eh, Teen Titans Go isn't at all good (especially once they got into, "Why write jokes when we just can insult the old show and dance," mode), but I find it a lot more tolerable than some other things they've had in the rotation. Johnny Test is certainly one of those, and being honest I'd probably rather watch it than Gumball.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 4:42:35 GMT -5
At this point, Cartoon network is filler for Adult Swim /Toonami. This year was Cartoon Network 25th anniversary and they did nothing for it unlike adult swim and toonami whom did stuff for their anniversary this year too.
As for Steven Universe, if it wasn't for this forum, I would had thought that Steven Universe was cancelled by now. I have this theory that CN view SU as a liability and just waiting until they can cancelled the show. SU went from being aired daily and having marathons to being non exists. This was around the time, SU fandom started getting a reputation for being a toxic fandom and before anyone say anything, I know they still promoted Rick and Morty. But there a difference between Manchilds throwing a tantrum at McDonald over mcnugget sauce and people attack artist and other show creators and almost driving people to suicide because of a kid cartoon about space rocks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 4:46:32 GMT -5
At this point, Cartoon network is filler for Adult Swim /Toonami. This year was Cartoon Network 25th anniversary and they did nothing for it unlike adult swim and toonami whom did stuff for their anniversary this year too. As for Steven Universe, if it wasn't for this forum, I would had thought that Steven Universe was cancelled by now. I have this theory that CN view SU as a liability and just waiting until they can cancelled the show. SU went from being aired daily and having marathons to being non exists. This was around the time, SU fandom started getting a reputation for being a toxic fandom and before anyone say anything, I know they still promoted Rick and Morty. But there a difference between Manchilds throwing a tantrum at McDonald over mcnugget sauce and people attack artist and other show creators and almost driving people to suicide because of a kid cartoon about space rocks. I really doubt the actions of a handful of crazies have anything to do with Cartoon Network depushing the show. Really I figure it boils more down to Steven Universe 1), probably being a lot more costly to make than TTG is, 2), having a dedicated fandom that'll keep buying stuff of it even while it's nowhere to be found while if TTG disappeared entirely for a couple months people'd probably forget it existed, and 3), being a headache in some international markets due to how heavy on gay themes it is.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Dec 18, 2017 12:08:32 GMT -5
I find it very hard to put the blame on the Steven Universe crew for the show being slow when they don't control when the episodes air. When they put on a new episode every week in Summer(or was that 16), there wasn't the same complaints, because you didn't have to wait 3-4 months to move a plot point.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 18, 2017 12:19:47 GMT -5
I actually rather like TTG, but goddamn that's absurd.
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Post by Malcolm on Dec 18, 2017 12:21:27 GMT -5
Shit like this is why I don't miss Cartoon Network.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 18, 2017 13:52:18 GMT -5
I find it very hard to put the blame on the Steven Universe crew for the show being slow when they don't control when the episodes air. When they put on a new episode every week in Summer(or was that 16), there wasn't the same complaints, because you didn't have to wait 3-4 months to move a plot point. Yea I look at it that way as well which is why I think should do the Adventure Time formula Adventure Time has smartly used their one week per every few months to just either do a mini arc that works with the whole story or do some world building They did the Finn/Fern mini arc for the week, Finn and his mom before that, Marceline vs the Vampires etc..
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Post by Powerline on Dec 18, 2017 14:45:55 GMT -5
Well, the scheduling of the show doesn't remotely help matters, but the core problem for me is with the writing itself - it genuinely feels like nothing happens 90% of the time and like all of the story that's come in seasons 3 through 5 could've been done in a single season if they'd just stop dragging everything out. It also doesn't really help my recent perception of the show that the Crystal Gems have been majorly on the backburner lately and I'm getting pretty tired of how everything bad needs to have a happy little spin on it at the end and no consequences for anything last for more than a handful of episodes. Though at least the show did finally introduce an actual outright villain. No idea when Aquamarine will actually show up again but she was appreciated while around. SU is a pretty heavy show enough as it is. I like how it tries to maintain a hopeful, positive spin in spite of what the characters are going through. The little small moments at the end of a lot of these episodes don't come off to me as "this thing didn't affect us " as it does them recollecting themselves. I dunno, I think it's dark enough for a main CN show. At least unlike TTG, Rebecca Sugar and crew try to write events that matter. I'm a little of Column A and B. I don't NEED every episode to be serious and filled with season/series-turning plot points, but there does seem like times where they dick around a little too much. Voltron; Legendary Defender on Netflix strikes the right balance for me (though also contains less episodes per season than SU, so that's worth considering too). But in previous seasons, episodes that seemed like throwaways ended up meaning something later. I mean, how many vitally important episodes did Lars play into before his big moment? The only one I can think of that might be kinda important was the one with the moss in the lake, and that was just for backstory on Steven's mom, which was at a premium at that time. As for the writing, I had read somewhere that they write with the idea that most episodes will be released in the "Steven Bomb" (god I hate that term) format or that they'll be released by the handful on the app (and if they ARE banking more on the app than on-air like some in this thread are hypothesizing, then doing it this way must be a positive, right?)
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Dec 18, 2017 15:01:19 GMT -5
I would rather watch the Christmas Story marathon on TBS over and over then watch that Teen Titans Go marathon
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 15:42:02 GMT -5
Boomerang died when they decided to use it as a dumping ground for their syndicated programs (The Garfield Show, Sonic Boom, Justice League Action) and moved all their classic shows to the app.
Though, if the previous regime wanted nothing but live action (the much hated CN Real), and this regime has a TTG boner, I hate what the next one has.
Really, I could trace all of the networks problems to the infamous Re-animated/Out of Jimmy's Head project. If that had never been greenlit, CN Real would have never happened.
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 18, 2017 16:01:43 GMT -5
At this point, Cartoon network is filler for Adult Swim /Toonami. This year was Cartoon Network 25th anniversary and they did nothing for it unlike adult swim and toonami whom did stuff for their anniversary this year too. Not that they dont have their problems. Yeah, they have a better schedule, but the only popular shows that they have are Rick and Morty and the Dragon Ball shows on Toonami, most everything else is ignored and gets low ratings, as opposed to the 2000s or even early 2010s when they had several popular shows.
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