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Post by Gummydavidson on Dec 22, 2017 18:59:52 GMT -5
Bull Dempsey and Bram decided to just show up and get drunk at a local wrestling promotion they were booked for.
Wasn't surprised about Bram but Bull disappointed me.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Dec 22, 2017 20:31:43 GMT -5
Bull Dempsey and Bram decided to just show up and get drunk at a local wrestling promotion they were booked for. Wasn't surprised about Bram but Bull disappointed me. Bull Fit Shit is the right way to describe these antics.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 22, 2017 20:58:24 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes is an adored figure but back in his day nobody will ever convince me that he didn't book himself on top. He also did petty bullshit when someone confronted him, like with Flair, he wanted to have Flair lose the belt to Rick Steiner in five minutes. Also what the f***? Firing Babydoll because she married a jobber Sam Houston?
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Post by corndog on Dec 22, 2017 22:21:13 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes is an adored figure but back in his day nobody will ever convince me that he didn't book himself on top. He also did petty bullshit when someone confronted him, like with Flair, he wanted to have Flair lose the belt to Rick Steiner in five minutes. Also what the f***? Firing Babydoll because she married a jobber Sam Houston? Ricky Morton shot on Dusty not too long ago. He said that Dusty would book the Rock N Roll Express on the smaller venues/towns so they couldn't make top dollar. He wouldn't let them main event the big shows and put himself on the main event for those shows to get the big payoffs. They said he was jealous of their popularity and as we all know, he would latch himself to more popular acts like the Rock N' Roll Express and Magnum TA to stay over. In a completely separate shoot, Ron Garvin confirmed everything Ricky Morton says.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 22, 2017 22:28:42 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes is an adored figure but back in his day nobody will ever convince me that he didn't book himself on top. He also did petty bullshit when someone confronted him, like with Flair, he wanted to have Flair lose the belt to Rick Steiner in five minutes. Also what the f***? Firing Babydoll because she married a jobber Sam Houston? Ricky Morton shot on Dusty not too long ago. He said that Dusty would book the Rock N Roll Express on the smaller venues/towns so they couldn't make top dollar. He wouldn't let them main event the big shows and put himself on the main event for those shows to get the big payoffs. They said he was jealous of their popularity and as we all know, he would latch himself to more popular acts like the Rock N' Roll Express and Magnum TA to stay over. In a completely separate shoot, Ron Garvin confirmed everything Ricky Morton says. He also punished Tully Blanchard for complaining to Jim Crockett about Dusty only caring about Dusty. Flair had issues with Dusty and Jim Crockett for years. Apparently they didn't smarted Ric that Ted Turner was only buying the company if Ric was part of the roster, not knowing this Ric negotiated a lower deal. Also recarding Dusty, I wonder if Dustin never got fired from wcw, would he have made his son a main eventer?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 22, 2017 22:33:51 GMT -5
You know what?
Andre. As beloved as he is by so many people in and out of the business, there's enough backstory to paint him as an incredibly unprofessional worker. He was, at best, casually racist, with both Kamala and Bad News Brown confronting him about racist remarks he'd said. He purposely attempted to intimidate co-workers into quitting, and could be excessively hostile towards those he felt threatened his spot. He often worked drunk.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Dec 22, 2017 22:46:04 GMT -5
You know what? Andre. As beloved as he is by so many people in and out of the business, there's enough backstory to paint him as an incredibly unprofessional worker. He was, at best, casually racist, with both Kamala and Bad News Brown confronting him about racist remarks he'd said. He purposely attempted to intimidate co-workers into quitting, and could be excessively hostile towards those he felt threatened his spot. He often worked drunk. He also let off a huge fart while sitting on Jake Roberts
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Dec 23, 2017 6:04:11 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes is an adored figure but back in his day nobody will ever convince me that he didn't book himself on top. He also did petty bullshit when someone confronted him, like with Flair, he wanted to have Flair lose the belt to Rick Steiner in five minutes. Also what the f***? Firing Babydoll because she married a jobber Sam Houston? Weren't those things from the notorious wrestling sleaze list? They perhaps need to be taken with a pinch of salt. However, I remember quite a lot of shoot interviews where wrestlers were less than complimentary about him, and have trashed him for holding down everyone in Florida, and for generally being a self-interested bullshitter.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 23, 2017 10:59:51 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes is an adored figure but back in his day nobody will ever convince me that he didn't book himself on top. He also did petty bullshit when someone confronted him, like with Flair, he wanted to have Flair lose the belt to Rick Steiner in five minutes. Also what the f***? Firing Babydoll because she married a jobber Sam Houston? Weren't those things from the notorious wrestling sleaze list? They perhaps need to be taken with a pinch of salt. However, I remember quite a lot of shoot interviews where wrestlers were less than complimentary about him, and have trashed him for holding down everyone in Florida, and for generally being a self-interested bullshitter. JJ Dilllon confirmed the Babydoll firing because of Sam Houston, Raven while discussing the sleaziest rumors with The Honky Tonk Man, said that Dusty told him that Babydoll was a top manager and shouldn't be seen publicly with jobber Sam Houston. The Rick Steiner destroying Flair was confirmed by Ric and Conrad Thompson.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 23, 2017 12:42:47 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes is an adored figure but back in his day nobody will ever convince me that he didn't book himself on top. He also did petty bullshit when someone confronted him, like with Flair, he wanted to have Flair lose the belt to Rick Steiner in five minutes. Also what the f***? Firing Babydoll because she married a jobber Sam Houston? To be fair, that's fairly standard stuff from back in the day. Think of all the guys who've got anywhere near the book, Dusty, Flair, Nash, HHH, they always end up on top and their enemies ended up depushed for SOME reason. Plus back when kayfabe was still a thing, I can see the point that a star shouldn't be seen with a jobber, as little real life sense as that makes.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 23, 2017 12:53:59 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes is an adored figure but back in his day nobody will ever convince me that he didn't book himself on top. He also did petty bullshit when someone confronted him, like with Flair, he wanted to have Flair lose the belt to Rick Steiner in five minutes. Also what the f***? Firing Babydoll because she married a jobber Sam Houston? To be fair, that's fairly standard stuff from back in the day. Think of all the guys who've got anywhere near the book, Dusty, Flair, Nash, HHH, they always end up on top and their enemies ended up depushed for SOME reason. Plus back when kayfabe was still a thing, I can see the point that a star shouldn't be seen with a jobber, as little real life sense as that makes. It was her husband... In a time after wrestling was exposed as fake.
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Futureraven: Beelzebruv
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 23, 2017 12:59:18 GMT -5
To be fair, that's fairly standard stuff from back in the day. Think of all the guys who've got anywhere near the book, Dusty, Flair, Nash, HHH, they always end up on top and their enemies ended up depushed for SOME reason. Plus back when kayfabe was still a thing, I can see the point that a star shouldn't be seen with a jobber, as little real life sense as that makes. It was her husband... In a time after wrestling was exposed as fake. It was, but it was still the 80s, where Hacksaw and Iron Sheik were fired for hanging out together, rather than a drug arrest, and the WWF was probably the least kayfabe driven company out there. I'm not saying it's not terrible, just that within the business, I can see the twisted logic.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Dec 23, 2017 14:36:40 GMT -5
Weren't those things from the notorious wrestling sleaze list? They perhaps need to be taken with a pinch of salt. However, I remember quite a lot of shoot interviews where wrestlers were less than complimentary about him, and have trashed him for holding down everyone in Florida, and for generally being a self-interested bullshitter. JJ Dilllon confirmed the Babydoll firing because of Sam Houston, Raven while discussing the sleaziest rumors with The Honky Tonk Man, said that Dusty told him that Babydoll was a top manager and shouldn't be seen publicly with jobber Sam Houston. The Rick Steiner destroying Flair was confirmed by Ric and Conrad Thompson. Interesting, didn't know about that, I'd taken the second one in particular to be some weird rumour that got out of hand. Then again, thinking about some of the trash he booked (like Lost In Cleveland, for instance) it's not outside the realms of possibility for him to book something like that.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 23, 2017 14:56:51 GMT -5
JJ Dilllon confirmed the Babydoll firing because of Sam Houston, Raven while discussing the sleaziest rumors with The Honky Tonk Man, said that Dusty told him that Babydoll was a top manager and shouldn't be seen publicly with jobber Sam Houston. The Rick Steiner destroying Flair was confirmed by Ric and Conrad Thompson. Interesting, didn't know about that, I'd taken the second one in particular to be some weird rumour that got out of hand. Then again, thinking about some of the trash he booked (like Lost In Cleveland, for instance) it's not outside the realms of possibility for him to book something like that. Flair and Dusty's relationship in the early 90s was anything but cordial. Flair even pointed out in his book that he believes Dusty was trying to undermine him during that time. Rhodes also had mouthed Flair in his rf shoot. More I've read books and watched shoots, I'm more convinced that Dusty Rhodes was a huge egomaniac that only cared about himself. The time Goldust imitated Dusty in raw, well the vignette shown before the match was Bruce Prichard imitating Dusty. The parts about making fun of him by claiming Dusty was a thousand time champion I think was to mock Rhodes's ego. And Bruce was Dusty's friend but he recently admitted that Dusty bragged that he was a genius and could turn off some people when they first met him.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 23, 2017 20:32:11 GMT -5
I think Heidenreich isn't an asshole, he's just a psycho. Masada is my favorite hybrid wrestler but I have to admit he's a locker room cancer. Masada is a woman abusing,drug addicted,homophobic piece of crap. Plus he is lazy as hell in the ring now. Relying more on his name than anything to get bookings. It's hilarious to me that Masada is even considered to have any name value. Randy Savage. There are those stories about how much of a psycho he was towards Elizabeth. There was his cringeworthy run in later era WCW where he was broken down, on the juice, and unsafe to work with. There was also his post wrestling phase where he was so bitter and delusional, every time he had a microphone anywhere near him, he'd challenge Hogan to a legit fight, ultimately resulting in that embarrassing rap album. His insane bitterness is also why he never went into the HoF during his lifetime. It's very rare to see fans point these things out. Being a smark favourite really has been a get-out-of-jail-free card for Randy. Also had seminars with Alex Shane - one where he talked for a few hours in ring psychology, took a shot at “Foley being a millionaire when he’s out of shape and can’t run the ropes”, paired us up and watched us have 5 minute matches, and made us uppercut brick walls for some reason. Wait, was he criticising current Foley? Like, in his 50s, old and injured Foley? Because Foley before he retired from full-time wrestling was most of the time actually in phenomenal condition, he just didn't look like he was.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Dec 23, 2017 21:37:39 GMT -5
What about Jerry Lawler breaking the jaw of both Paul Heyman and Jimmy Hart?
He has admitted that he intentionally did it to Heyman but has claimed it was an accident in Hart's case even though it came after King allegedly got hot about Hart's "what do you do with a horse that breaks its leg" comment.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 23, 2017 21:58:52 GMT -5
It was her husband... In a time after wrestling was exposed as fake. It was, but it was still the 80s, where Hacksaw and Iron Sheik were fired for hanging out together, rather than a drug arrest, and the WWF was probably the least kayfabe driven company out there. I'm not saying it's not terrible, just that within the business, I can see the twisted logic. Wasn't the whole story about Baby Doll's being fired not just "She married Sam Houston!" and more "She married Sam Houston INSTEAD OF DUSTY?" There's a world of difference between even "You are a big star, you can't be seen with a jobber!" and "You chose HIM OVER ME? You're fired!"
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 23, 2017 22:00:24 GMT -5
That was always the story
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Post by corndog on Dec 24, 2017 0:05:39 GMT -5
What about Jerry Lawler breaking the jaw of both Paul Heyman and Jimmy Hart? He has admitted that he intentionally did it to Heyman but has claimed it was an accident in Hart's case even though it came after King allegedly got hot about Hart's "what do you do with a horse that breaks its leg" comment. Hart said he doesn't think it was intentional. Hart thinks it just had to do with the fact that he was on crutches and hadn't thrown a punch in a while.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 24, 2017 4:46:40 GMT -5
It was, but it was still the 80s, where Hacksaw and Iron Sheik were fired for hanging out together, rather than a drug arrest, and the WWF was probably the least kayfabe driven company out there. I'm not saying it's not terrible, just that within the business, I can see the twisted logic. Wasn't the whole story about Baby Doll's being fired not just "She married Sam Houston!" and more "She married Sam Houston INSTEAD OF DUSTY?" There's a world of difference between even "You are a big star, you can't be seen with a jobber!" and "You chose HIM OVER ME? You're fired!" Ah ok, didn't know that bit of it, yeah that takes it to total scum levels.
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