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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 20, 2017 15:38:00 GMT -5
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 20, 2017 15:52:40 GMT -5
Gedo: f***ing no.
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Post by eJm on Dec 20, 2017 15:53:42 GMT -5
So I get the rebuilding of the relationship between them and NJPW (ignoring their status as a company, Anthem potentially cutting them at any minute etc) but...I don't understand why you're building so many relationships with companies in the same area at the size you are.
WWE working with ICW, PROGRESS, OTT and PCW (the latter two probably have less of a relationship) makes sense because you have bases covered. Scotland, North England, South England and both Irelands. ICW rarely goes into London, PROGRESS doesn't go into Scotland, OTT doesn't go outside of the Irelands and PCW's in Preston. Nobody clashes for the most part and you get each sector of audience and talent.
The thing with NOAH and NJPW is that they both perform in the same areas. The only real difference being NJPW is the only one that performs in the Tokyo Dome once a year so it seems a bit weirder to me. Same with CLASH and AAA, unless I'm getting my contexts wrong.
Another problem with TNA trying to establish these relationships is that, let's be honest, most of the talent on the roster right now are free agents. They aren't 100% signed and go to other indies across the country. There's no established roster really and the talent that could come down from NJPW would be better off performing with those same people in different avenues in front of a much more global audience. It'd be a lot better to make enough money to sign full-time talent, build those up, gain a relationship and genuinely build those matches as intriguing.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 20, 2017 15:53:51 GMT -5
Okada: Do I have to rainmaker a hoe?
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 20, 2017 16:19:51 GMT -5
And I want to hang out with Christina Ricci. I'll let you know how that works out sooner than Impact will have Tanahashi or Okada working any of their shows again.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 20, 2017 16:20:54 GMT -5
You're not a skidmark on Gedo's underwear, TNA.
Go away.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 20, 2017 16:29:21 GMT -5
TNA may want it all they want but what would New Japan get out of it? They've started their USA invasion, work with ROH in the US, work with CMLL in Mexico and are making inroads into Australia & the UK. New Japan gain absolutely nothing from the relationship
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Post by chrom on Dec 20, 2017 16:33:50 GMT -5
TNA may want it all they want but what would New Japan get out of it? They've started their USA invasion, work with ROH in the US, work with CMLL in Mexico and are making inroads into Australia & the UK. New Japan gain absolutely nothing from the relationship Exactly, there's nothing they want or can gain from this
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 20, 2017 16:47:38 GMT -5
Let me quote the current IWGP heavyweight champion.
"f*** TNA."
This isn't the New Japan that was close to bankruptcy during those years that needed tna, they actually are profitable now, they already have a semi developmental in ROH so they have a presence in the states. They don't need TNA's stench.
Their English announcer Cyrus is one of the bookers, so maybe in the future, but current tna is less than a piece of shit.
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 20, 2017 17:00:05 GMT -5
Well yeah, because working with a wrestling promotion that can't even get a building with working plumbing is totally a smart idea.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 17:27:26 GMT -5
This is like a really badly run public access channel trying to hit up HBO for a partnership.
A REEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY badly run public access channel.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 20, 2017 18:07:26 GMT -5
Have to figure this is connected to Callis working at Impact now and still announcing for NJPW. If they can make the case that the old regime that screwed over Okada or who did little to help develop Naito and Yujiro are out, then the potential at least exists for something to happen.
Problem is, of course, the main factors that have already been mentioned here: NJPW and NOAH are no longer working together, so what would each company have to say about such an arrangement? And yeah, NJPW doesn't have that much to gain from such a relationship, not unless they want to add a Canadian indy or what have you to their developing global network, something they don't necessarily need Impact's help to do.
So yeah, worth at least repairing the bridge, worth leveraging the relationships Callis and D'Amore might have, but hard to see much coming from the attempt.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 20, 2017 18:22:09 GMT -5
TNA is a f***ing parasite, and I hope New Japan is smart enough to stay away. Have to wonder now if this ties into them bringing in Don Callis at all and trying to get someone connected to reach out and try to make something happen. But there's legitimately nothing TNA can offer New Japan, and all the places that New Japan does ally themselves with have much more defined rosters and points to them. TNA couldn't even really support an excursion for anyone with their taping schedule.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 20, 2017 18:36:20 GMT -5
Gedo's response:
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 20, 2017 18:39:47 GMT -5
So I get the rebuilding of the relationship between them and NJPW (ignoring their status as a company, Anthem potentially cutting them at any minute etc) but...I don't understand why you're building so many relationships with companies in the same area at the size you are. WWE working with ICW, PROGRESS, OTT and PCW (the latter two probably have less of a relationship) makes sense because you have bases covered. Scotland, North England, South England and both Irelands. ICW rarely goes into London, PROGRESS doesn't go into Scotland, OTT doesn't go outside of the Irelands and PCW's in Preston. Nobody clashes for the most part and you get each sector of audience and talent. The thing with NOAH and NJPW is that they both perform in the same areas. The only real difference being NJPW is the only one that performs in the Tokyo Dome once a year so it seems a bit weirder to me. Same with CLASH and AAA, unless I'm getting my contexts wrong. Another problem with TNA trying to establish these relationships is that, let's be honest, most of the talent on the roster right now are free agents. They aren't 100% signed and go to other indies across the country. There's no established roster really and the talent that could come down from NJPW would be better off performing with those same people in different avenues in front of a much more global audience. It'd be a lot better to make enough money to sign full-time talent, build those up, gain a relationship and genuinely build those matches as intriguing. Yea, in the end Impact has really no talent of their own that would entice NJPW to even really enter another agreement with them much less forgive them after they botched their relationship before and did shit NJPW didn't want them to do Even if they offered to be a feeder system, NJPW has ROH in America for that
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 19:06:47 GMT -5
This is like the Springfield Isotopes trying to get a working agreement with the New York Yankees. What reason would New Japan even have to bother with this? They won’t get any more exposure.TNA doesn’t have any talent that they’d want to use. TNA is shitty.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Dec 20, 2017 19:20:56 GMT -5
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 20, 2017 19:27:33 GMT -5
Why would New Japan want to work with them? With how things are going with ROH better than anything they did with TNA, they would think about going to a low rate company like TNA who can't draw flies to manure at this point.
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Post by prettynami on Dec 20, 2017 19:49:34 GMT -5
They have literally nothing to offer in return to most wrestling companies around the globe - and that isn't even including how they have burned companies in the past. Why would anyone want to work with them at the moment?
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Post by Sparvid on Dec 20, 2017 19:56:18 GMT -5
So I get the rebuilding of the relationship between them and NJPW (ignoring their status as a company, Anthem potentially cutting them at any minute etc) but...I don't understand why you're building so many relationships with companies in the same area at the size you are. WWE working with ICW, PROGRESS, OTT and PCW (the latter two probably have less of a relationship) makes sense because you have bases covered. Scotland, North England, South England and both Irelands. ICW rarely goes into London, PROGRESS doesn't go into Scotland, OTT doesn't go outside of the Irelands and PCW's in Preston. Nobody clashes for the most part and you get each sector of audience and talent. The thing with NOAH and NJPW is that they both perform in the same areas. The only real difference being NJPW is the only one that performs in the Tokyo Dome once a year so it seems a bit weirder to me. Same with CLASH and AAA, unless I'm getting my contexts wrong. It's kind of like when Jarrett started Global Force and announced working agreements with NJPW and AAA, and I was like "Are either of those companies happy with this, seeing how NJPW already is working with CMLL?"
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