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Post by tankisfreemason on Dec 22, 2017 6:12:12 GMT -5
Having Daniel Bryan enter at No.10 in the Rumble, last about 10 minutes, then conveniently he's eliminated a few entrants before Roman Reigns joins the match. Like the crowd would just be like "Oh well, we've had our fill of Daniel Bryan. Let's go Roman Reigns!" EDIT: Not only that but they had two of the top heels (Rusev and Wyatt) eliminate Bryan just as an extra measure, and then had Big Show and Kane also eliminate all the other top guys the fans might want to win (Ambrose, Ziggler, Bray) leaving it all down to Reigns. And then they had The Rock show up and raise Roman's hand! Just going through all of this again really cements this being the most transparent lazy attempt I've ever seen WWE try to manipulate the crowd and get someone cheered. Also the part where Goldust was coming out after Bryan got eliminated, so the shot of him walking up the ramp says “Shattered Dreams” in the background.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 22, 2017 6:18:03 GMT -5
Pretty much the norm since 2001
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Post by Baby, it’s Jes outside on Dec 22, 2017 8:33:44 GMT -5
ANY time Stephanie makes an appearance. Are you saying you don't think she did invent feminism? Oh I'm surrre she did. But WWE still fails to distinguish heel heat from go away heat.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 22, 2017 9:43:47 GMT -5
ANY time Stephanie makes an appearance. Are you saying you don't think she did invent feminism? Everybody knows that Stephanie wrote the SCUM Manifesto!
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Dec 22, 2017 12:08:09 GMT -5
The whole situation between Hulk Hogan and Sid Justice. Sid eliminates Hogan at the Royal Rumble, then Hogan causes Sid to be eliminated. Somehow, Sid is the heel in all of this. Even as an 12 year old, I thought that was a bunch of shit.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 22, 2017 14:50:25 GMT -5
Billed Benoit "From Calgary Alberta, now residing in Atlanta Georgia" and Jericho "From Winnipeg Canada now residing in Manathhan New York"....
Vince we aren't stupid. We know they are Canadians eh?
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Post by Mama Rhodes Looking @ U Now on Dec 22, 2017 15:32:06 GMT -5
Billed Benoit "From Calgary Alberta, now residing in Atlanta Georgia" and Jericho "From Winnipeg Canada now residing in Manathhan New York".... Vince we aren't stupid. We know they are Canadians eh? I mean, I think they kinda spelled that one out for you.
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Post by bogey316 on Dec 22, 2017 17:27:05 GMT -5
I don't know if they have changed since, but on the Bludgeon Brothers's debut the commentators acted like Harper and Rowan were new superstars who had never been in WWE before. No they didn't.
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Post by unc40 on Dec 22, 2017 22:08:47 GMT -5
The Slammys because everyone know the fans have no decision on who wins those awards. The Bellas winning and thanking the fans for their support while the fans booed their heads off did give us a funny moment.
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Post by King Devitt: Scrum Guzzler on Dec 22, 2017 22:58:10 GMT -5
Vince- We listen to our fans. *continues booking Roman as a face* OK, Vince can be right as long as we use a different definition of fan. To us, fan being short for fanatic, is someone who likes a show, team, product, movie or some other entertainment medium. That's now what a fan is to them, I don't think. To them, someone who likes wrestling, whether WWE exclusively or everything, is not a fan. That person is part of their "audience" and to them their audience will never go away, never shrink, and never stop giving them money. A fan is part of the casual audience or non-viewer who will tune in to RAW or Smackdown, and it's them that they pursue. Moreoever, the "smark" towns, while absolutely central to their survival, towns like New York, Boston, Philly, Los Angeles, Chicago, and so on, they are already considered "audience". Thus, if they don't like something, it doesn't matter, because that's not who Vicne wants to target. Now, if Peoria hates it, then that matters, because they're not "audience", they're the "hey, WWE is in town, let's go check it out" audience that Vince sees as all important. So yes, they in one sense "listen to the fans" because the fans are only those who dont' already like or haven't ever liked the product. Once they reach that point, they are audience, and no longer matter. Which is funny to me Vince views us with such disregard or that the company sees us that way, because to me "Fan" means that it's because of us that Vince can even have 100 million dollars of stock to take out in the first place.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 23, 2017 3:02:38 GMT -5
I'm always surprised about responses on threads like this, because people often see this when it isn't there. I remember once, someone was talking all mad about how the WWE thought we were so stupid, because come on, like we can't tell that Hulk Hogan and Mr. America are obviously the same person?
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Post by mrtuesday on Dec 23, 2017 7:04:23 GMT -5
The whole situation between Hulk Hogan and Sid Justice. Sid eliminates Hogan at the Royal Rumble, then Hogan causes Sid to be eliminated. Somehow, Sid is the heel in all of this. Don't forget Monsoon on commentary. Going on how Sid robbed Hogan of regaining his title. This was that era where Monsoon justified everything Hogan did, no matter heelish it was.
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 23, 2017 8:47:12 GMT -5
The whole situation between Hulk Hogan and Sid Justice. Sid eliminates Hogan at the Royal Rumble, then Hogan causes Sid to be eliminated. Somehow, Sid is the heel in all of this. Don't forget Monsoon on commentary. Going on how Sid robbed Hogan of regaining his title. This was that era where Monsoon justified everything Hogan did, no matter heelish it was. To be fair, that was the altered audio version. WWE Network has restored the original version, where Hogan is being booed by the crowd.
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Post by cjh on Dec 23, 2017 9:02:01 GMT -5
Don't forget Monsoon on commentary. Going on how Sid robbed Hogan of regaining his title. This was that era where Monsoon justified everything Hogan did, no matter heelish it was. To be fair, that was the altered audio version. WWE Network has restored the original version, where Hogan is being booed by the crowd. The Network actually has both. The real version is on the 1992 Royal Rumble, and the edited one is on the Saturday Night's Main Event from a few weeks later.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 9:03:54 GMT -5
Billed Benoit "From Calgary Alberta, now residing in Atlanta Georgia" and Jericho "From Winnipeg Canada now residing in Manathhan New York".... Vince we aren't stupid. We know they are Canadians eh? I love the idea that they HAD to be American as faces because otherwise, they'd be evil and unlikeable, or something.
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 23, 2017 9:44:08 GMT -5
Billed Benoit "From Calgary Alberta, now residing in Atlanta Georgia" and Jericho "From Winnipeg Canada now residing in Manathhan New York".... Vince we aren't stupid. We know they are Canadians eh? I love the idea that they HAD to be American as faces because otherwise, they'd be evil and unlikeable, or something. Canadians are NOT evil and unlikable! That only applies to Quebec
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 10:01:22 GMT -5
The Slammys because everyone know the fans have no decision on who wins those awards. The Bellas winning and thanking the fans for their support while the fans booed their heads off did give us a funny moment. Literally every person who has been asked about these fan votes says they are legit.
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 23, 2017 11:27:49 GMT -5
My memory is really shit on this... but I seem to remember a match a week before a PPV where Cena (at least I think it was Cena) ended up in one of those heel-manager booked matches where it was 2 on 1. And one of the two guys Cena was wrestling; well, he was wrestling in a solo 1 on 1 match the next week on PPV. And after winning the 2 on 1 match CLEANLY they still had to sell that Cena was the underdog in the 1 on 1 match 6 days later. was that the one where cena beat the miz and r-truth in a 2 on 1 match about a week before he was supposed to team with the Rock to face them in a tag match? edit- and it looks like someone already said these a few posts later.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Dec 23, 2017 11:44:43 GMT -5
I don't know if this is WWE thinking fans are stupid or them being just tone deaf, but sending old man Lawler to the ring to get the fans to c'mon and do the Fandango together because its...fun(?).
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 23, 2017 11:49:04 GMT -5
The B+ thing with Daniel Bryan. Normally that wouldn't be inherently bad, because one could argue that a heel authority figure telling the fans that their hero wasn't worthy of being a star could simply motivate the fans to cheer even more for him, but it became very clear that this was WWE management's genuine view of the guy, and they only booked Bryan to prevail at WM reluctantly, to throw the fans their bone. Even after he won, they went right back to calling him B+ again, which completely defies all booking logic. It would be like Rocky beating Apollo for the title in Rocky II, only for Apollo to call him the Italian Chicken again afterwards. I'd put all the flying goat/troll etc...shit that JBL was instructed to say in the same category. WWE was clearly pissed off that Bryan had fan support and that it was ruining their preferred booking. Utter contempt for the audience. The summer of Punk was similarly sabotaged.
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