mrbananagrabber
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 27, 2017 13:34:19 GMT -5
I was reading about the history of pro-wrestling on Wikipedia and came across this, specifically the end bit about Vince.
At times a character may "turn", altering their face/heel alignment. This may be an abrupt, surprising event, or it may slowly build up over time. It almost always is accomplished with a markable change in behavior on the part of the character. Some turns become defining points in a wrestler's career, as was the case when Hulk Hogan turned heel after being a top face for over a decade. Others may have no noticeable effect on the character's status. If a character repeatedly switches between being a face and heel, this lessens the effect of such turns, and may result in apathy from the audience. Vince McMahon is a good example of having more heel and face turns than anyone in WWE history.
Now obviously anyone can edit Wikipedia, but is that even close to being true? Hasn't Big Show or Kane had more heel turns than Vince?
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Lancers
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Post by Lancers on Dec 27, 2017 13:39:30 GMT -5
Vince shapeshifts from face to heel all the damn time. Usually the fans treat him like a face everytime he comes back on screen, but will almost certainly go heel mid-promo. The only recent exception is the Owens stuff this fall.
I would say the face/heel turn count is at like 158 with him by now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 13:44:19 GMT -5
He isn't wrong.
Proof: WCW 2000
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Push R Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 27, 2017 13:47:25 GMT -5
Steph is going to surpass him. I've seen her turn face/heel multiple times in the same promo as she transitions from "Business/HISTORY/Mom Steph" to "Authority Steph" seemingly with reckless abandon.
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Post by PTBartman on Dec 27, 2017 14:07:22 GMT -5
Steph is going to surpass him. I've seen her turn face/heel multiple times in the same promo as she transitions from "Business/HISTORY/Mom Steph" to "Authority Steph" seemingly with reckless abandon. The Reckless Abandon Era. |
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Post by Toxik916 on Dec 27, 2017 14:09:51 GMT -5
Vince is just Vince. He's at the stage where he is beloved until he does something bad. He is a face until he wants you to hate him. He's like your racist sexist grandpa. You love him until he says something to piss you off.
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Post by Baby, it’s Jes outside on Dec 27, 2017 14:21:58 GMT -5
Steph is going to surpass him. I've seen her turn face/heel multiple times in the same promo as she transitions from "Business/HISTORY/Mom Steph" to "Authority Steph" seemingly with reckless abandon. At what point has Steph ever truly been a face? I'll wait. |
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 27, 2017 14:27:23 GMT -5
Steph is going to surpass him. I've seen her turn face/heel multiple times in the same promo as she transitions from "Business/HISTORY/Mom Steph" to "Authority Steph" seemingly with reckless abandon. At what point has Steph ever truly been a face? I'll wait. Um, the very last time she was on TV? |
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Dec 27, 2017 14:39:24 GMT -5
Steph is going to surpass him. I've seen her turn face/heel multiple times in the same promo as she transitions from "Business/HISTORY/Mom Steph" to "Authority Steph" seemingly with reckless abandon. At what point has Steph ever truly been a face? I'll wait. Her Smackdown GM run. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 14:43:57 GMT -5
Steph is going to surpass him. I've seen her turn face/heel multiple times in the same promo as she transitions from "Business/HISTORY/Mom Steph" to "Authority Steph" seemingly with reckless abandon. At what point has Steph ever truly been a face? I'll wait. When Triple H and Orton were feuding going into Mania. Her first appearances before the Triple H reveal. Smackdown GM run. |
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Post by Baby, it’s Jes outside on Dec 27, 2017 16:18:03 GMT -5
At what point has Steph ever truly been a face? I'll wait. Um, the very last time she was on TV? The only turn I’ll give Stephanie McMahon credit for is me turning the channel whenever she comes on tv. |
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Post by TGM on Dec 27, 2017 16:34:56 GMT -5
Um, the very last time she was on TV? The only turn I’ll give Stephanie McMahon credit for is me turning the channel whenever she comes on tv. I don't think anybody is arguing with you on this point. |
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mrbananagrabber
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 27, 2017 17:04:30 GMT -5
The only turn I’ll give Stephanie McMahon credit for is me turning the channel whenever she comes on tv. I don't think anybody is arguing with you on this point. I’ve finely honed my senses so I can recognise the opening seconds of her theme song so that I’ve changed the channel before I hear about her “Queen Dong.” |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 18:44:28 GMT -5
Vince need to put that goddamn powder blue WWF logo suit back on, pal. Insta-face!
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Post by Andy Martin on Dec 27, 2017 20:08:34 GMT -5
Vince need to put that goddamn powder blue WWF logo suit back on, pal. Insta-face! Or bring back the tuxedo. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 20:20:15 GMT -5
I don't think anybody is arguing with you on this point. I’ve finely honed my senses so I can recognise the opening seconds of her theme song so that I’ve changed the channel before I hear about her “Queen Dong.” I'd find her an unbearable buzzkill regardless but at least she wouldn't be as immediately, "Mute the TV," for me if her arrival weren't announced by her absolutely atrocious music. The sound of it just completely sucks the air out of the room. |
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