Kevin's Top 130 Matches of 2017: Match #1 Posted

[Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED!]

Jan 13, 2018 23:47:21 GMT -5 Gus Richlen: Ruffian said:

Jan 13, 2018 23:43:35 GMT -5 Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! said:

You mean "Very Large Testicles of Combustion"?

Yes, that show. It says a lot about how much I hated that name that I still won't call it by the correct one.

It's a shame, because it was a really good PPV until the main event. It just had a terrible name.

[The Kevstaaa]

Jan 13, 2018 23:30:07 GMT -5 Gus Richlen: Ruffian said:

What did you give to the three major Reigns vs. Strowman matches last year (Fastlane, Payback, and Terrible Name Based On An Old Song [still refusing to call it by its name])? I thought it was WWE's best feud of the year and the Golden Snowcone voting went for it as well.

Here's everything I had involving them against each other, except for SummerSlam, which made the list.

Last Man Standing: Braun Strowman vs. Roman Reigns - Raw 8/7 - ***1/2
Ambulance Match: Braun Strowman vs. Roman Reigns - GBOF - ***1/2
Braun Strowman vs. Roman Reigns - Payback - ***1/2
Braun Strowman vs. Roman Reigns vs. Samoa Joe - Raw 7/31 - ***1/2
Braun Strowman vs. Roman Reigns - Fastlane - **3/4
Steel Cage Match: Braun Strowman vs. Roman Reigns - Raw 10/16 - **3/4
Braun Strowman vs. Roman Reigns - Raw 3/20 - **

[ronnie2hotty]

Jan 13, 2018 21:45:47 GMT -5 The Kevstaaa said:

Jan 13, 2018 19:10:59 GMT -5 chazraps said:

Always love reading these, congrats again on another year!

Just curious, which ROH matches came closest to making the list?

These ROH matches got ***3/4.

Dragon Lee and Jay White vs. Volador Jr. and Will Ospreay - Supercard of Honor

I’m always really surprised by how much love this match gets. I was there live that night and I thought it was a complete spotfest that lacked any cohesiveness or psychology. Same goes with the main event tag ladder match. Admittedly, I haven’t watched it since seeing it live. To me, I absolutely LOVED the Cody/Lethal bullrope match and thought it was the best match of the show.

[AdamAFL was sooooo wrong]

Jan 14, 2018 12:32:12 GMT -5 ronnie2hotty said:

Jan 13, 2018 21:45:47 GMT -5 The Kevstaaa said:

These ROH matches got ***3/4.

Dragon Lee and Jay White vs. Volador Jr. and Will Ospreay - Supercard of Honor

I’m always really surprised by how much love this match gets. I was there live that night and I thought it was a complete spotfest that lacked any cohesiveness or psychology. Same goes with the main event tag ladder match. Admittedly, I haven’t watched it since seeing it live. To me, I absolutely LOVED the Cody/Lethal bullrope match and thought it was the best match of the show.

Yeah, I felt the same way about the Lee/White vs. Volador/Ospreay match - plus it was quite a sloppy match. Loved the main event personally though. Thought they told a tremendous story and it was one of my favourite matches of the year. Thought Cody/Lethal was very good too though and to me is easily Cody's best match since leaving WWE.

[ronnie2hotty]

Here are some interesting (and OCD) stats that I've compiled from Kevin's list:

Promotion breakdown - This is figured by giving a numerical score corresponding to the amount of stars given, then totaling the amount of points that each promotion earned. Note 1: I calculated this with NXT and WWE as separate entities. Note 2: if a promotion's title was defended in another promotion, it counted for the promotion the match took place in. For example, the WWE UK Championship was defended on NXT Takeover: Chicago, therefore, it counted as NXT, not WWE.

1. NJPW, 45 matches, 193 points
2. WWE, 21 matches, 88.75 points
3. PROGRESS, 20 matches, 83.75 points
4. NXT, 12 matches, 51.75 points
5. Evolve, 10 matches, 41.5 points
6. Dragon Gate, 6 matches, 25 points
7. PWG, 6 matches, 24.5 points
8. Lucha Und., 5 matches, 21.25 points
9. RevPro, 3 matches, 13 points
10. NOAH, 2 matches, 8.25 points
11. ROH, 1 match, 4.25 points
12. Stardom, 1 match, 4.25 points
13. Style Battle, 1 match, 4.25 points


Show breakdown - This is ranked by the star point totals that each card received. Here is the Top 10:

Rank - # of matches listed - Promotion - Card - date - Star rating totals
1. - 3 - NJPW - NJPW New Beginning in Osaka - 2/11/2017 - 13.5 points
1. - 3 - NXT - NXT Takeover: Chicago - 5/20/2017 - 13.5 points
3. - 3 - NJPW - Wrestle Kingdom 11 - 1/4/2017 - 13 points
3. - 3 - NJPW - G1 Climax - 7/17/2017 - 13 points
5. - 3 - WWE - SummerSlam - 8/20/2017 - 12.75 points
6. - 3 - Progress - Progress 55: Chase the Sun - 9/10/2017 - 12.5 points
7. - 2 - NJPW - NJPW G1 Special in USA Day 2 - 7/2/2017 - 9 points
7. - 2 - WWE - Hell in a Cell - 10/8/2017 - 9 points
9. - 2 - Progress - Progress 45: Galvanize - 3/19/2017 - 8.75 points
9. - 2 - NXT - NXT Takeover: Wargames - 11/18/2017 - 8.75 points

There were eight cards tied for the #11 position, all with two matches listed, all with 8.5 total points:
WWE UK Championship Tournament (Night Two)
NXT Takeover: Orlando
NJPW Wrestling Toyonokuni
Progress 49: Super Strong Style 16 (Night One)
NJPW G1 Special in USA Day 1
G1 Climax (7/21/17 show & 8/1/17 show)
NJPW Power Struggle


Wrestler rankings (Top 25):

1. Tomohiro Ishii, 55.75 points
2. Matt Riddle, 50.5 points
3. Tetsuya Naito, 44 points
4. Kenny Omega, 43.5 points
5. Keith Lee, 41.5 points
6. Pete Dunne, 38.5 points
7. Zach Sabre Jr., 38.25 points
8. Travis Banks, 38 points
9. Tyler Bate, 35.25 points
10. AJ Styles, 33.75 points
11. Hiromu Takahashi, 33.75 points
12. Hiroshi Tanahashi, 30.25 points
13. Trent Seven, 28.75 points
14. Kota Ibushi/Tiger Mask W, 26.25 points
15. Kazuchika Okada, 26 points
16. Ricochet/Prince Puma, 24.75 points
17. WALTER, 20.5 points
18. Katsuyori Shibata, 17.75 points
18. Akem, 17.25 points
18. Johnny Gargano, 17.25 points
18. Razr, 17.25 points
22. Dean Ambrose, 16.75 points
23. Penta El Zero M/Pentagon Dark, 16.5 points
23. Takehiro Yamamura, 16.5 points
25. Jimmy Uso, 13.25 points
25. Jey Uso, 13.25 points
25. Xavier Woods, 13.25 points

[TGM]

Can somebody tell me more about WALTER? I never heard of him until this list and he looks great.

[MrElijah]

Jan 12, 2018 23:16:55 GMT -5 The Kevstaaa said:

For anyone interested, here are my Match of the Year winners for every year of my life.

1990: United States Tag Team Championship: The Midnight Express [c] vs. The Southern Boys - The Great American Bash - ****½
1991: Retirement Match: Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior - WrestleMania VII - ****¾
1992: War Games: The Dangerous Alliancs vs. Sting's Squadron - WrestleWar - *****
1993: King of the Ring Semi-Finals: Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect - King of the Ring - *****
1994: Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - WrestleMania X - *****
1995: WWF Championship: Bret Hart [c] vs. British Bulldog - Season's Beatings - ****¾
1996: Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin - Survivor Series - *****
1997: Submission Match: Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin - WrestleMania 13 - *****
1998: WWF Championship Falls Count Anywhere: Steve Austin [c] vs. Dude Love - ****½
1999: ECW Television Championship: Rob Van Dam [c] vs. Jerry Lynn - Living Dangerously - ****½
2000: Last Man Standing: Chris Jericho vs. Triple H - Fully Loaded - *****
2001: WWF Tag Team Championship TLC Match: The Dudley Boyz [c] vs. Edge & Christian vs. The Hardy Boyz - WrestleMania X-Seven - *****
2002: WWE Tag Team Championship Tournament Final: Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle vs. Edge and Rey Mysterio - No Mercy - ****¾
2003: WWE Championship: Kurt Angle [c] vs. Chris Benoit - Royal Rumble - ****¾
2004: ROH World Championship: Samoa Joe [c] vs. CM Punk - Joe vs. Punk II - ****¾
2005: TNA X Division Championship: Christopher Daniels [c] vs. AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe - Unbreakable - *****
2006: ROH World Championship: Bryan Danielson [c] vs. KENTA - Glory by Honor V - *****
2007: ROH World Championship: Nigel McGuinness [c] vs. Austin Aries - Rising Above - *****
2008: ROH World Championship: Nigel McGuinness [c] vs. Bryan Danielson vs. Claudio Castagnoli vs. Tyler Black - Death Before Dishonor - ****¾
2009: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker - WrestleMania XXV - *****
2010: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker - WrestleMania XXVI - ****¾
2011: WWE Championship: John Cena [c] vs. CM Punk - Money in the Bank - *****
2012: IWGP Heavyweight Championship: Hiroshi Tanahashi [c] vs. Minoru Suzuki - King of Pro Wrestling - *****
2013: IWGP Heavyweight Championship: Kazuchika Okada [c] vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi - King of Pro Wrestling - *****
2014: NXT Championship: Adrian Neville [c] vs. Sami Zayn - TakeOver: R-Evolution - ****¾
2015: NXT Women's Championship: Sasha Banks [c] vs. Bayley - TakeOver: Brooklyn - *****
2016: NXT Tag Team Championship Two Out of Three Falls Match: The Revival [c] vs. #DIY - TakeOver: Toronto - *****
2017: WWE United Kingdom Championship: Tyler Bate [c] vs. Pete Dunne - TakeOver: Chicago - *****

I have to say, Sting had an underrated 1992, The matches with Vader, The WarGames match, vs. Cactus Jack at Beach Blast, various tag matches with the Dangerous Alliance. He had a good year.

[The Kevstaaa]

Jan 16, 2018 5:35:21 GMT -5 ronnie2hotty said:

Here are some interesting (and OCD) stats that I've compiled from Kevin's list:

Promotion breakdown - This is figured by giving a numerical score corresponding to the amount of stars given, then totaling the amount of points that each promotion earned. Note 1: I calculated this with NXT and WWE as separate entities. Note 2: if a promotion's title was defended in another promotion, it counted for the promotion the match took place in. For example, the WWE UK Championship was defended on NXT Takeover: Chicago, therefore, it counted as NXT, not WWE.

1. NJPW, 45 matches, 193 points
2. WWE, 21 matches, 88.75 points
3. PROGRESS, 20 matches, 83.75 points
4. NXT, 12 matches, 51.75 points
5. Evolve, 10 matches, 41.5 points
6. Dragon Gate, 6 matches, 25 points
7. PWG, 6 matches, 24.5 points
8. Lucha Und., 5 matches, 21.25 points
9. RevPro, 3 matches, 13 points
10. NOAH, 2 matches, 8.25 points
11. ROH, 1 match, 4.25 points
12. Stardom, 1 match, 4.25 points
13. Style Battle, 1 match, 4.25 points


Show breakdown - This is ranked by the star point totals that each card received. Here is the Top 10:

Rank - # of matches listed - Promotion - Card - date - Star rating totals
1. - 3 - NJPW - NJPW New Beginning in Osaka - 2/11/2017 - 13.5 points
1. - 3 - NXT - NXT Takeover: Chicago - 5/20/2017 - 13.5 points
3. - 3 - NJPW - Wrestle Kingdom 11 - 1/4/2017 - 13 points
3. - 3 - NJPW - G1 Climax - 7/17/2017 - 13 points
5. - 3 - WWE - SummerSlam - 8/20/2017 - 12.75 points
6. - 3 - Progress - Progress 55: Chase the Sun - 9/10/2017 - 12.5 points
7. - 2 - NJPW - NJPW G1 Special in USA Day 2 - 7/2/2017 - 9 points
7. - 2 - WWE - Hell in a Cell - 10/8/2017 - 9 points
9. - 2 - Progress - Progress 45: Galvanize - 3/19/2017 - 8.75 points
9. - 2 - NXT - NXT Takeover: Wargames - 11/18/2017 - 8.75 points

There were eight cards tied for the #11 position, all with two matches listed, all with 8.5 total points:
WWE UK Championship Tournament (Night Two)
NXT Takeover: Orlando
NJPW Wrestling Toyonokuni
Progress 49: Super Strong Style 16 (Night One)
NJPW G1 Special in USA Day 1
G1 Climax (7/21/17 show & 8/1/17 show)
NJPW Power Struggle


Wrestler rankings (Top 25):

1. Tomohiro Ishii, 55.75 points
2. Matt Riddle, 50.5 points
3. Tetsuya Naito, 44 points
4. Kenny Omega, 43.5 points
5. Keith Lee, 41.5 points
6. Pete Dunne, 38.5 points
7. Zach Sabre Jr., 38.25 points
8. Travis Banks, 38 points
9. Tyler Bate, 35.25 points
10. AJ Styles, 33.75 points
11. Hiromu Takahashi, 33.75 points
12. Hiroshi Tanahashi, 30.25 points
13. Trent Seven, 28.75 points
14. Kota Ibushi/Tiger Mask W, 26.25 points
15. Kazuchika Okada, 26 points
16. Ricochet/Prince Puma, 24.75 points
17. WALTER, 20.5 points
18. Katsuyori Shibata, 17.75 points
18. Akem, 17.25 points
18. Johnny Gargano, 17.25 points
18. Razr, 17.25 points
22. Dean Ambrose, 16.75 points
23. Penta El Zero M/Pentagon Dark, 16.5 points
23. Takehiro Yamamura, 16.5 points
25. Jimmy Uso, 13.25 points
25. Jey Uso, 13.25 points
25. Xavier Woods, 13.25 points

As always, you did fantastic work here. Thanks a million!

[MAGGLE]

All I have to say is that Shibata vs Okada is my favorite match of all time