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Post by Larryhausen on Dec 31, 2017 20:51:16 GMT -5
This. Sometimes I'll sneak out of work and go to one of the other bars on the street for a $3 PBR and a $7 shot of Jameson. In and out, 5 minutes. Half the time, my beer is comped, so I leave the full 15 bucks I was planning on leaving. Sometimes my shot is comped, so I leave ten bucks. Either way, bartender gets a $7 tip. A PBR when you're in Yuengling country? A bottle or draft Lager costs $4 or $5 at this bar. A 16 oz can of PBR is 3 bucks. Buck fitty on Wednesdays.
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Post by OldDirtyBernie on Dec 31, 2017 21:27:06 GMT -5
In keeping with the theme - Do you get especially aggravated, as I do, specifically with people in this industry who still don't tip well?
I tend to tip between 50-75%, but we don't eat out often.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 31, 2017 22:57:29 GMT -5
Ok, another question about tipping, if your restaurant offers take-out service, are you supposed to leave a tip for that? And if you are what's considered appropriate?
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Post by bob on Jan 1, 2018 11:08:39 GMT -5
I hated the restaurant I worked at for about a year and a half and my boss -- how can you stand working there? The money. Would you ask a stripper how she can stand working at a club? They call it work for a reason, but when you leave with $500 for 8 hours work the ends justify the means. heh, I made less than that every 2 weeks
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jan 1, 2018 11:20:53 GMT -5
In keeping with the theme - Do you get especially aggravated, as I do, specifically with people in this industry who still don't tip well? I tend to tip between 50-75%, but we don't eat out often. Restaurants need to do away with tipping and pay a livable wage. It's not the lack of tips but rather the super-low wages.
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Jan 1, 2018 15:08:43 GMT -5
In keeping with the theme - Do you get especially aggravated, as I do, specifically with people in this industry who still don't tip well? I tend to tip between 50-75%, but we don't eat out often. As long as they dont sit there talking about how they are "in the biz" ad nauseam and then leave less than 20% Im ok.
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Jan 1, 2018 15:14:50 GMT -5
Ok, another question about tipping, if your restaurant offers take-out service, are you supposed to leave a tip for that? And if you are what's considered appropriate? 10% of your takeout bill is fair I believe. Someone has to get it all together for you, double check its right, makes sure you have all the sauces and sides you asked for, plus cutlery and napkins. If you are getting $65 worth of take out it really shouldn't break your wallet to tip $6 Take out Beer? Were they polite and bagged it up for you? A buck or two Late night party restock and your grabbing alot? Chances are your state has a carry out limit of how many Ounces can be purchased in one shot. Cool bartenders will ring you up and either themselves will help you carry it out to your car or get a bar regular to give ya a hand. Situation like that, a $5'er is good kharma.
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Jan 1, 2018 15:15:48 GMT -5
The money. Would you ask a stripper how she can stand working at a club? They call it work for a reason, but when you leave with $500 for 8 hours work the ends justify the means. heh, I made less than that every 2 weeks Were you a cook there?
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Jan 1, 2018 15:23:00 GMT -5
In keeping with the theme - Do you get especially aggravated, as I do, specifically with people in this industry who still don't tip well? I tend to tip between 50-75%, but we don't eat out often. Restaurants need to do away with tipping and pay a livable wage. It's not the lack of tips but rather the super-low wages. Every time this mentality gets thrown out there I roll my eyes. Sandman you love the current model, believe me, even if you don't realize it. You love walking into a joint, paying $4 for a beer, $12 for your burger and fries and leaving your $3 tip. Thats all possible because your server/bartender is making $2.83 an hour. If they were getting even Federal minimum wage you'd walk in and pay $7 for your Miller Lite and $22.95 for your cheeseburger. I know in other countries you don't tip, they pay their service staff a higher wage, but their prices reflect it. Try to order Seafood in Berlin. Say a nice moderate cost fish like Cod. In America it would be like $22 for the dinner plate. In Germany it would be the equivalent of like $50 Our model works for America because we eat out at restaraunts on average much higher than other countries.
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Jan 1, 2018 15:24:28 GMT -5
A PBR when you're in Yuengling country? A bottle or draft Lager costs $4 or $5 at this bar. A 16 oz can of PBR is 3 bucks. Buck fitty on Wednesdays. Is the city wide still going?
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Post by Cyno on Jan 1, 2018 15:30:34 GMT -5
I'd personally pay a higher price for my food if it meant the restaurant staff was getting a fair wage.
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Jan 1, 2018 15:40:30 GMT -5
I'd personally pay a higher price for my food if it meant the restaurant staff was getting a fair wage. Well I can respect that. I do believe though that no server or bartender wants the fair wage since they make more under the current system.
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Post by Larryhausen on Jan 1, 2018 17:41:51 GMT -5
A bottle or draft Lager costs $4 or $5 at this bar. A 16 oz can of PBR is 3 bucks. Buck fitty on Wednesdays. Is the city wide still going? It is indeed. And as far as the wage thing goes, I've definitely contemplated moving to Seattle. I have two friends out there who both work in bars and could definitely get me a job, and Washington doesn't have server wage. They make State Minimum plus tips. So they make some BANK.
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Post by bob on Jan 1, 2018 17:57:30 GMT -5
heh, I made less than that every 2 weeks Were you a cook there? think much lower down on the totem pole
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jan 2, 2018 9:14:52 GMT -5
Restaurants need to do away with tipping and pay a livable wage. It's not the lack of tips but rather the super-low wages. Every time this mentality gets thrown out there I roll my eyes. Sandman you love the current model, believe me, even if you don't realize it. You love walking into a joint, paying $4 for a beer, $12 for your burger and fries and leaving your $3 tip. Thats all possible because your server/bartender is making $2.83 an hour. If they were getting even Federal minimum wage you'd walk in and pay $7 for your Miller Lite and $22.95 for your cheeseburger. I know in other countries you don't tip, they pay their service staff a higher wage, but their prices reflect it. Try to order Seafood in Berlin. Say a nice moderate cost fish like Cod. In America it would be like $22 for the dinner plate. In Germany it would be the equivalent of like $50 Our model works for America because we eat out at restaraunts on average much higher than other countries. Couldn't you just say in general instead of singling me out? I don't mind paying a little more if it means my server doesn't have to scrounge for tips from super-cheap assholes. I don't eat out much anymore anyway.
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Post by bootytea on Jan 2, 2018 10:37:53 GMT -5
Does every chef smoke? Watching Gordon Ramsay shows it seems like they all do. Ive never met one that doesn't. In fact, I don't trust people in this business that don't do at least one of the following, smoke, drink or get high. Restaurant work can be highly stressful. If you don't have a release, there is something wrong with you. Wow, that is such a ridiculously incorrect statement. Lol. I've worked I'm the industry for close to ten years, have worked as a sous and dealt with plenty of hot heads and stressful situations and have never drunk or used any recreational drug my whole life. I also haven't been sick for years. My girlfriend also works for one of the biggest restaurants in the city as a sous chef and will at most have two shots of vodka a year.. Drugs actually weaken you by masking the problem. There are much healthier ways to deal with the pressure in a way that's actually healthier. I don't care if people use drugs for fun, but to imply it is needed to succeed is an insane statement. Its the same as drinking coffee to stay up, its a silly habit that gets you hooked instead of just sleeping better or having a better diet. I've been reading through your thread and find your perspective interesting, but the industry definitely is changing for the better when it comes to drug abuse. It also helps that this old school mentality of running a kitchen like a military is slowly being replaced with treating people in a dignified manner.
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Jan 2, 2018 11:43:36 GMT -5
Every time this mentality gets thrown out there I roll my eyes. Sandman you love the current model, believe me, even if you don't realize it. You love walking into a joint, paying $4 for a beer, $12 for your burger and fries and leaving your $3 tip. Thats all possible because your server/bartender is making $2.83 an hour. If they were getting even Federal minimum wage you'd walk in and pay $7 for your Miller Lite and $22.95 for your cheeseburger. I know in other countries you don't tip, they pay their service staff a higher wage, but their prices reflect it. Try to order Seafood in Berlin. Say a nice moderate cost fish like Cod. In America it would be like $22 for the dinner plate. In Germany it would be the equivalent of like $50 Our model works for America because we eat out at restaraunts on average much higher than other countries. Couldn't you just say in general instead of singling me out? I don't mind paying a little more if it means my server doesn't have to scrounge for tips from super-cheap assholes. I don't eat out much anymore anyway. No offense intended. Didn't single you out maliciously
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 2, 2018 22:52:42 GMT -5
What are the “big money” jobs in your average restaurant really? For example I know in some industries salesman type jobs can actually make more than their bosses by getting commissions, tips, or excessive overtime.
Also, in your experience what has been the ballpark gross annual income of each kind of job in a restaurant (bartender, chef, waitress, etc.)?
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Post by MAGGLE on Jan 3, 2018 2:36:58 GMT -5
Why do you hate everyone that doesnt tip 20% like you know their background and why don´t you just complain to your boss about your low wage instead?
Honest question here from someone who isn´t in the US and where tipping is not normal. And btw: No you don´t pay that much money in Berlin, actually every single item is much cheaper than the US...and we don´t tip and have 8,50 minimum wage.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Jan 3, 2018 3:33:16 GMT -5
In Superman 2, what’s the deal with the plastic S Superman rips off his chest and throws at the bad guy?
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