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Post by Zen411 on Dec 31, 2017 5:40:17 GMT -5
So why is it that the first ever universal champion, finn balor, never lost the title but has not received a title shot since his return?
When he debuted on raw, he was a top draft pick ahead of many proven main eventers. He won a number one contender match and beat reigns and rollins. So what soured Vince and or wwe management on him? Why is he just "there" now instead of being marketed as a top star and a title contender? Not big enough? Not roman reigns? Would he be better off on smackdown or back in nxt?
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Post by BigAl on Dec 31, 2017 6:18:23 GMT -5
my guess is there was a moment where Vince wasnt paying attention so HHH made sure Finn got the push, then he got injured , was out,. which gave Vince and Dunn enough time to relalize Fin nisnt what they want in a top world champ mold (vanilla midget, has a accent, etc), and also marketing thought they can make money off the demon gimmick, but during injury the demon toys didnt sell (well yeah, he has been off tv for 9 month) so that too could be it.
i doubt he will do much on Raw, he can go to smackdown, but will they let him feud with AJ, or will road dogg make Finn job to Jindah and corbin and Ziggler all year?
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Dec 31, 2017 6:28:32 GMT -5
Finn isn't getting used right because Vince McMahon is a vindictive old man who doesn't know or care what'd be best in 2017.
Vince is old, behind the times and worthless. He should apologize for his failure to be valuable and then go play lowest tier football league owner for the rest of his life and never appear on WWE in any way shape or form ever again. Ever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 6:39:01 GMT -5
Related question, why does Cole not know how to pronounce extraordinary?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 31, 2017 6:56:09 GMT -5
So far none of the former Universal champions have received a rematch for the title, actually.
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Post by Main Event Mark on Dec 31, 2017 9:51:31 GMT -5
So far none of the former Universal champions have received a rematch for the title, actually. Was just about to post this. All former champions had different situations following their loss. Unless they're going to specify this title doesn't have an "automatic" rematch clause, it really doesn't make sense. |
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Post by Rican on Dec 31, 2017 10:06:25 GMT -5
I think it's as simple as them getting cold feet because he got injured when they put the title on him. They clearly had big plans for him at the start. I think he'll get another chance down the road.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 31, 2017 11:10:31 GMT -5
For one, he was out with injury for nearly a full year and by the time he got back the landscape had changed-that was to be expected-and he has been a tad out of place trying to find a slot to fit into since. But second I get the impression that his initial super push was Vince giving him the benefit of the doubt because Triple H shilled for him hard-but since then Vince has decided Balor just isn’t what he considers main event material. Part of it is undeniably Vince’s crush on Reigns, part of it is probably also that Balor isn’t the best on the mic despite his great look and in ring talent. And a third element is probably that Balor has yet to crack #1 in terms of merchandise sales, or am I incorrect about that? All those factors add up to where Balor is now.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 31, 2017 11:25:08 GMT -5
So far none of the former Universal champions have received a rematch for the title, actually. Was just about to post this. All former champions had different situations following their loss. Unless they're going to specify this title doesn't have an "automatic" rematch clause, it really doesn't make sense. Please Kurt, make this an official rule. If he does that the first raw of 2018 it'll remain the moment of the Year unless the mean street posse show up. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:25:14 GMT -5
If Rollins hadn't injured Balor he'd probably be in a much better spot on the card. There are other factors working against him being a permanent main eventer (size, mic skills) but that one incident was basically an automatic death knell.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:44:02 GMT -5
I think it's as simple as them getting cold feet because he got injured when they put the title on him. They clearly had big plans for him at the start. I think he'll get another chance down the road. Yeah and by the time he got back they had moved on to Roman/Brock for WM34. Throw in him getting a concussion in his first or second match back and Vince probably doesn't trust him on top. |
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Post by Zen411 on Dec 31, 2017 12:09:09 GMT -5
I think it's as simple as them getting cold feet because he got injured when they put the title on him. They clearly had big plans for him at the start. I think he'll get another chance down the road. Yeah and by the time he got back they had moved on to Roman/Brock for WM34. Throw in him getting a concussion in his first or second match back and Vince probably doesn't trust him on top. Hindered by jinder |
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Post by Juice on Dec 31, 2017 12:19:00 GMT -5
He will be running smackdown soon
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 31, 2017 13:59:09 GMT -5
Something something Kane
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Dec 31, 2017 19:25:48 GMT -5
1. Injury. Not his fault. Same move that retired Sting.
2. Concussion. Not his fault. It's other guys job to protect his opponent. Y'know the person delivering the move (See #1) Guy is rewarded with WWE Championship run.
3. But somehow it's Finn's fault and he can't be trusted as the top guy and isn't over.
4. Whateva.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Dec 31, 2017 19:41:52 GMT -5
Related question, why does Cole not know how to pronounce extraordinary? No no no. You don't understand. Finn is a extraordinary man who does extra ordinary things. Like play with Legos. |
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Post by schma on Dec 31, 2017 20:01:05 GMT -5
Given how after his injury Raw seemed to spend many months in a holding pattern with no real sense of direction, it seems that maybe Vince harbours a grudge for messing up his plans.
Also, the concussion after his return could have gotten him labelled injury prone. He wouldn't be the first guy to be given that label with no justification for it.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Dec 31, 2017 20:35:14 GMT -5
Pro sneezed on a snowcone around Vince or something
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 0:27:36 GMT -5
I'd still say he only got the title because Roman got a wellness strike.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 0:53:57 GMT -5
I want them to actually change his name to The First Ever Universal Champion now.
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