mizerable
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by mizerable on Jan 1, 2018 14:56:27 GMT -5
This is why I will never respect Vince or the rest of the McMahon family.
This shit is so carny. You'd think that WWE, the only name in town would evolve.
These idiots still need to be knocked down a peg.
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Nr1Humanoid
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jan 1, 2018 15:04:48 GMT -5
"You know something? I don't need this bullshit and Triple H's delusions of a standing ovation. I quit."
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Post by LexExpress on Jan 1, 2018 15:13:10 GMT -5
Being a WWE writer sounds so incredibly miserable. I’ve read horror stories on this board years ago. There was stuff like Stephanie chewing out a writer on the phone while later was at a funeral, Vince and Stephanie eating during meetings while the writing team had no food for themselves, and the whole HHH “am I f***ing going over” bit. Can I ask, what is the HHH story? I always see people quoting that, but I don't know where it comes from. |
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Post by héad.casé on Jan 1, 2018 15:24:21 GMT -5
I’ve read horror stories on this board years ago. There was stuff like Stephanie chewing out a writer on the phone while later was at a funeral, Vince and Stephanie eating during meetings while the writing team had no food for themselves, and the whole HHH “am I f***ing going over” bit. Can I ask, what is the HHH story? I always see people quoting that, but I don't know where it comes from. From what I remember, a writer took a script to Triple H's locker room, and instead of reading it, Triple H asked "Am I f***ing going over??". When the writer told him he wasn't, Triple H slammed the locker room door in the writers face and the finish was changed. |
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mizerable
Fry's dog Seymour
You're the lowest on the totem pole here, Alva. The lowest.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 1, 2018 15:27:31 GMT -5
Can I ask, what is the HHH story? I always see people quoting that, but I don't know where it comes from. There was a story that basically came down to someone laying out a storyline at one point and Triple H interrupting them by saying "Am I going over?" This happened sometime between 1998 and 2000. He was also quoted as saying "no more jobs". There's also the story where he didn't want his video game character representation being shown as weak in regards to promoting. I remember this being around the time of him going around sarcastically telling people that Jericho was going to"save" the business during his 2007 return. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 1, 2018 15:31:04 GMT -5
Can I ask, what is the HHH story? I always see people quoting that, but I don't know where it comes from. There was a story that basically came down to someone laying out a storyline at one point and Triple H interrupting them by saying "Am I going over?" This happened sometime between 1998 and 2000. He was also quoted as saying "no more jobs". There's also the story where he didn't want his video game character representation being shown as weak in regards to promoting. I remember this being around the time of him going around sarcastically telling people that Jericho was going to"save" the business during his 2007 return. The best thing about the video game representation was that Gamesmaster Magazine basically responded to that by having every image in their preview of one of the SDvR games essentially have HHH being beaten up in every shot. It was fantastic. |
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Jan 1, 2018 16:15:17 GMT -5
I listen to a bit of the interview and all I'll say is that Stockholm Syndrom is really fascinating.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 16:21:25 GMT -5
Why does WWE treat it's writers so shit? Surely it can't be that hard to realise if they treat them well, they might attract ones who A) stick around and B) ones who aren't shit and so desperate for work that they're willing to put up with WWEs nonsense because it's the only company who will hire them. I think its varying factors (some political, but won't go there), but a common issue I see is the ones who are quickly fired have extensive understandings of wrestling while those who last a long time don't know the difference between a suplex & a soufflé. I always have argued that Vince has an intense love/hate reputation with professional wrestling; it made him rich but it is one of the least glamorous forms of entertainment, so that's why he spent nearly 40 years doing everything to whitewash everything about wrestling (its sports entertainment, we have Superstars, etc.) in a feeble attempt to make it Madison Avenue friendly. That goes with his writers. An ignorant writer who was last seen writing spec scripts for The New Adventures of Old Christine is far more easier to mold than somebody who was a tape trader in his college days & can easily say "That sucks" or "I wouldn't recommended that" (unless he's Vince Russo & lives in another dimension) whenever something like Jinder Mahal as WWE Champion is pitched. This also can explain why the open hatred of hardcore fans is so obvious in the stories (obviously, the "This Is Your Life" segment last year), yet they eagerly bend over backwards at the smallest pablum from "outsiders" is offered. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 1, 2018 16:24:17 GMT -5
There's also the story where he didn't want his video game character representation being shown as weak in regards to promoting. Quoted directly from the press memo, which Power Slam magazine chose to publish: |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 1, 2018 16:31:10 GMT -5
I listen to a bit of the interview and all I'll say is that Stockholm Syndrom is really fascinating. I think it’s a bit unfair to the writer that just because he didn’t bury the f*** out of the company in this interview that he should be disregarded as “Stockholm Syndrome”. Maybe he just didn’t have as many issues there as most would think. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 1, 2018 16:33:35 GMT -5
There's also the story where he didn't want his video game character representation being shown as weak in regards to promoting. Quoted directly from the press memo, which Power Slam magazine chose to publish: Back to the GamesMaster article...one of the screenshots was HHH being shocked by his bloody face. |
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Post by joeiscool on Jan 1, 2018 16:53:52 GMT -5
Being overworked and jerked around through constant revisions and changed minds and sometimes rewrites hours before the show starts, where you don't get any substantial writer's credit for anything and no way to show professionally speaking your contributions to the show, where if you're a non-fan looking to give your career a boost you end up having little to show for it on your own and if you're a fan looking to work for WWE you're considered a mark and mocked for that fact? Yeah I legitimately don't know why anyone would want to take up this gig unless it is some real good pay relative to the rest of the industry. I don't even know if good pay would be worth it with how fast some of these writers end up leaving. I know there's been some who did it out of being fans of WWE (whether they're still fans afterwards is something I'd love to find out), but yeah, I'm not sure what the incentive is. I suppose if you're a writer on a TV show and your material isn't being used, maybe working on a live weekly TV show might be an exciting prospect, but the general bullshit of the wrestling business combined with Vince being actually crazy should put the kibosh on that. my guess is that it's a job with really low competition. Between wrestling not being a great use of talent of people who take writing seriously , to the high turn over, my guess is if you meet the requirements you probably get a job for a little while. |
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Jan 1, 2018 17:12:48 GMT -5
hiring and firing all these writers can't be cheap. Especially since they're most likely actually contracted employees who may mostly be union workers too if they're coming from other television backgrounds “Millionaire who should be a billionaire” |
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Post by britishbulldog on Jan 1, 2018 18:30:22 GMT -5
I understand Cena. I work at a car dealership, I don't bother learning new salesman names till they've been there a few months. Turn over is so high there's no point. I'm respectful to them but the turnover is a reality.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jan 1, 2018 19:38:22 GMT -5
I don't understand the people not bothering to learn peoples names. It takes very little effort to remember people's names.
My previous job was at a youth centre and part of my job was in charge of work placement be they from school, college or whatever and some of these was only a 2 week placement (some could be 6-8 months though) and I would have come across as a massive dick if I said on the first day, "hey I'm not going to bother knowing your name since you won't be here in two weeks anyway", I'm pretty sure my boss (who I got on with brilliantly) would have took issue with it. I haven't even took into consideration the amount of young people that come through the door.
To me it's all part of making somebody feel welcoming, of course of I can't remember a lot these people names 10-15 years later but like I said it took very little effort to remember peoples names while they worked with me
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 1, 2018 20:06:56 GMT -5
I understand Cena. I work at a car dealership, I don't bother learning new salesman names till they've been there a few months. Turn over is so high there's no point. I'm respectful to them but the turnover is a reality. Sure but it's being openly not respectful that's the problem here. Don't mention the turnover to someone and basically shit all over the idea you're going to put any thought to them ever. Or hell, even dance around it and mention the turnover in a way that isn't basically a declaration of "Hi I don't care". If the guy who's the main star of the show you write for is going to be that shitty in introducing himself to you, that's not starting things off right at atll. |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 1, 2018 20:22:25 GMT -5
I understand Cena. I work at a car dealership, I don't bother learning new salesman names till they've been there a few months. Turn over is so high there's no point. I'm respectful to them but the turnover is a reality. Sure but it's being openly not respectful that's the problem here. Don't mention the turnover to someone and basically shit all over the idea you're going to put any thought to them ever. Or hell, even dance around it and mention the turnover in a way that isn't basically a declaration of "Hi I don't care". If the guy who's the main star of the show you write for is going to be that shitty in introducing himself to you, that's not starting things off right at atll. Right. I take Cena's point, but he was really a douchebag in just going up to the guy and saying "Hey, I'm not gonna bother to do the bare minimum", essentially. |
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4TheGlory
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Post by 4TheGlory on Jan 1, 2018 20:25:35 GMT -5
Yes John because remembering names is just too much of a burden for your precious brain to retain. Asshole
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Jan 1, 2018 20:52:04 GMT -5
I listen to a bit of the interview and all I'll say is that Stockholm Syndrom is really fascinating. I think it’s a bit unfair to the writer that just because he didn’t bury the f*** out of the company in this interview that he should be disregarded as “Stockholm Syndrome”. Maybe he just didn’t have as many issues there as most would think. There's a part where he talks about being "hazed" for his first year there then immediately pivots to say it was understandable and their world so he's not upset about it. Then he talks about Vince humiliating him on live TV and laughs about it being a great rib. Not to mention how he justifies the way Cena treated him. |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jan 1, 2018 21:39:31 GMT -5
I can totally understand that culture, coming from eight plus years working in corrections, with an absurdly high turnover rate. While I never told any new guy that that said hi, I never made any effort to know who they were or care who they were for at least six months.
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