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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Jan 4, 2018 3:28:40 GMT -5
I have some questions. So I'm asking them.
Firstly, I still feel like I'm the most hated person on the forums. Is this true or not?
Secondly, why did everyone seem to think that I literally wanted to outlaw sex in my 'Should Sex be Outlawed' thread? I was speaking hypothetically and hyperbolically, but a lot of people in that thread seem to think that I'm some sort of lunatic who actually wants to ban sex...
Thirdly, does this forum have an agenda? Interpret that question as you wish.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 4, 2018 3:34:07 GMT -5
1. I doubt it. It's not like there's a vote anyway, so, who knows? 2. I dunno. 3. I dunno.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 4, 2018 3:34:07 GMT -5
Thirdly, does this forum have an agenda? Interpret that question as you wish.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Jan 4, 2018 3:43:17 GMT -5
1. I can't speak for the forum as a whole, but you're ok in my book (of course, your being a regular contributor to the Radio FAN thread probably doesn't hurt ). You do have a bit of a persecution complex, but that's not really a valid reason to dislike/hate someone. 2. People are very quick to jump to certain conclusions, especially on the internet, as typed words can be easily misinterpreted. That's why I prefer having actual conversations with people. Yes, misinterpretations can still happen, but it's definitely better than trying to guess the intentions of words that could be interpreted to mean anything. 3. No, but there are definitely certain groups of people that gang up on people with dissenting opinions, which even if I agree with their point of view, I'm not a fan of. I know that the mods try to keep these groups in check, but it's sometimes difficult to do unless a line is crossed.
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Post by Bobeddy on Jan 4, 2018 5:27:53 GMT -5
1. I doubt anyone on the forum hates you. Let me be upfront and say I've never felt vehemently angry at anything you've ever posted. Found them interesting? Disagreed at times? Certainly, yes. But anyone that I've seen on this forum that actually bothers me I've blocked so I don't have to see their posts and they can't message me. If that's happening with you, I recommend doing the same.
And if someone's life is so small that they actually do feel legitimate hate for you, you who to them are essentially a stranger with a cartoon avatar for a face on a forum where the sexual preference of 90's Nicktoon characters is a running joke, you should feel sorry for them.
2. Because sometimes people mistake someone playing Devil's Advocate with it being the person's true opinion. It happens to me in real life all the time. If I'm in a conversation where everyone's agreeing a point, I'll often take up the position of the opposing side and try to present an alternative view, just to get a bit more of a meaty discussion going. And even when I make it clear I'm just playing Devil's Advocate people sometimes still get upset to the point I have to go "You know I don't actually believe what I'm saying....I agree with you".
3. I honestly can't even begin to imagine what agenda this forum could possibly have?
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Jan 4, 2018 6:22:11 GMT -5
3. No, but there are definitely certain groups of people that gang up on people with dissenting opinions, which even if I agree with their point of view, I'm not a fan of. I know that the mods try to keep these groups in check, but it's sometimes difficult to do unless a line is crossed. I know, I've seen it as well, and it's one of the reasons I asked the question.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 4, 2018 6:55:04 GMT -5
1. Unlikely, but it does feel like you're setting yourself up for a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've seen you express this like a dozen times by now, and given you haven't been given confirmation, I have to ask if you're asking this in good faith, or if you want a certain outcome and keep asking to get it.
2. They thought that because you posted the question with zero context as to what you wanted them to take from it, then seemed to be trying to argue the point, so hypothetical or not, that seemed to be your horse in the race you were going with. No one took it that you were collecting signatures to introduce a bill or something, it was because you seemed to have a desired outcome.
3. Given that question's really damn broad, not much to say to it. If it's about the sex thread being locked, it was because you were getting mocked by the end of it, and the thread was mercy killed.
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Post by Kyn on Jan 4, 2018 7:00:26 GMT -5
I've lurked for years (it may well be a decade at this point, I was reading the boards back before they were renamed), and I don't think I've seen you post anything particularly objectionable. You certainly don't spring to mind when I think of posters I could do without. I've seen you post variations on this sentiment quite a bit though; is there something in particular that makes you feel this way? (And I thought the sex thread idea was fine; it's the internet, far stranger questions have been asked.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 7:20:13 GMT -5
1. No, but as Mozenrath mentioned, you seem to want this to happen.
2. You were defending the viewpoint and rejecting reasonable counter arguments.
3. Given the amount of disagreement and discussion that goes on with all topics between mods and mods, mods and members and members and members, no.
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Post by edgestar on Jan 4, 2018 11:51:50 GMT -5
1. Unlikely, but it does feel like you're setting yourself up for a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've seen you express this like a dozen times by now, and given you haven't been given confirmation, I have to ask if you're asking this in good faith, or if you want a certain outcome and keep asking to get it. 2. They thought that because you posted the question with zero context as to what you wanted them to take from it, then seemed to be trying to argue the point, so hypothetical or not, that seemed to be your horse in the race you were going with. No one took it that you were collecting signatures to introduce a bill or something, it was because you seemed to have a desired outcome. 3. Given that question's really damn broad, not much to say to it. If it's about the sex thread being locked, it was because you were getting mocked by the end of it, and the thread was mercy killed. Absolutely agree with all of this, and the outlaw sex thread, sparked numerous mock threads. I don't know how to say this, without it sounding offensive, but, MULTIPLE times, people here, have repeatedly said that they don't have a problem with you. Doesn't mean they hate you, it's just how they worded it. For example, if someone asks how me how I am, I will say "okay" or "alright", instead of "good", most of the time. It doesn't mean I feel like I have a cloud hanging over me, it's just how I say I'm doing well. The sex being outlawed thread, really didn't have much context to it, and you had a counter for a lot of responses in it. People are aware of the risks, and also aware of the protection available to them.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 4, 2018 11:52:27 GMT -5
1. No. However there seems go be a pattern where you make a thread that supports an arguement for a minority position. When members either point out flaws in the arguement or make alternate claims you seem to take it personally. Then you create threads where you say you hate yourself or asking if people hate you. As I said in prior thread you created please get some help. You don't need to and shouldn't go through life hating yourself.
2. Because you asked the question in a way that made it clear you were arguing for that position.
3. No
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Post by Frosty on Jan 4, 2018 12:06:50 GMT -5
1. Unlikely, but it does feel like you're setting yourself up for a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've seen you express this like a dozen times by now, and given you haven't been given confirmation, I have to ask if you're asking this in good faith, or if you want a certain outcome and keep asking to get it.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 4, 2018 12:18:07 GMT -5
I just don't understand why this is a constant stance you seem to have; do you actually feel like everyone hates you? Is it meant to be deprecating but not coming across the way you intend? It's difficult to understand why you're saying these things and, if it is out of a genuine feeling of worthlessness, it's something you gotta address in your day-to-day life. I don't hate you, I doubt anyone else here hates you, you're not hated.
And if I may, making a thread that's disliked, silly, or otherwise really doesn't reflect anything at all on you as a person. I'm pretty certain most people who post on any forum, not even just FAN, has made a thread or two in their time that either didn't go the way they intended or was a flat-out bad idea. It's the nature of a forum; new threads replace old ones and people move on. Your ideas in the "outlaw sex" thread were a bit odd, but it reached like, 8 pages or so and was interesting at least. It is what it is.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Jan 4, 2018 13:00:54 GMT -5
1. I don't think so? We had that one member who loved to stir the pot. I won't name names, but he seemed to be pretty disliked. When you mention it, you seem to want it to be that way.
2. When you first asked the question, you didn't offer up any details until later. Then you brought up points that rubbed people the wrong way.
3. Agenda? See this is where I think you're being vague and I think you're doing it on purpose. If you have something to say, say it.
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Post by edgestar on Jan 4, 2018 13:12:19 GMT -5
Nobody here, as far as I know, knows you other than through here. All we know of you, is what your opinion of other's ideas are, and that helps absolutely no one. It continues to hurt you, which no one wants, but it also bothers people when they are constantly hearing about why you shouldn't be liked, and they are going to speak up at times, though sometimes the comments can be worded in a less harsh way.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 4, 2018 13:56:19 GMT -5
Nobody here, as far as I know, knows you other than through here. All we know of you, is what your opinion of other's ideas are, and that helps absolutely no one. It continues to hurt you, which no one wants, but it also bothers people when they are constantly hearing about why you shouldn't be liked, and they are going to speak up at times, though sometimes the comments can be worded in a less harsh way. This is a great point to make with something like this; we only know what you decide to share. Don't feel like sharing a lot? Cool, you can still be an awesome poster who creates and contributes to discussion. Feel like sharing about your personal life? Awesome, appreciate your desire to share and hopefully we can help however we can. It's only ever as personal as you as an individual want it to be and assuming you're hated purely from comments on a forum just isn't true.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 4, 2018 16:23:45 GMT -5
I have some questions. So I'm asking them. Firstly, I still feel like I'm the most hated person on the forums. Is this true or not? Secondly, why did everyone seem to think that I literally wanted to outlaw sex in my 'Should Sex be Outlawed' thread? I was speaking hypothetically and hyperbolically, but a lot of people in that thread seem to think that I'm some sort of lunatic who actually wants to ban sex... Thirdly, does this forum have an agenda? Interpret that question as you wish. 1) I don’t really ever interact with you, but I also don’t ever see your username and go, “Ugh! Not this smurfing guy again!” I can’t imagine that anyone does, to be honest. This is not something I think you need worry about. 2) There is always something lost communicating through typed words. Intent does not translate well through that medium. 3) Of course there is an agenda. That’s why I never surf this site without wearing my trusty tin foil hat.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 4, 2018 19:13:19 GMT -5
I don't think there is a 'hated person' on this forum. Hell, the only person that ever brings up being hated is you. Incessantly. Like every thread. Sometimes every other post. When literally no one else has so much as alluded to it. While that's tiresome, it's not hate worthy.
The way you repeatedly acted as if there was no good argument to why sex shouldn't be outlawed, going so far as to suggest alternatives for reproduction such as needles in penises and calling sex 'dirty' made it seem like you were serious. Plus, it's a kooky idea from the premise given that there's literally no good reason/argument for such a premise. But most people were just taking the piss.
No there's no agenda. It's just a f***ing messageboard. People come on here to waste time/have some laughs. That's pretty much it.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 4, 2018 19:35:15 GMT -5
I have some questions. So I'm asking them. Firstly, I still feel like I'm the most hated person on the forums. Is this true or not? Secondly, why did everyone seem to think that I literally wanted to outlaw sex in my 'Should Sex be Outlawed' thread? I was speaking hypothetically and hyperbolically, but a lot of people in that thread seem to think that I'm some sort of lunatic who actually wants to ban sex... Thirdly, does this forum have an agenda? Interpret that question as you wish. 1.) No offense, but I barely take into account the majority of posters on this forum. There's a handful I really Like and less than a handful I cringe towards. 2.) I was bewildered lol..I've never in my life heard anyone even hypothetically posit such a notion except when it comes to the notion of celibacy or abstinence. 3.) Two words: Lizard People.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jan 4, 2018 19:54:29 GMT -5
1) You are well aware you're not hated, but since your previous strategy to get attention by constantly threatening to leave and bad mouthing yourself doesn't work anymore, you've shifted to the most hated person statement.
2) Your conduct in that thread gave no indication whatsoever that you weren't being serious.
3) You've already responded in this thread that you've seen some indications of an agenda, so you answered your own question.
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