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Post by xCompackx on Jan 4, 2018 20:00:16 GMT -5
For what it's worth, your thread on outlawing sex might've been more interesting as a "what if" kind of thing. Like, "What if sex was outlawed, what do you think would happen" or something. I think it was the implication that you meant it as a legitimate, real suggestion that caused the reactions. And, y'know, people having a bit of fun.
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Post by Jiren on Jan 4, 2018 20:07:19 GMT -5
1) There are some on this forum I despise with a passion but you're not one of em, Although your victim Complex is eye rolling at times.
Nobody hates you yet you have this constant thought that people do.....stop it
2) I only saw people taking the piss out of the concept
3) I don't think there's an agenda, Just a few overly whiny people make it seem that way
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 4, 2018 20:31:12 GMT -5
1) There are some on this forum I despise with a passion but you're not one of em, Although your victim Complex is eye rolling at times. Nobody hates you yet you have this constant thought that people do.....stop it 2) I only saw people taking the piss out of the concept 3) I don't think there's an agenda, Just a few overly whiny people make it seem that way Buttttt, Dooooooooooom! Sorry, that was my Jason Jordan impersonation.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 4, 2018 21:16:33 GMT -5
Butt Doom sounds like a threat honestly.
Run Carl!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 22:01:47 GMT -5
1. I don't think so, but I'm going to be honest. The fact that you keep asking questions like this is starting to make me not like you. I've told you before myself that you are just one of us and you refused to accept it. If you think we hate you, go away. If you want to be here, please, and I mean this as politely as possible, shut up about it already.
2. I don't know. Ask about it in that thread.
3. Our agenda is to have fun and be here for each other. And yes, that includes you.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 4, 2018 22:10:46 GMT -5
Butt Doom sounds like a threat honestly. Run Carl! You know it's a situation when someone pulls out a Butt Doom. Also, I'm sitting here wondering: if we did have an agenda, would it be a known one or like, a Hydra-type thing where there's a secret organization bent on ruling the forum? And if so, who's the leader?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 4, 2018 22:13:26 GMT -5
We're the Futuristic Order Of Lighting Slinkies.
That's the cult I came up with a few years back. I'm not the first fantasy writer to come up with a cult, I'm just the next one.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 4, 2018 22:16:37 GMT -5
Butt Doom sounds like a threat honestly. Run Carl! Also, I'm sitting here wondering: if we did have an agenda, would it be a known one or like, a Hydra-type thing where there's a secret organization bent on ruling the forum? And if so, who's the leader?Plot Twist: OP is leader.
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Post by Stu on Jan 4, 2018 22:17:29 GMT -5
I already told you guys a year ago that the forum does indeed have a secret. There was brief discussion, but it ultimately faded away with few people understanding the situation. So let me repeat: ... FAN is actually run by the Stonecutters!!!
Who makes sure there's a pig on top? Who keeps 'em using photoshop? We do! We do!
Who says to MS Paint all things? Who wants Batista as their king? We do! We do!
Who starts Local Men with Big Show? Who tells Lex Luger not ... to knooowww? We do! We do!
Who saves their gimmicks from the graves? Who says Christian has his slaves? We do! Weeee Doooooooo!!!!!!!
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Jan 5, 2018 2:22:30 GMT -5
1. Unlikely, but it does feel like you're setting yourself up for a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've seen you express this like a dozen times by now, and given you haven't been given confirmation, I have to ask if you're asking this in good faith, or if you want a certain outcome and keep asking to get it. 2. They thought that because you posted the question with zero context as to what you wanted them to take from it, then seemed to be trying to argue the point, so hypothetical or not, that seemed to be your horse in the race you were going with. No one took it that you were collecting signatures to introduce a bill or something, it was because you seemed to have a desired outcome. 3. Given that question's really damn broad, not much to say to it. If it's about the sex thread being locked, it was because you were getting mocked by the end of it, and the thread was mercy killed. 1. It's in good faith...I don't want to be banned, or to upset or offend anyone, but I'm always worried that I will/do. 2. Fair enough. 3. Yeah but I didn't find any of it offensive...in fact, quite a few of those responses in the thread made me actually laugh. And I don't usually laugh at anything I see on these forums. I've lurked for years (it may well be a decade at this point, I was reading the boards back before they were renamed), and I don't think I've seen you post anything particularly objectionable. You certainly don't spring to mind when I think of posters I could do without. I've seen you post variations on this sentiment quite a bit though; is there something in particular that makes you feel this way? (And I thought the sex thread idea was fine; it's the internet, far stranger questions have been asked.) Well I do try not to offend or upset anyone...just avoid the Metal thread. 1. No, but as Mozenrath mentioned, you seem to want this to happen. 2. You were defending the viewpoint and rejecting reasonable counter arguments. 3. Given the amount of disagreement and discussion that goes on with all topics between mods and mods, mods and members and members and members, no. 1. I don't. 3. Fair enough. 1. No. However there seems go be a pattern where you make a thread that supports an arguement for a minority position. When members either point out flaws in the arguement or make alternate claims you seem to take it personally. Then you create threads where you say you hate yourself or asking if people hate you. As I said in prior thread you created please get some help. You don't need to and shouldn't go through life hating yourself. 2. Because you asked the question in a way that made it clear you were arguing for that position. 3. No 1. Okay, I'm kind of confused about what you mean by a pattern of threads supporting 'minority positions'? I don't know what you mean by that, I can only think of the outlawing sex thread, and I wasn't intending for that to be literal. 2. Yes, because I wanted to have a discussion on whether or not outlawing sex would be a long-term benefit for society or not. I still wasn't intending to be literal. I just don't understand why this is a constant stance you seem to have; do you actually feel like everyone hates you? Is it meant to be deprecating but not coming across the way you intend? It's difficult to understand why you're saying these things and, if it is out of a genuine feeling of worthlessness, it's something you gotta address in your day-to-day life. I don't hate you, I doubt anyone else here hates you, you're not hated. And if I may, making a thread that's disliked, silly, or otherwise really doesn't reflect anything at all on you as a person. I'm pretty certain most people who post on any forum, not even just FAN, has made a thread or two in their time that either didn't go the way they intended or was a flat-out bad idea. It's the nature of a forum; new threads replace old ones and people move on. Your ideas in the "outlaw sex" thread were a bit odd, but it reached like, 8 pages or so and was interesting at least. It is what it is. I hate myself, and I do think that I'm worthless. That's nothing new though, because I've felt that way for years. As for why, it's personal and I'm not comfortable talking about it. 1. I don't think so? We had that one member who loved to stir the pot. I won't name names, but he seemed to be pretty disliked. When you mention it, you seem to want it to be that way. 2. When you first asked the question, you didn't offer up any details until later. Then you brought up points that rubbed people the wrong way. 3. Agenda? See this is where I think you're being vague and I think you're doing it on purpose. If you have something to say, say it. 1. I don't want it to be that way though. If I did, I wouldn't have made this thread. 2. I asked the question without any context because I thought it would come across as asking it neutrally...that didn't work, and I 'defended' the position in order to try and generate a discussion weighing up the pros and cons of outlawing sex...but that didn't work either. 3. I'm being vague on purpose, yes, because I'm asking generally. One reason is that some threads seem to have bias towards one position or another, and that makes it seem like the forums aren't unbiased and that they're secretly pushing an agenda. Nobody here, as far as I know, knows you other than through here. All we know of you, is what your opinion of other's ideas are, and that helps absolutely no one. It continues to hurt you, which no one wants, but it also bothers people when they are constantly hearing about why you shouldn't be liked, and they are going to speak up at times, though sometimes the comments can be worded in a less harsh way. Fair enough. Nobody here, as far as I know, knows you other than through here. All we know of you, is what your opinion of other's ideas are, and that helps absolutely no one. It continues to hurt you, which no one wants, but it also bothers people when they are constantly hearing about why you shouldn't be liked, and they are going to speak up at times, though sometimes the comments can be worded in a less harsh way. This is a great point to make with something like this; we only know what you decide to share. Don't feel like sharing a lot? Cool, you can still be an awesome poster who creates and contributes to discussion. Feel like sharing about your personal life? Awesome, appreciate your desire to share and hopefully we can help however we can. It's only ever as personal as you as an individual want it to be and assuming you're hated purely from comments on a forum just isn't true. Most of the time I don't share my opinions on things though, out of fear/intimidation/worry that I'll offend someone/anxiety etc. I have some questions. So I'm asking them. Firstly, I still feel like I'm the most hated person on the forums. Is this true or not? Secondly, why did everyone seem to think that I literally wanted to outlaw sex in my 'Should Sex be Outlawed' thread? I was speaking hypothetically and hyperbolically, but a lot of people in that thread seem to think that I'm some sort of lunatic who actually wants to ban sex... Thirdly, does this forum have an agenda? Interpret that question as you wish. 1) I don’t really ever interact with you, but I also don’t ever see your username and go, “Ugh! Not this smurfing guy again!” I can’t imagine that anyone does, to be honest. This is not something I think you need worry about. 2) There is always something lost communicating through typed words. Intent does not translate well through that medium. 3) Of course there is an agenda. That’s why I never surf this site without wearing my trusty tin foil hat. 1. Well I do worry about it. Every single time I post something here. 2. I guess. I don't think there is a 'hated person' on this forum. Hell, the only person that ever brings up being hated is you. Incessantly. Like every thread. Sometimes every other post. When literally no one else has so much as alluded to it. While that's tiresome, it's not hate worthy. The way you repeatedly acted as if there was no good argument to why sex shouldn't be outlawed, going so far as to suggest alternatives for reproduction such as needles in penises and calling sex 'dirty' made it seem like you were serious. Plus, it's a kooky idea from the premise given that there's literally no good reason/argument for such a premise. But most people were just taking the piss.No there's no agenda. It's just a f***ing messageboard. People come on here to waste time/have some laughs. That's pretty much it. See that's the thing...I thought it was fairly obvious that I wasn't being literal, and that my ideas of 'needles in penises' were purely exaggerated hyperbole. I guess I was wrong. I have some questions. So I'm asking them. Firstly, I still feel like I'm the most hated person on the forums. Is this true or not? Secondly, why did everyone seem to think that I literally wanted to outlaw sex in my 'Should Sex be Outlawed' thread? I was speaking hypothetically and hyperbolically, but a lot of people in that thread seem to think that I'm some sort of lunatic who actually wants to ban sex... Thirdly, does this forum have an agenda? Interpret that question as you wish. 1.) No offense, but I barely take into account the majority of posters on this forum. There's a handful I really Like and less than a handful I cringe towards. 2.) I was bewildered lol..I've never in my life heard anyone even hypothetically posit such a notion except when it comes to the notion of celibacy or abstinence. 3.) Two words: Lizard People. 1. I actually find it hard to keep track of posters here, as quite a few people here tend to change their usernames and avatars a lot. 1) You are well aware you're not hated, but since your previous strategy to get attention by constantly threatening to leave and bad mouthing yourself doesn't work anymore, you've shifted to the most hated person statement. 2) Your conduct in that thread gave no indication whatsoever that you weren't being serious. 3) You've already responded in this thread that you've seen some indications of an agenda, so you answered your own question. 1. I'm not attetion seeking though. And I don't know that I'm not hated, on the other forum I used to post on before I posted here, it turned out that a lot of people did hate me and would send private messages to each other expressing such things. 2. Well I thought it was obvious that I wasn't being literal... 3. If you say so? For what it's worth, your thread on outlawing sex might've been more interesting as a "what if" kind of thing. Like, "What if sex was outlawed, what do you think would happen" or something. I think it was the implication that you meant it as a legitimate, real suggestion that caused the reactions. And, y'know, people having a bit of fun. Well I did want to weigh up the pros and cons of outlawing sex, and the effect that outlawing sex would have on society as a whole...but that didn't happen. 1) There are some on this forum I despise with a passion but you're not one of em, Although your victim Complex is eye rolling at times. Nobody hates you yet you have this constant thought that people do.....stop it 2) I only saw people taking the piss out of the concept 3) I don't think there's an agenda, Just a few overly whiny people make it seem that way 1. What victim complex? 1. I don't think so, but I'm going to be honest. The fact that you keep asking questions like this is starting to make me not like you. I've told you before myself that you are just one of us and you refused to accept it. If you think we hate you, go away. If you want to be here, please, and I mean this as politely as possible, shut up about it already. 2. I don't know. Ask about it in that thread. 3. Our agenda is to have fun and be here for each other. And yes, that includes you. 1. Well I don't feel like 'one of you'. 2. That thread is locked. 3. I don't know how to have fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 4:17:44 GMT -5
I believe you when you say that you don't want to be hated, so could I make a request of you?
Everybody who has replied in this thread has said they don't hate you. Rather people are reaching out to try and help and encourage you. In other threads I and others have said we don't hate you.
I'm asking you to believe us. We don't know you, we gain nothing by sparing your feelings. If you said something and then people repeatedly questioned the veracity of it, you'd get frustrated, right?
Nobody here hates you. We're on record with that. Stop asking if we hate you, because we don't, but carrying on that way will rub people up the wrong way eventually. That doesn't mean people will hate you or dislike you from it, but it does mean people might start to give the short shrift. You have no reason to disbelieve us, so please don't.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Jan 5, 2018 4:57:17 GMT -5
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Because you got really defensive about it without a hint of irony or sarcasm? Seriously, go look at your own posts in that thread.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 5, 2018 5:00:00 GMT -5
I've never had a deep-seated problem with anything that you've posted. I've disagreed with points you've made, but I disagree with people I like here all of the time, it's no big deal. I'll admit I do know that feeling of feeling paranoid that you're annoying people. I've been afraid that I've angered or made people hate me in the past, be it because of something I said or coming on too strong in a debate. That sense of anxiety, I know it's real. But you also need to remember this is a large message board, so of course you're going to run into one or two people you might not instantly win over. That's life. And what "agenda" are you suspecting this forum of having? If we do have one, it's to mess around, have fun and support each other as friends. If you're talking about socio-political things, those are still banned here and that's not changing, so it isn't that by any stretch. Mozenrath has a point about this potentially being a self-fulfilling prophecy. The one thing I imagine people might be annoyed by is when you insist that everyone hates you, which we can't say enough isn't true at all. You need to give love back in order to receive it. I know that sounds cornball, but it's true.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jan 5, 2018 5:19:17 GMT -5
1. I don’t have the time or the energy to waste on hate. I don’t even know you. I’ve seen you around. I remember Sabu in your sig. Even if a poster hated me, it wouldn’t matter to me. What could they do? Type in all caps? Have at it. I have no idea if anyone is hated here. I wouldn’t worry about anyone hating me if I were you. Just saying.
2. I remember answering that question but I didn’t take it that seriously to be honest. I didn’t think you were either. It was just another silly type of post to me. Those are fun to answer sometimes.
3. Not that I’ve noticed. If it does, I’m not a part of it. Haha.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Jan 5, 2018 9:20:49 GMT -5
Maybe you should log out, and do something fun? If you aren't enjoying yourself, step away and come back at a later time. I've seen toxic forums and this isn't one of them. The WWE section is iffy at moments, but overall this place is pretty chill. I've been apart of my fair share of disagreements on the board. With the exception of one incident, I never took it personal. I'd suggest, if some of us disagreeing with you causes you to get anxious. It might be time to reevaluate why you feel this way and what you can do to improve your time here.
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Jan 5, 2018 9:49:13 GMT -5
I believe you when you say that you don't want to be hated, so could I make a request of you? Everybody who has replied in this thread has said they don't hate you. Rather people are reaching out to try and help and encourage you. In other threads I and others have said we don't hate you. I'm asking you to believe us. We don't know you, we gain nothing by sparing your feelings. If you said something and then people repeatedly questioned the veracity of it, you'd get frustrated, right? Nobody here hates you. We're on record with that. Stop asking if we hate you, because we don't, but carrying on that way will rub people up the wrong way eventually. That doesn't mean people will hate you or dislike you from it, but it does mean people might start to give the short shrift. You have no reason to disbelieve us, so please don't. Okay, fair enough. I've never had a deep-seated problem with anything that you've posted. I've disagreed with points you've made, but I disagree with people I like here all of the time, it's no big deal. I'll admit I do know that feeling of feeling paranoid that you're annoying people. I've been afraid that I've angered or made people hate me in the past, be it because of something I said or coming on too strong in a debate. That sense of anxiety, I know it's real. But you also need to remember this is a large message board, so of course you're going to run into one or two people you might not instantly win over. That's life. And what "agenda" are you suspecting this forum of having? If we do have one, it's to mess around, have fun and support each other as friends. If you're talking about socio-political things, those are still banned here and that's not changing, so it isn't that by any stretch. Mozenrath has a point about this potentially being a self-fulfilling prophecy. The one thing I imagine people might be annoyed by is when you insist that everyone hates you, which we can't say enough isn't true at all. You need to give love back in order to receive it. I know that sounds cornball, but it's true. I've disagreed with stuff you've posted as well, that's not a big deal to me. Even if I completely disagree with something I see someone post, I generally just say to myself 'I disagree' and I move on. As for the other stuff, fair enough. 1. I don’t have the time or the energy to waste on hate. I don’t even know you. I’ve seen you around. I remember Sabu in your sig. Even if a poster hated me, it wouldn’t matter to me. What could they do? Type in all caps? Have at it. I have no idea if anyone is hated here. I wouldn’t worry about anyone hating me if I were you. Just saying. 2. I remember answering that question but I didn’t take it that seriously to be honest. I didn’t think you were either. It was just another silly type of post to me. Those are fun to answer sometimes. 3. Not that I’ve noticed. If it does, I’m not a part of it. Haha. 1. Well it could end up like what happened with that other forum and the people that didn't like me there, one of them actually started messing with me outside the forum after they tracked down my accounts on other sites...and I don't want that to happen ever again. Maybe you should log out, and do something fun? If you aren't enjoying yourself, step away and come back at a later time. I've seen toxic forums and this isn't one of them. The WWE section is iffy at moments, but overall this place is pretty chill. I've been apart of my fair share of disagreements on the board. With the exception of one incident, I never took it personal. I'd suggest, if some of us disagreeing with you causes you to get anxious. It might be time to reevaluate why you feel this way and what you can do to improve your time here. As I've already said, I don't know how to have fun. And while I agree that this forum as a whole isn't toxic, it does seem to get that way in certain threads. For example, the thread in the WWE forum about WWE potentially bringing back Hulk Hogan, that turned into a toxic mess.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 5, 2018 10:22:55 GMT -5
1. I don’t have the time or the energy to waste on hate. I don’t even know you. I’ve seen you around. I remember Sabu in your sig. Even if a poster hated me, it wouldn’t matter to me. What could they do? Type in all caps? Have at it. I have no idea if anyone is hated here. I wouldn’t worry about anyone hating me if I were you. Just saying. 2. I remember answering that question but I didn’t take it that seriously to be honest. I didn’t think you were either. It was just another silly type of post to me. Those are fun to answer sometimes. 3. Not that I’ve noticed. If it does, I’m not a part of it. Haha. Not part of it yet.
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Post by Goldenbane on Jan 5, 2018 10:43:17 GMT -5
1. Everyone who's anyone knows that SuperSweet is by far the most hated and despised member on these forums. Seeing as how SuperSweet is also the most beloved and cherished member of these forums, take that as you will.
2. Dunno, I never participated in that thread.
3. As far as agenda...I've seen movies, and cartoons, and video games that have a definite agenda...and if this place has one, they are so subtle about it, I've never personally seen it.
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Post by Frosty on Jan 5, 2018 10:50:18 GMT -5
I have some questions. So I'm asking them. Thirdly, does this forum have an agenda? Interpret that question as you wish. What agenda do you believe exists?
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jan 5, 2018 12:47:45 GMT -5
1. I don’t have the time or the energy to waste on hate. I don’t even know you. I’ve seen you around. I remember Sabu in your sig. Even if a poster hated me, it wouldn’t matter to me. What could they do? Type in all caps? Have at it. I have no idea if anyone is hated here. I wouldn’t worry about anyone hating me if I were you. Just saying. 2. I remember answering that question but I didn’t take it that seriously to be honest. I didn’t think you were either. It was just another silly type of post to me. Those are fun to answer sometimes. 3. Not that I’ve noticed. If it does, I’m not a part of it. Haha. Not part of it yet. I’m not much of a joiner.
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