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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 5, 2018 17:19:41 GMT -5
If Bayley would just wear shorts the ride up into a wedgie Vince would probably be into her. Character might be harder to pull off but Vince would notice god damn pal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 17:46:52 GMT -5
Always thought Vince liked watching her get beat up, just like he did (or does) with Enzo.
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Post by chronocross on Jan 5, 2018 18:06:02 GMT -5
Yeah they had her out there looking stupid against Alexa and then that awkward interview segment with Corey Graves put the nail in her coffin as far as being taken as a top threat on Raw.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jan 5, 2018 18:15:14 GMT -5
If I was a stock holder in this company.. I would be seriously asking “dude, what the f***?’
They had a sure thing. And after a year in which female heroes have risen a lot in pop culture, WWE could have actually been ahead of the curve..
But no they f***ing ruin it, like most things they get their shit covered hands on.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 5, 2018 18:20:15 GMT -5
If I was a stock holder in this company.. I would be seriously asking “dude, what the f***?’ They had a sure thing. And after a year in which female heroes have risen a lot in pop culture, WWE could have actually been ahead of the curve.. But no they f***ing ruin it, like most things they get their shit covered hands on. Man you reminded me of that awful promo Bayley cut about how she saw Wonder Woman. Goddamn...Maybe promos like that killed the company's enthusiasm.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Jan 5, 2018 18:53:45 GMT -5
If I was a stock holder in this company.. I would be seriously asking “dude, what the f***?’ They had a sure thing. And after a year in which female heroes have risen a lot in pop culture, WWE could have actually been ahead of the curve.. But no they f***ing ruin it, like most things they get their shit covered hands on. Man you reminded me of that awful promo Bayley cut about how she saw Wonder Woman. Goddamn...Maybe promos like that killed the company's enthusiasm. They write it for her, they give her mostly garbage stuff and wonder why she's not white-hot like NXT. Idiots...
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 5, 2018 19:10:34 GMT -5
So Bliss is turning into a Local Girl and ruining things ?
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 5, 2018 19:18:56 GMT -5
As I said before, Bayley was the everywoman on NXT, but the female Eugene on RAW. This is because the WWE cannot understand why people would cheer for a geek, despite the rest of pop culture having embraced that ages ago. WWE think that Stephanie is the everywoman because she's a "strong working mom".
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 5, 2018 19:21:35 GMT -5
Man you reminded me of that awful promo Bayley cut about how she saw Wonder Woman. Goddamn...Maybe promos like that killed the company's enthusiasm. They write it for her, they give her mostly garbage stuff and wonder why she's not white-hot like NXT. Idiots... Too be fair. Her actual delivery leaves a lot to be desired too. The one time she pulled a bit of improv on the mic, the crowd booed her.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Jan 5, 2018 19:23:39 GMT -5
They write it for her, they give her mostly garbage stuff and wonder why she's not white-hot like NXT. Idiots... Too be fair. Her actual delivery leaves a lot to be desired too. The one time she pulled a bit of improv on the mic, the crowd booed her. I think if they would relax the scripting she would be fine.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 5, 2018 19:27:03 GMT -5
Too be fair. Her actual delivery leaves a lot to be desired too. The one time she pulled a bit of improv on the mic, the crowd booed her. I think if they would relax the scripting she would be fine. See, I don’t think so. Because she’s clearly nervous out there on the mic. Combine nerves with no net and it could be a baaaaad combination. Like I said, the one time she went alittle off the script in a promo she pretty much bombed it out and the crowd booed her like crazy.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Jan 5, 2018 19:32:19 GMT -5
I think if they would relax the scripting she would be fine. See, I don’t think so. Because she’s clearly nervous out there on the mic. Combine nerves with no net and it could be a baaaaad combination. Like I said, the one time she went alittle off the script in a promo she pretty much bombed it out and the crowd booed her like crazy. Could've just been a hostile crowd that night also.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jan 5, 2018 19:34:37 GMT -5
Super talented, super relatable, clearly actually ENJOYS working there, but f***, Vince can't pop a viagra to her, so she's useless, apparently. Vince blames millennials when he's the one holding them down.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jan 5, 2018 19:35:41 GMT -5
Vince McMahon is a shitty human being who belongs at the bottom of a landfill. His trailer was at the edge of a landfill when he was growing up in NC.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 5, 2018 19:38:48 GMT -5
See, I don’t think so. Because she’s clearly nervous out there on the mic. Combine nerves with no net and it could be a baaaaad combination. Like I said, the one time she went alittle off the script in a promo she pretty much bombed it out and the crowd booed her like crazy. Could've just been a hostile crowd that night also. Yeah but someone that knows how to promo well can take a hostile crowd and use it. Bayley awkwardly stumbled over her words and called out the crowd for booing her, not a good babyface thing to say. Take someone like Cena, who has turned crowd to his side with promos on more than one occasion. People always say that Bayley is the female Cena. A huuuuuuge part of the Cena game is his promo ability and Bayley ain’t even close.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Jan 5, 2018 19:39:24 GMT -5
See, in NXT, Bayley was the ultimate babyface because they saw her go from the star-struck hugging machine, to getting turned on by everyone in the book, to being overlooked, to her getting her redemption to finally getting the title to becoming the face of the entire division. The ride is what got her over, on the main roster she basically showed up, had a few matches, won the title, lost the title and all under the idea of "IT'S BAYLEY!!!!" With no story about why anyone should care about that fact. NXT is under the WWE umbrella, but is not the WWE. They play to a different set of fans and book accordingly so when they make the switch from NXT to WWE.... you'll get that initial OMG pop but after that, there needs to be a plan in place to keep up their momentum from the debut and in most cases... that just doesn't happen.
And the bottom line is this.... WWE can talk about a Women's Revolution all they want, but that's just a buzzword. The show is still overwhelmingly dominated by the guys. If there is room for more than one angle involving the women, it's amazing. So the storylines seem to center around Champion vs. New Challenger and the entire rest of the roster is ignored. With that, it's hard to keep momentum with someone when that's the booking philosophy.
If they've given up on her, send her back to NXT to get some of that fire back... get her involved with the process behind her own character development and booking and work on a way to reinvent the whole Bayley character. Emma was, pretty much, hated during her dancing-bubble phase and even more so when she aligned herself with Santino... but after the shoplifting incident and going back to NXT and developing the Evil Emma character, she actually started drawing some serious interest. I feel like Bayley's character is a very one-note character right now... when it works, it works very well, but a second run in NXT with tweaks to her character could give her enough life where once she got back to the main roster, she could make herself interesting regardless if she's the opponent of the month or not.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Jan 5, 2018 19:44:45 GMT -5
Could've just been a hostile crowd that night also. Yeah but someone that knows how to promo well can take a hostile crowd and use it. Bayley awkwardly stumbled over her words and called out the crowd for booing her, not a good babyface thing to say. Take someone like Cena, who has turned crowd to his side with promos on more than one occasion. People always say that Bayley is the female Cena. A huuuuuuge part of the Cena game is his promo ability and Bayley ain’t even close. In her defense, the booing and said awkward promo would have never happened if booked right. She had the same mic game on NXT and that worked amazing for her because the crowd was taught that Bayley's potential awkwardness is part of why you should love her. It's like a sort of Aw shucks kind of charm. The main roster crowds were never taught anything like that.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 5, 2018 19:50:30 GMT -5
This character we've written to be completely ineffectual and dumb isn't getting over like it should. Who knew?
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Post by Perd on Jan 5, 2018 19:53:41 GMT -5
Good old Vince. He’s probably having to be talked out of having Asuka job to Mandy Rose.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 5, 2018 19:53:55 GMT -5
You know, between her and Finn, I wonder what Hunter is telling the call-ups. It cannot be easy to see guys and gals that were super over get turned into nothing like this. Well her sort of admitted that Vince had been calling about Asuka for a min and HHH kept saying I need her so he tried to delay that as long as possible
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