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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 7, 2018 1:44:16 GMT -5
Have they ever been more vindictive and spiteful towards another person than they have Daniel Bryan? I have often wondered if they weren’t secretly relieved at the concussion diagnosis for giving them a reason to remove him as an active competitor. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 2:07:41 GMT -5
Have they ever been more vindictive and spiteful towards another person than they have Daniel Bryan? Warrior's "let's sell a DVD about how much he sucked" treatment is way up there. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 7, 2018 4:39:28 GMT -5
I'd rather be dead than be so soul-crushingly cynical as to stick around and give nothing a chance instead of walking away and finding something else that actually makes me happy. The constant negativity anymore is making me consider quitting the board. It really is. Ok you know what WWE can do to make people around here not negative and pessimistic? The right thing. Instead of actually having these predictions and doom charters for the most part COME TRUE, they can go against the grain and say "You know what? We aren't going to overbook this guy, we aren't going to slam this persons push into the ground that people like, give this Jobber a Push because of India and then a racist feud with this Asian Gentleman people like, how about the WrestleMania Feud these guys predict a year in advance comes completely true as it is said and as they say it and just bank on everything being cool for a year? This guy or girl who is incredibly over? Let's NOT capitalize on that! Let's break the next new toy in NXT and when they fail they can blame themselves in interviews when we give up on them, let's make things more about the moment than the substance of the story or the match to hide the fact we can't even write a cardboard outline for some people, etc. etc." Like I understand some of you guys aren't keen on the negativity, if you don't enter threads anymore because of it, but speaking personally here, I still like a lot about WWE, but I'm not just gonna put on a happy face and say "Oh well maybe this time they won't screw something up" and I'm not going to stop watching and supporting the wrestlers I wan't to support either, nor am I or others going to be sensitive to people who might not like those thoughts or viewpoints on a highly opinionated forum. We have Appreciation and Depreciation Threads, we have Polls, we have Discussions, we have Rants, all of these things made by myself and others, over one thing or the other, and while yes it's just a report, we take it at that face value and react accordingly, if it's not true, GOOD, all the better! But if it is, well then we've gotten it out of our systems and we can hang out heads when it happens and go "Well shit I knew it". What I'm trying to get at here is... I and others would love to be optimistic and we love the opportunities when we don't have to be cynical or pessimistic towards news, the product, pushes, decisions, etc. They happen, but when they don't, it happens, and I apologize if it gets on some peoples bad sides, but venting is something plenty of wrestling fans do, good or bad, and this board is one of the best places to do it. I'm glad to have it, and I personally don't want to drive anyone away because of some way I may feel or react, I just like expressing myself like anyone else, just like you do, like Roman Reigns, I'll hate him, doesn't mean you can't like him and express that, just like I express why I hate his direction and just can't understand the push. Just as how you don't care about that and just like the character, different outlooks, both completely fine and free to discuss without animosity. t's what a wrestling forum does, there will be people mad, people happy, people who don't know how to feel. The important thing to know is there is a reason behind every reaction, at least you hope so you'd hate for someone to be trolling or baiting to instill a reaction, and I hope that in the end people expressing their views doesn't drive people away, because in my opinion, that would be a sad fact. I'm critical on the company because I love Wrestling and I love and hope WWE can get their heads out of their ass and change, or I wouldn't care, I wouldn't post here, and I wouldn't discuss topics, I'd have given up on them, and in my opinion, it will be a sad SAD day if the day comes that I give up on something I have watched for over 20 years without fail... |
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Post by JCBaggee on Jan 7, 2018 4:57:05 GMT -5
Fans: We're going to boo Roman Reigns.
WWE: Well heels and faces aren't really a thing anymore, so whatever.
Fans: We really like Daniel Bryan.
WWE: Well why would you like that nerd, he's a heel and he doesn't even own a TV.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 5:03:45 GMT -5
I think it has to be way worse to be the guy that gets angry over people being angry than to just be that first level of angry. It's like, why the f*** do you care what those people think if you like it so much? Some people actually enjoy ranting about stuff. It's fun. That's pretty much half of the content on Youtube is just people taking the piss out of things.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jan 7, 2018 5:07:32 GMT -5
The constant negativity anymore is making me consider quitting the board. It really is. Ok you know what WWE can do to make people around here not negative and pessimistic? The right thing. Instead of actually having these predictions and doom charters for the most part COME TRUE, they can go against the grain and say "You know what? We aren't going to overbook this guy, we aren't going to slam this persons push into the ground that people like, give this Jobber a Push because of India and then a racist feud with this Asian Gentleman people like, how about the WrestleMania Feud these guys predict a year in advance comes completely true as it is said and as they say it and just bank on everything being cool for a year? This guy or girl who is incredibly over? Let's NOT capitalize on that! Let's break the next new toy in NXT and when they fail they can blame themselves in interviews when we give up on them, let's make things more about the moment than the substance of the story or the match to hide the fact we can't even write a cardboard outline for some people, etc. etc." Like I understand some of you guys aren't keen on the negativity, if you don't enter threads anymore because of it, but speaking personally here, I still like a lot about WWE, but I'm not just gonna put on a happy face and say "Oh well maybe this time they won't screw something up" and I'm not going to stop watching and supporting the wrestlers I wan't to support either, nor am I or others going to be sensitive to people who might not like those thoughts or viewpoints on a highly opinionated forum. We have Appreciation and Depreciation Threads, we have Polls, we have Discussions, we have Rants, all of these things made by myself and others, over one thing or the other, and while yes it's just a report, we take it at that face value and react accordingly, if it's not true, GOOD, all the better! But if it is, well then we've gotten it out of our systems and we can hang out heads when it happens and go "Well shit I knew it". What I'm trying to get at here is... I and others would love to be optimistic and we love the opportunities when we don't have to be cynical or pessimistic towards news, the product, pushes, decisions, etc. They happen, but when they don't, it happens, and I apologize if it gets on some peoples bad sides, but venting is something plenty of wrestling fans do, good or bad, and this board is one of the best places to do it. I'm glad to have it, and I personally don't want to drive anyone away because of some way I may feel or react, I just like expressing myself like anyone else, just like you do, like Roman Reigns, I'll hate him, doesn't mean you can't like him and express that, just like I express why I hate his direction and just can't understand the push. Just as how you don't care about that and just like the character, different outlooks, both completely fine and free to discuss without animosity. t's what a wrestling forum does, there will be people mad, people happy, people who don't know how to feel. The important thing to know is there is a reason behind every reaction, at least you hope so you'd hate for someone to be trolling or baiting to instill a reaction, and I hope that in the end people expressing their views doesn't drive people away, because in my opinion, that would be a sad fact. I'm critical on the company because I love Wrestling and I love and hope WWE can get their heads out of their ass and change, or I wouldn't care, I wouldn't post here, and I wouldn't discuss topics, I'd have given up on them, and in my opinion, it will be a sad SAD day if the day comes that I give up on something I have watched for over 20 years without fail... Couldn't agree with a post anymore than I do. I want wwe to succeed more than anyone. I love wrestling and I love the people that are currently in the company. If they were used correctly this would be a golden era for wwe. Unfortunately nothing is capatalized on it feels like and when that happens it deflates you. You ask yourself why support someone like Ziggler (who I feel is one of the biggest wasted talents) when they'll just make him feel like a bitch in every feud he's in? Why support Owens when Goldberg can just walk through the door and take a Wrestlemania main event out of nowhere? And yet despite everything they throw at you that angers you there'll be flashes of greatness that makes you forget about it all. Balor/AJ, NXT as a whole, Enzo killing it as champ, and so on. There's a lot to be negative about and it's something that has to be discussed. But it's not as if positivity isn't acknowledged on here as well. It's just that the bad outweighs the good currently in wwe. But that won't stop me from watching the Rumble coming up or Takeover or the Mix Match Challenge. Because there'll still be something I enjoy in all of those..... Even if I have to watch on mute sometimes lol. PS sorry if some of that sounds like rambling, very tired. |
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jan 7, 2018 7:26:36 GMT -5
I love this idea that people will boo him if he turns heel if this is true. He's like the biggest baby face in the last decade. His entire, entire thing was that fans rallied against of him in spite of, if not outright defiance of, the corporate machine. WWE trying to make Bryan a heel will blow up in their faces. They can't make Roman a face that isn't booed. They can't make Bryan a heel that isn't cheered. It's going to backfire so hard. As for the negativity/don't watch thing, I say what I always say to this- I don't, mostly, I've gone to NJPW. It's a long, long time since I've watched WWE regularly, the only show I've watched top to bottom since 2012 has been Wrestlemania and maybe a couple of other PPVS, perhaps 1 or 2 Raws. But New Japan, even with Wrestle Kingdom's unbelievable disappointment of a conclusion, the show was more enjoyable than anything I've seen from WWE in so very long, and the very next night immediately got me back on board 100% with their booking. WWE? Their booking is rarely satisfying, and rarely gives you confidence that even if X show didn't go like you hoped, there's a bigger, better plan in the future. They've burned me too many times to get properly invested anymore beyond a very, very casual following of what's happening. And it says a lot that I almost WANT this to be true and Bryan to leave. Because if he's really healthy enough to go, and wants to, then why as a fan would I want him to languish in WWE doing nothing? I don't want him to cripple himself, but if he's healthy enough to wrestle, of course I want him back. And I don't trust WWE to get it right anymore. It's been too long and too often that I've been disappointed by their product. |
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 7, 2018 9:00:57 GMT -5
I think it's people tiring of his TV presence, by way of his constant meddling since the first Styles/Owens feud last year. Even Stephanie hasn't been this involved in things this much in the same time period. Also,Shane was clearly being biased and trying to screw over. He lost to then , he lost the "feud". But he couldn`t accept it so started using his position of power.He was going to straight up not allow Sami and Owens to win and make then lose their jobs. He is doing some right things for the wrong reasons and bryan is doing some wrong things for the right reasons basically. Also, Bryan's probably still has a problem with Shane starting a war with RAW without consulting him first, which led to him getting his ass kicked when he attempted to smooth things over the next week. And now AJ Styles has been caught up in thier feud and he's probably pissed at them both. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 7, 2018 9:05:08 GMT -5
Also,Shane was clearly being biased and trying to screw over. He lost to then , he lost the "feud". But he couldn`t accept it so started using his position of power.He was going to straight up not allow Sami and Owens to win and make then lose their jobs. He is doing some right things for the wrong reasons and bryan is doing some wrong things for the right reasons basically. Also, Bryan's probably still has a problem with Shane starting a war with RAW without consulting him first, which led to him getting his ass kicked when he attempted to smooth things over the next week. And now AJ Styles has been caught up in thier feud and he's probably pissed at them both. Exactly. Shane didn’t even apologise for it considering what happened. F*** Shane. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 7, 2018 9:10:25 GMT -5
I'd rather be dead than be so soul-crushingly cynical.     It's not cynicism. It's just reality. Genuine question - why show up in the WWE Current forum at all then? If you're not watching, not going to watch, and think the product has been shitty for years, what benefit do you get out of it? Especially this particular thread. Just a place to focus some pre-existing anger? Enjoying being mad at the product (the latter of which I freely admit to, I actually crack up at the atrocious decisions sometimes)? I don't intend this as a flame or to get you to stop, I just don't understand what's in it for you to be mad all the time at a product you don't watch. As for this story, I totally buy that WWE could be this dumb and petty, but even Meltz has to be taken with a grain of salt. |
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 7, 2018 15:51:24 GMT -5
Have they ever been more vindictive and spiteful towards another person than they have Daniel Bryan? Warrior's "let's sell a DVD about how much he sucked" treatment is way up there. At least he was a total douchef*** who had a lot of that coming. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 16:17:17 GMT -5
WWE, Eazit's theaze Tweazenteazy-Feazirst Ceazenteazureazy. Neazobeazodeazy eazis beazuyeazing theaze ceazarneazey beazullsheazit eazaneazymeazoreaze. Leazove, Gremlin I just translated this. It said "Drink your Ovaltine". |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 16:28:34 GMT -5
If it wasn't for a few guys & seeing Jason Jordan beat up, I'd not watch. I don't follow NXT at all (nor do I care, honestly), I only follow TNA through spoilers to point & laugh, Sinclair dumped ROH off Comet for Kevin Sorbo's Space-Thrmed Wish Fulfillment Hour And Why Nobody Wants To Use His Lame Ass Anymore, meaning I have to go to ROH's website to check in. And I don't have a reliable internet connection.
Truth be told, I feel like I'm part of the problem. I can't stand this thing, yet I have the hardest time pulling away because it's everywhere. Luckily, I don't want the whole shows.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 7, 2018 16:34:37 GMT -5
Yeah this is a whole bunch of pettyness on the part of the 'e.
But if I could be honest about the division that goes on here........ It's really disheartening. This board isn't fun to post on often. People are more than entitled to like or not like something as much as they see fit. But I feel like people are being shamed are at the very least have their pov's get immediately dismissed if they don't see everything as a doomsday scenario. However, the "then don't watch" argument is kind of lame. I totally understand someone who is down on the product, continuing to watch. You just can't quit something you've been following for decades cold turkey. If you are a sports fan, do you stop being a fan of a team for a prolonged losing streak? As much as it pisses me off to see countless threads and posts of imo, hyperbolic negativity, it's pretty easy to ignore. If you can't initiate a civil debate with a dissenter, IGNORE THE POST/THREAD. Now That isn't hard.
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Post by PTBartman on Jan 7, 2018 16:41:28 GMT -5
I will cheer for Shane over Bryan. I literally, and I am using that word accurately, cannot understand why anyone would think Shane is the bad guy in the current storyline. I think it's people tiring of his TV presence, by way of his constant meddling since the first Styles/Owens feud last year. Even Stephanie hasn't been this involved in things this much in the same time period. Yeah, I don't see why anybody would think he's face. He's been so obviously anti Owens and then Owens and Zayne that I cheered out loud when Sammy ran in at HIAC, and I was alone. |
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Post by Fade on Jan 7, 2018 16:44:44 GMT -5
I'm also curious to those saying they're sick of the negativity the WWE gets here and considering leaving....is it really anymore positive anywhere else (in regards to the WWE)? Seems pretty consistent throughout most of the IWC to me. In fact this place is probably one of the safest to profess your like/dislike of the company considering the boards emphasis on its rules and guidelines.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 7, 2018 17:01:24 GMT -5
I'm also curious to those saying they're sick of the negativity the WWE gets here and considering leaving....is it really anymore positive anywhere else (in regards to the WWE)? Seems pretty consistent throughout most of the IWC to me. In fact this place is probably one of the safest to profess your like/dislike of the company considering the boards emphasis on its rules and guidelines. negativity in terms of anticipating the bigger picture/long term booking? more or less the same. negativity in terms of nitpicking every single segment/story/show? this place is rising to the forefront. but enough on this. this isn't what the thread is intended for. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 19:11:47 GMT -5
I'm also curious to those saying they're sick of the negativity the WWE gets here and considering leaving....is it really anymore positive anywhere else (in regards to the WWE)? Seems pretty consistent throughout most of the IWC to me. In fact this place is probably one of the safest to profess your like/dislike of the company considering the boards emphasis on its rules and guidelines. I agree with this. I know there are other forums that is a hell a lot more negative than here. |
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 7, 2018 19:52:57 GMT -5
Whenever this board, or YouTube, or news sites, or anything related to WWE or pro wrestling in general becomes too negative or cynical for my tastes, I just take a break for a few days, a week, whatever. I'm not going to change their minds and they're not going to change mine. All it does is create stupid, pointless arguments where people become needlessly nasty with one another. And the internet in general already has more than enough of that.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 7, 2018 20:00:35 GMT -5
Whenever this board, or YouTube, or news sites, or anything related to WWE or pro wrestling in general becomes too negative or cynical for my tastes, I just take a break for a few days, a week, whatever. I'm not going to change their minds and they're not going to change mine. All it does is create stupid, pointless arguments where people become needlessly nasty with one another. And the internet in general already has more than enough of that. The Board needs more closed captions threads and there would be nothing but peace  |
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