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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Jan 6, 2018 17:41:12 GMT -5
IMO, Rey Mysterio was just about due for a main event run, regardless of Eddiesploitation. I think it's unfortunate that they used Eddie's memory so much, because I think Rey could have been over without it.
The Rumble itself was okay for the most part. It's definitely noticeable that Mysterio does very little until the end. Judging the match based on that, I would have wanted RVD to win. I've always wondered if they had a backup plan in case Rey slipped and fell to the floor during one of his spots.
Viscera eliminating Matt Hardy was kind of a surprise. I'll admit that I always liked Viscera despite his limitations in the ring.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 6, 2018 17:49:52 GMT -5
I think RVD was featured well enough in that Rumble. It was a bit early in his return to have him win, but a Final 4 finish was fine. To be honest I don't think 2006 Rumble really had an obvious winner. RVD's build was quite solid in 2006 to be honest. Final 4 at Rumble, got to the finals of the WM tourney (though Big Show should have taken the pin there, since he was destined to do nothing while RVD was being built for MITB and the title scene), won MITB, won the IC, and finally cashed in and became both WWE and ECW champion.
Anyone else think it is time for Rey to go back to WWE and team with Finn Balor? They can be the Star Wars inspired tag team of Rey and Finn, haha.
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Post by Woo on Jan 7, 2018 2:41:36 GMT -5
If it weren't for Eddiesploitation, Haitch was probably going to win the rumble that year. I know I’m in the minority but I feel like if it wasn’t for eddiesploitation, he probably would still be considered on the same level as Kalisto. Pretty good luchadore, but not great on the mike. That's a crazy statement. Rey Mysterio pretty much changed wrestling forever, introducing highflying Lucha Libra to many an audience and influenced countless wrestlers. As for him being bad on the mic, well I'm so glad Lucha Underground has come along and shattered that feeling. The guy is pretty damn great and like John Morrison has really improved and silenced the critics. Also even without Eddie Rey would have eventually main evented. He came 4th the year before and was already about to break through. I think some need to rewatch that match, he easily did as much as HHH or at least rewatch 1993 to remind themselves of Backlund's ten minute nap. As far as Rumble performances go Kane in 2001 is by far the greatest. 50 plus minutes and he is working the entire time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 2:44:54 GMT -5
Roman will get around to it.
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Post by BigAl on Jan 7, 2018 3:48:38 GMT -5
I am surprised Roman has not beaten reys record. Didn't 2016 rumble Roman was layed out for most of the rumble then came back at the end isn't that longer than reys?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 5:09:49 GMT -5
I am surprised Roman has not beaten reys record. Didn't 2016 rumble Roman was layed out for most of the rumble then came back at the end isn't that longer than reys? That match was a full minute shorter than the 2006 one and Reigns was not in the final two, which means he still comes up a few minutes short of Rey. Last year Jericho spent a massive amount of time on the ground as well. I kept pointing it out because it got obnoxious. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 7, 2018 6:14:18 GMT -5
I am surprised Roman has not beaten reys record. Didn't 2016 rumble Roman was layed out for most of the rumble then came back at the end isn't that longer than reys? That match was a full minute shorter than the 2006 one and Reigns was not in the final two, which means he still comes up a few minutes short of Rey. Even WWE doesn't recognize Reigns as having worked the full Rumble. Jericho got credited as the Iron Man that year. |
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Post by TGM on Jan 7, 2018 6:17:09 GMT -5
Reigns shunning the stretcher and WALKING TO THE BACK LIKE A MAN only to return later in the match is still f***ing hilarious to me.
If you're such a man then why not get back in the Rumble?
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Post by A damn road sign on Jan 7, 2018 6:20:01 GMT -5
That match was a full minute shorter than the 2006 one and Reigns was not in the final two, which means he still comes up a few minutes short of Rey. Even WWE doesn't recognize Reigns as having worked the full Rumble. Jericho got credited as the Iron Man that year. #61MinuteMan |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 7, 2018 6:28:28 GMT -5
Even WWE doesn't recognize Reigns as having worked the full Rumble. Jericho got credited as the Iron Man that year. #61MinuteMan Well, he was only the 51 Minute Man that year. He might have had a shot if he drew #2 that year like he did the next year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 6:59:37 GMT -5
That match was a full minute shorter than the 2006 one and Reigns was not in the final two, which means he still comes up a few minutes short of Rey. Even WWE doesn't recognize Reigns as having worked the full Rumble. Jericho got credited as the Iron Man that year. How do they handle Austin and Vince the year they both just up and left for most of it? |
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Post by msc on Jan 7, 2018 7:07:20 GMT -5
Kane in 2001 is one of the all time Rumble standard bearer performances, yes, but a rather underrated one is Rock in 98. He is the backbone to that entire match, nearly always in the thick of things, and I'm convinced it was that performance that turned him backstage from "rookie with huge upside" to "star". Viscera eliminating Matt Hardy was kind of a surprise. I'll admit that I always liked Viscera despite his limitations in the ring. iirc, Matt Hardy was in the doghouse at the time. |
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Post by chronocross on Jan 7, 2018 7:50:28 GMT -5
Kane in 2001 is one of the all time Rumble standard bearer performances, yes, but a rather underrated one is Rock in 98. He is the backbone to that entire match, nearly always in the thick of things, and I'm convinced it was that performance that turned him backstage from "rookie with huge upside" to "star". Viscera eliminating Matt Hardy was kind of a surprise. I'll admit that I always liked Viscera despite his limitations in the ring. iirc, Matt Hardy was in the doghouse at the time. And not before Viscera takes him down with the Visagra move humping him on the mat, and the month before losing the feud to JBL at the December 2005 PPV. |
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Post by Kyn on Jan 7, 2018 8:14:58 GMT -5
Him being so inactive really cheapened it for me. I wish we could have seen what a Rey Mysterio push would have looked like at that time without the cause being Eddie's death. (For several reasons; I wish Eddie hadn't passed so young, and I really think Rey could have done great things without the mess that was Eddiesploitaton).
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 7, 2018 8:36:57 GMT -5
Reigns shunning the stretcher and WALKING TO THE BACK LIKE A MAN only to return later in the match is still f***ing hilarious to me. If you're such a man then why not get back in the Rumble? The thing that I love about this is that it's something Reigns can possibly actually be blamed for. A lot of Reigns' heat comes from his booking rather than anything he personally does, but I'm sure the rumour at the time was that they wanted to do a stretcher job with him and Reigns thought it would be better to walk to the back, so they let him - but that, as you said, makes him look like a complete goon. That match was a full minute shorter than the 2006 one and Reigns was not in the final two, which means he still comes up a few minutes short of Rey. Even WWE doesn't recognize Reigns as having worked the full Rumble. Jericho got credited as the Iron Man that year. A weird showing of logic by WWE there since Reigns was gone for like half an hour. If it weren't for Eddiesploitation, Haitch was probably going to win the rumble that year. I know I’m in the minority but I feel like if it wasn’t for eddiesploitation, he probably would still be considered on the same level as Kalisto. Pretty good luchadore, but not great on the mike. Honestly man, that's a pretty ridiculous statement. Rey's reputation was enormous before he ever signed to WWE, he changed the style of wrestling in North America (along with others, but Rey was definitely the chief innovator), he was hugely over for almost his entire career in mainstream professional wrestling, and as someone else said even the year before this Rumble he was in the final four in 2005. This Rumble is f***ing shocking, mind. I rewatched it the other day and I remembered it as being pretty good but it just isn't. So many guys in the ring, so few of them of any value, and even fewer doing anything interesting. Thank God Triple H was in there start to nearly finish because he at least kept the pace up somewhat. They really blew through a lot of the best spots in the first 10-15 minutes, loads of the bigger stars gone really quickly (Show, Kane, Flair), they got Lashley over huge without seeming to be overdoing it (the fans actually booed when he went out), and then suddenly it becomes the midcard Rumble. |
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Post by spagett on Jan 7, 2018 8:45:40 GMT -5
Rey was 100 times the star Kalisto is even before the Eddiesploitation stuff.
I mean I don't really like Rey that much but that is just undeniable.
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Post by jimwilliams on Jan 7, 2018 10:39:10 GMT -5
Reigns shunning the stretcher and WALKING TO THE BACK LIKE A MAN only to return later in the match is still f***ing hilarious to me. If you're such a man then why not get back in the Rumble? The thing that I love about this is that it's something Reigns can possibly actually be blamed for. A lot of Reigns' heat comes from his booking rather than anything he personally does, but I'm sure the rumour at the time was that they wanted to do a stretcher job with him and Reigns thought it would be better to walk to the back, so they let him - but that, as you said, makes him look like a complete goon. Even WWE doesn't recognize Reigns as having worked the full Rumble. Jericho got credited as the Iron Man that year. A weird showing of logic by WWE there since Reigns was gone for like half an hour. I know I’m in the minority but I feel like if it wasn’t for eddiesploitation, he probably would still be considered on the same level as Kalisto. Pretty good luchadore, but not great on the mike. Honestly man, that's a pretty ridiculous statement. Rey's reputation was enormous before he ever signed to WWE, he changed the style of wrestling in North America (along with others, but Rey was definitely the chief innovator), he was hugely over for almost his entire career in mainstream professional wrestling, and as someone else said even the year before this Rumble he was in the final four in 2005. This Rumble is f***ing shocking, mind. I rewatched it the other day and I remembered it as being pretty good but it just isn't. So many guys in the ring, so few of them of any value, and even fewer doing anything interesting. Thank God Triple H was in there start to nearly finish because he at least kept the pace up somewhat. They really blew through a lot of the best spots in the first 10-15 minutes, loads of the bigger stars gone really quickly (Show, Kane, Flair), they got Lashley over huge without seeming to be overdoing it (the fans actually booed when he went out), and then suddenly it becomes the midcard Rumble. Yes, I agree that he was “already” a well known superstar and was extremely innovative, but this is a WWE thread, and that’s what I’m focusing on. By the time he came to WWE his knees, were already degenerating pretty rapidly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 10:49:38 GMT -5
I was actually more pissed that, that rumble match was like 3rd on the card. Well, they had to do that stupid bit in the end where Undertaker "dismantled" the ring. |
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Post by Crimson on Jan 7, 2018 10:54:23 GMT -5
The thing that I love about this is that it's something Reigns can possibly actually be blamed for. A lot of Reigns' heat comes from his booking rather than anything he personally does, but I'm sure the rumour at the time was that they wanted to do a stretcher job with him and Reigns thought it would be better to walk to the back, so they let him - but that, as you said, makes him look like a complete goon. A weird showing of logic by WWE there since Reigns was gone for like half an hour. Honestly man, that's a pretty ridiculous statement. Rey's reputation was enormous before he ever signed to WWE, he changed the style of wrestling in North America (along with others, but Rey was definitely the chief innovator), he was hugely over for almost his entire career in mainstream professional wrestling, and as someone else said even the year before this Rumble he was in the final four in 2005. This Rumble is f***ing shocking, mind. I rewatched it the other day and I remembered it as being pretty good but it just isn't. So many guys in the ring, so few of them of any value, and even fewer doing anything interesting. Thank God Triple H was in there start to nearly finish because he at least kept the pace up somewhat. They really blew through a lot of the best spots in the first 10-15 minutes, loads of the bigger stars gone really quickly (Show, Kane, Flair), they got Lashley over huge without seeming to be overdoing it (the fans actually booed when he went out), and then suddenly it becomes the midcard Rumble. Yes, I agree that he was “already” a well known superstar and was extremely innovative, but this is a WWE thread, and that’s what I’m focusing on. By the time he came to WWE his knees, were already degenerating pretty rapidly. Umm, maybe you should dial back on all the revisionism. Rey was one of the main workhorses during the "prime" of Smackdown during the early to mid 2000s. A lot of his injuries didn't set in until after his title run. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 10:55:30 GMT -5
Wasn't this part of the reason they took the title shot off him for Orton? They panicked he wouldn't handle the top spot.
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