Is being Entry 2 in a Rumble worse than being Entry 1?

[Eunös ✈]

It's funny how WWE likes to make a big deal that being the Number 1 entry into a Royal Rumble is the worst thing possible and if you want to win it you got a long night ahead of you.

Yet being entry Number 2 isn't quite as big a deal despite the fact you have to go the same distance.

They always waffle on every year about how Shawn Michaels once won it from 1, and that other before he did his thing.

Yet they don't really mention Mysterio winning it from 2 or I guess Mcmahon (Even if he did spend most of the match away from the ring)

The only difference between these 2 numbers is the order you are introduced to the ring.

Personally I think drawing out 2 is worse than 1.. I mean think about it, You could get jumped on as soon as you enter making you easy pickings. 4 Times in Royal Rumble history, entry 2 has been eliminated 4 times before Entry 3 has come out.

Don't get me wrong Being Entry 1 has it's dangers.. Like in 2003 when Jericho came out only for it to be Christian, and Jericho attacked HBK from the other side.. and what is to stop Entry 2 running down and taking out Entry 1 as they are heading to the ring?.. Unless it's 2008 and you get disqualified

Either way Dolph Ziggler clearly agrees that Entry 1 is the safer option as he chose that over being Entry 2 back in 2013..

So do you think being entry 2 is slightly more of a disadvantage than being Entry 1 or not.. Or perhaps both are equally as a disadvantage as each other.

Do share

[CeilingFan]

in Kayfabe, it is the psychological factor. You have entered  the ring and 29 other superstars are coming after you.

[Shark]

When Rey was with the company, they'd almost always mention that he won from #2 and that the same number of people have won from the starting 2 positions. So they have before.

[rrg251]

This brings me to a suggestion I've had for several years: Why not just have two #1 positions? They're going to be tied at 00:00 for the time they enter the match, so why have the thankless #2 position at all?

[darthobiwan]

I think usually 2 goes out before 1 in rumbles, and about half of them 2 was the first one eliminated too.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Jan 13, 2018 0:07:24 GMT -5 rrg251 said:

This brings me to a suggestion I've had for several years: Why not just have two #1 positions? They're going to be tied at 00:00 for the time they enter the match, so why have the thankless #2 position at all?

Because one is not big enough to hold two. That’s why two was invented.

[xCompackx]

I mean, I could see how the earlier entrants could be easier targets from exerting energy trying to avoid eliminations, fighting off other entrants, and the exhaustion of just being in a match for how ever long they're in for, but I'd think once you get past, say, 10 entrants, numbers 1 and 2 would probably be safer than later ones. Sure, you could eliminate Jobber McJobberson as he's trying to recover his stamina, but your focus should probably be more on 3-10, plus the others coming later as they're more likely to try and eliminate you.

On the flip side, I wouldn't consider #30 to be all that great, outside of kayfabe. Yeah, you're as fresh as you're going to be, but you're also completely at the mercy of everyone else's efforts in terms of how many people are left in the ring and the one guy they'd probably want to target is the guy well-rested enough to start throwing out people.

Sorry, I like these kinds of topics, lol.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Jan 13, 2018 0:07:24 GMT -5 rrg251 said:

This brings me to a suggestion I've had for several years: Why not just have two #1 positions? They're going to be tied at 00:00 for the time they enter the match, so why have the thankless #2 position at all?

Because that's how numbers are?

[-Lithium-]

Two is at a disadvantage since number 1 is already in the ring and can get the jump on the guy when hes coming in...

[mrbananagrabber]

My biggest pet peeve with the Rumble and the promo after it, “I went through 29 other men..”

No, you didn’t, unless you came in at the start, you didn’t.

Gaaah.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Jan 13, 2018 5:36:22 GMT -5 -Lithium- said:

Two is at a disadvantage since number 1 is already in the ring and can get the jump on the guy when hes coming in...

also at #2 you know who #1 is.

when you pull #1 in theory you don't know who is coming out next until their music plays.

[Deleted]

If you asked me 5 years ago, I'd argue #3 was the worst spot. Yeah, Ric Flair won from that entry, but often, that would be a jobber or a guy quickly eliminated.

But, #2 seems to always get eliminated by #1 these days.

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Jan 13, 2018 10:27:36 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

My biggest pet peeve with the Rumble and the promo after it, “I went through 29 other men..”

No, you didn’t, unless you came in at the start, you didn’t.

Gaaah.

Here's another. When Kane beat up Carlito heading up to the 2006 Rumble, he said that was his first victim, and there's 29 more left.

Basic math means he wants to eliminate 30 people.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Jan 13, 2018 12:17:43 GMT -5 @jdogindy said:

Jan 13, 2018 10:27:36 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

My biggest pet peeve with the Rumble and the promo after it, “I went through 29 other men..”

No, you didn’t, unless you came in at the start, you didn’t.

Gaaah.

Here's another. When Kane beat up Carlito heading up to the 2006 Rumble, he said that was his first victim, and there's 29 more left.

Basic math means he wants to eliminate 30 people.

It was good enough for Macho Man!

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Jan 13, 2018 12:21:52 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

Jan 13, 2018 12:17:43 GMT -5 @jdogindy said:

Here's another. When Kane beat up Carlito heading up to the 2006 Rumble, he said that was his first victim, and there's 29 more left.

Basic math means he wants to eliminate 30 people.

It was good enough for Macho Man!

To be fair, logic often escaped Macho Man at the Rumble. Who will forget he was the first no-show, or how he accidentally eliminated himself, or most famously, that pinfall attempt?

[HMARK Center]

I say have #1 enter by themselves, and then make them spend the first two minutes doing Hindu squats and jumping jacks until #2 enters.

[segaz]

Jan 13, 2018 0:07:24 GMT -5 rrg251 said:

This brings me to a suggestion I've had for several years: Why not just have two #1 positions? They're going to be tied at 00:00 for the time they enter the match, so why have the thankless #2 position at all?

They should just call the first two "co starters" and make call the next entrant the 3rd entrant.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

See I always wanted a comedy guy like Santino to fall out of the ring as number 1 before number 2 came out and was eliminated that way

[karl100589]

Jan 13, 2018 0:32:40 GMT -5 xCompackx said:

I mean, I could see how the earlier entrants could be easier targets from exerting energy trying to avoid eliminations, fighting off other entrants, and the exhaustion of just being in a match for how ever long they're in for, but I'd think once you get past, say, 10 entrants, numbers 1 and 2 would probably be safer than later ones. Sure, you could eliminate Jobber McJobberson as he's trying to recover his stamina, but your focus should probably be more on 3-10, plus the others coming later as they're more likely to try and eliminate you.

On the flip side, I wouldn't consider #30 to be all that great, outside of kayfabe. Yeah, you're as fresh as you're going to be, but you're also completely at the mercy of everyone else's efforts in terms of how many people are left in the ring and the one guy they'd probably want to target is the guy well-rested enough to start throwing out people.

Sorry, I like these kinds of topics, lol.

It's the same reason I hate the commentary team hyping up monster heels ala Big Show. If you're the biggest and tallest man in the match the likelyhood of everyone teaming up to get you out increases.

[Nic Nemeth]

#1 doesn't know who #2 is but #2 knows who #1 is. You're already prepared to face them when you head to the ring, even if they try to sneak attack you, you know the refs will try to separate you until the bell rings so you can prepare for that as well.