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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 15, 2018 0:28:31 GMT -5
Even if Punk doesnt win the Rumble, let him be in the last 2. Don't let it be Dave in my opinion. Maybe this leads to him staying somehow. The Rumble likely had very little to do with Punk leaving. He had an eye on the exit long before that, what with the medical stuff and being passed over for one WrestleMania main event too many and such. |
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Jan 15, 2018 0:29:54 GMT -5
Even if Punk doesnt win the Rumble, let him be in the last 2. Don't let it be Dave in my opinion. Maybe this leads to him staying somehow. The Rumble likely had very little to do with Punk leaving. He had an eye on the exit long before that, what with the medical stuff and being passed over for one WrestleMania main event too many and such. Yeah probably. Just wishful thinking on my part. |
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Jan 15, 2018 2:13:18 GMT -5
2014 Rumble I found annoying.
2015 Rumble legitimately pissed me off to the point I was talking back to Vince McMahon through my TV.
That's the difference for me.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 15, 2018 6:21:56 GMT -5
The people saying Punk was justified in walking out of the Rumble based on his treatment in the match are being ridiculous. If everyone walked out whenever they got put in a feud they didn't like or had to job nobody would ever wrestle. Punk went nearly an hour and got eliminated by the guy they wanted him to feud with him. They weren't trying to bury Punk, they just didn't know what they were doing.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jan 15, 2018 6:49:01 GMT -5
Match wise 2015 was the worst.
However Roman winning it didn't bother me as much as Batista winning.
I really could have done without Batista winning the 2014 one, It was 4 years since he last wrestled a match and he didn't seem in the best of shape either..gassed out very quickly.
Atleast Roman was a first time winner..
This might be an unpopular opinion but if it were up to me, Winning the Royal Rumble would be something you can only ever achieve once in your career.
I hate the fact that 4 of the last 5 Rumbles are repeat winners..enough.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 15, 2018 7:06:43 GMT -5
2014 was entertaining, IMO. And, unlike 2015, they still had a chance to make it right after #30. Had they called an audible, and let Roman win, the crowd would have been good with it.
2015 was just a giant middle finger to everybody, and stomping on fans' hopes. You want Bryan? Sorry, he's getting dumped unceremoniously. You like Bray's run in the Rumble? He's getting tossed by Big Show and Kane. You guys pop for Dolph and Ambrose? They're sacrificed at the altar of Big Show and Kane. You will cheer Roman, because he eliminated all the guys that eliminated the guys you cheered.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 15, 2018 12:46:07 GMT -5
2014 was entertaining, IMO. And, unlike 2015, they still had a chance to make it right after #30. Had they called an audible, and let Roman win, the crowd would have been good with it. No he they wouldn't have. Roman got cheered because he was the only guy left in the ring who wasn't Batista. Nobody thought he was going to win and nobody really wanted to see him take what they believed to be Daniel BRyan's spot either. People realized it was Batista's match and once they clued into that they were just angry; it's why they not only booed Rey coming out, but cheered him getting thrown. 2014 was the rumble where it was legitimately 'Bryan or bust' and Roman getting cheered was nothing but audience revolt. |
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Post by JCBaggee on Jan 15, 2018 12:57:46 GMT -5
2014 was entertaining, IMO. And, unlike 2015, they still had a chance to make it right after #30. Had they called an audible, and let Roman win, the crowd would have been good with it. No he they wouldn't have. Roman got cheered because he was the only guy left in the ring who wasn't Batista. Nobody thought he was going to win and nobody really wanted to see him take what they believed to be Daniel BRyan's spot either. People realized it was Batista's match and once they clued into that they were just angry; it's why they not only booed Rey coming out, but cheered him getting thrown. 2014 was the rumble where it was legitimately 'Bryan or bust' and Roman getting cheered was nothing but audience revolt. This. Everyone misinterprets those Roman cheers now, but he was only a face in that brief moment because he wasn't Batista, and he wasn't stealing a spot the fans felt belonged to Bryan. Kinda wonder how much that night played into where we are with Roman now, though. |
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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 15, 2018 13:25:01 GMT -5
2014 was entertaining, IMO. And, unlike 2015, they still had a chance to make it right after #30. Had they called an audible, and let Roman win, the crowd would have been good with it. No he they wouldn't have. Roman got cheered because he was the only guy left in the ring who wasn't Batista. Nobody thought he was going to win and nobody really wanted to see him take what they believed to be Daniel BRyan's spot either. People realized it was Batista's match and once they clued into that they were just angry; it's why they not only booed Rey coming out, but cheered him getting thrown. 2014 was the rumble where it was legitimately 'Bryan or bust' and Roman getting cheered was nothing but audience revolt. I disagree. I remember the live reaction threads back then and everyone was going hard on Reigns to win it when it got down to the final three. Yes, people were still resigned to the fact that Batista was the likely winner, but to quote many of the posts of that very thread: I could keep going, but my point is that they set up a perfect opportunity to give the guy the rocket right then and there. But because they were so dead-set on putting Batista in the WM Main Event (much like how they're going about it now with Roman just about every year), it didn't happen. It wasn't a matter of Bryan having his spot taken by someone else; it was a matter of handing the spot to "a part-timer who was hand-picked by the company instead of crowd support". They tried doing the exact same thing next year with Roman, and it failed horribly because they telegraphed the whole thing by that point as well. |
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Post by tankisfreemason on Jan 15, 2018 13:30:04 GMT -5
I was at the 2015 Rumble. It was that bad. The two Rumbles, along with 2016 and 2017 not helping the cause, have made me so uninterested in the Rumble that I’m not even looking forward to it. In the past 7+ years, aside from a couple of good/great matches during the poverty, the only exciting thing about the actual Rumble has been AJ Styles debut. WWE should be embarrassed by the rep the Rumble has now.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 15, 2018 13:34:26 GMT -5
No he they wouldn't have. Roman got cheered because he was the only guy left in the ring who wasn't Batista. Nobody thought he was going to win and nobody really wanted to see him take what they believed to be Daniel BRyan's spot either. People realized it was Batista's match and once they clued into that they were just angry; it's why they not only booed Rey coming out, but cheered him getting thrown. 2014 was the rumble where it was legitimately 'Bryan or bust' and Roman getting cheered was nothing but audience revolt. I disagree. I remember the live reaction threads back then and everyone was going hard on Reigns to win it when it got down to the final three. Yes, people were still resigned to the fact that Batista was the likely winner, but to quote many of the posts of that very thread: I could keep going, but my point is that they set up a perfect opportunity to give the guy the rocket right then and there. But because they were so dead-set on putting Batista in the WM Main Event (much like how they're going about it now with Roman just about every year), it didn't happen. It wasn't a matter of Bryan having his spot taken by someone else; it was a matter of handing the spot to "a part-timer who was hand-picked by the company instead of crowd support". They tried doing the exact same thing next year with Roman, and it failed horribly because they telegraphed the whole thing by that point as well. But what would the next day have looked like, when Daniel Bryan still wasn't in the main event? 2014 went off the rails when Rey came out because it meant Bryan wasn't. Would all of these people still have been down for a Roman/Orton main event while Bryan went on to reportedly go fight Sheamus in a nothing opening match? Would the audience have just not hijacked shows with Bryan chants for months because hey Batista didn't win and that's all people were really upset about? I don't buy it. I think Roman would have been rejected even harder once the dust settled and people realized they were getting Roman/Orton in the main event because that's still not Daniel Bryan. 2014 was the year where people wanted one specific guy to win and didn't, 2015 was the year people wanted someone other than the chosen winner to win. That's why people were so livid and behind Daniel Bryan specifically in 2014 where in 2015 people were just against Roman Reigns. If you go back to the 2015 Rumble, you'll hear people getting behind Rusev in the same way they got behind Roman a year earlier. Heat of the moment posts aren't the most solid evidence that they could have given Roman a big, crowd-loving, star-making moment. 2014 was Daniel Bryan's year and Roman would still have ended up booed mercilessly before his singles push could start. |
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Post by Starshine on Jan 15, 2018 14:27:32 GMT -5
No he they wouldn't have. Roman got cheered because he was the only guy left in the ring who wasn't Batista. Nobody thought he was going to win and nobody really wanted to see him take what they believed to be Daniel BRyan's spot either. People realized it was Batista's match and once they clued into that they were just angry; it's why they not only booed Rey coming out, but cheered him getting thrown. 2014 was the rumble where it was legitimately 'Bryan or bust' and Roman getting cheered was nothing but audience revolt. I disagree. I remember the live reaction threads back then and everyone was going hard on Reigns to win it when it got down to the final three. Yes, people were still resigned to the fact that Batista was the likely winner, but to quote many of the posts of that very thread: I could keep going, but my point is that they set up a perfect opportunity to give the guy the rocket right then and there. But because they were so dead-set on putting Batista in the WM Main Event (much like how they're going about it now with Roman just about every year), it didn't happen. It wasn't a matter of Bryan having his spot taken by someone else; it was a matter of handing the spot to "a part-timer who was hand-picked by the company instead of crowd support". They tried doing the exact same thing next year with Roman, and it failed horribly because they telegraphed the whole thing by that point as well. People were saying similar things about Orton in last years match too and look how well that all went over. It’s just a lesser of two evils perspective. |
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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 15, 2018 14:45:35 GMT -5
People were saying similar things about Orton in last years match too and look how well that all went over. I don't recall it being a bad thing back then? Sure, the match payoff went sideways, but the Wyatt 'partnership'/feud was leading to a double-cross moment either way. The fact Wyatt won the belt the following month made it that much bigger for them (and for a brief period, we actually saw credible build-up for Wyatt). |
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Post by Perfect Timing on Jan 15, 2018 14:57:31 GMT -5
Long story short I remember the Rumble never really becomin a Rumble..Bray Wyatt was on Diesel 1994 mode for early start of the match and I don't think the ring filled up until 19th entrant or something. It was clear the didn't give a damn about putting on a classic match. If I wasn't such a big fan I would of switched off after the 20th entrant.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 15, 2018 14:58:26 GMT -5
I personally think it's as simple as 2015 has that epic ending moment with Roman/Rock ingrained into everybody's memory. It's a memorable type of bad. That single image is worth a thousand-thousand words.  |
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Post by Starshine on Jan 15, 2018 16:20:12 GMT -5
People were saying similar things about Orton in last years match too and look how well that all went over. I don't recall it being a bad thing back then? Sure, the match payoff went sideways, but the Wyatt 'partnership'/feud was leading to a double-cross moment either way. The fact Wyatt won the belt the following month made it that much bigger for them (and for a brief period, we actually saw credible build-up for Wyatt). Maybe. I also remember a lot of confused people. But you have a point that in itself doesn’t necessarily mean it was all bad at the time. |
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