Lupin the Third
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Post by Lupin the Third on Mar 15, 2021 17:45:01 GMT -5
OK, let's just take stock here. The Dark Order is a cult that consists of: A dorky recruiter in a mask who ordered a gimp suit online A French-Canadian with a bad temper A young woman with sociopathic tendencies and who is prone to violent outbursts Two man-children who used to be called "The Beaver Boys", one of whom now goes by the nickname "Johnny Hungiee" A drug addict A guy none of them like Colt Cabana And their alcoholic cowboy friend Plus, they've been hanging around a foul-mouthed wannabe Idol singer. The adventures of these people is the purest, most wholesome thing in professional wrestling. We truly live in the best timeline. Don't forget their cute Brazilian Judoka friend.
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Lupin the Third
Patti Mayonnaise
I'm sorry.....I love you. *boot to the head*--3rd most culpable in the jixing of NXT, D'oh!
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Post by Lupin the Third on Mar 15, 2021 17:52:20 GMT -5
OK, let's just take stock here. The Dark Order is a cult that consists of: A dorky recruiter in a mask who ordered a gimp suit online A French-Canadian with a bad temper A young woman with sociopathic tendencies and who is prone to violent outbursts Two man-children who used to be called "The Beaver Boys", one of whom now goes by the nickname "Johnny Hungiee" A drug addict A guy none of them like Colt Cabana And their alcoholic cowboy friend Plus, they've been hanging around a foul-mouthed wannabe Idol singer. The adventures of these people is the purest, most wholesome thing in professional wrestling. We truly live in the best timeline. Also, it's now canon that Alex Abrahantes is Freddy Kruger.
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Kalmia
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 15, 2021 20:51:12 GMT -5
This was one of the best BTEs in a few weeks, I think.
No leg slapping while laughing, plus Hangman coming for the contract between Hardy and Private Party were very pointed digs at how WWE does their business (and both warranted, IMO)
I loved the Nightmare on Elite Street bit. Just all of it. The Dark Order version of the song, Sammy's first nightmare thought being golf carts—all fantastic.
Maki Itoh and the Dark Order is an excellent combo, as is Hangman and the Dark Order.
I love Matt Hardy's stable of wrestlers, too. It's very old-school, like Bobby Heenan and his family.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 15, 2021 20:52:42 GMT -5
OK, let's just take stock here. The Dark Order is a cult that consists of: A dorky recruiter in a mask who ordered a gimp suit online A French-Canadian with a bad temper A young woman with sociopathic tendencies and who is prone to violent outbursts Two man-children who used to be called "The Beaver Boys", one of whom now goes by the nickname "Johnny Hungiee" A drug addict A guy none of them like Colt Cabana And their alcoholic cowboy friend Plus, they've been hanging around a foul-mouthed wannabe Idol singer. The adventures of these people is the purest, most wholesome thing in professional wrestling. We truly live in the best timeline. Don't forget their cute Brazilian Judoka friend. And the (literal) kid that beats everyone up with kendo sticks whenever he can.
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Dennis Stamp
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Post by Dang! on Mar 16, 2021 8:02:19 GMT -5
This was one of the best BTEs in a few weeks, I think. No leg slapping while laughing, plus Hangman coming for the contract between Hardy and Private Party were very pointed digs at how WWE does their business (and both warranted, IMO) Both went over my head initially. I follow so little WWE shit that I haven't read about the leg slapping part, but when on of the Buck mentioned "VKM" I instantly assumed what that was about and looking it up confirmed my assumption. The contract stuff totally went over my head, I just assumed it was furthering the storyline of Matt Hardy being a scummy businessman...wait...is Matt Hardy's gimmick that he's Vince?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 16, 2021 8:07:53 GMT -5
This was one of the best BTEs in a few weeks, I think. No leg slapping while laughing, plus Hangman coming for the contract between Hardy and Private Party were very pointed digs at how WWE does their business (and both warranted, IMO) Both went over my head initially. I follow so little WWE shit that I haven't read about the leg slapping part, but when on of the Buck mentioned "VKM" I instantly assumed what that was about and looking it up confirmed my assumption. The contract stuff totally went over my head, I just assumed it was furthering the storyline of Matt Hardy being a scummy businessman...wait...is Matt Hardy's gimmick that he's Vince? I’d say there’s an aspect of Vince but he seems more like a really scummy talent agent who mostly thinks of himself, especially after giving as much as he has. Sort of Big Money Matt mixed with Don King. Not sure what an easily comparable equivalent would be but that’s how I interpret it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 16, 2021 9:25:58 GMT -5
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Dang!
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Post by Dang! on Mar 16, 2021 11:29:32 GMT -5
Both went over my head initially. I follow so little WWE shit that I haven't read about the leg slapping part, but when on of the Buck mentioned "VKM" I instantly assumed what that was about and looking it up confirmed my assumption. The contract stuff totally went over my head, I just assumed it was furthering the storyline of Matt Hardy being a scummy businessman...wait...is Matt Hardy's gimmick that he's Vince? I’d say there’s an aspect of Vince but he seems more like a really scummy talent agent who mostly thinks of himself, especially after giving as much as he has. Sort of Big Money Matt mixed with Don King. Not sure what an easily comparable equivalent would be but that’s how I interpret it. Yes, I haven't seen him as a "VKM" character either until people mentioned that stuff he did in BTE. Parodies of characters from other companies usually don't work well. I also just see him as this scummy talent agent which is a good gimmick that haven't been done in that form before.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Mar 16, 2021 11:54:45 GMT -5
I’d say there’s an aspect of Vince but he seems more like a really scummy talent agent who mostly thinks of himself, especially after giving as much as he has. Sort of Big Money Matt mixed with Don King. Not sure what an easily comparable equivalent would be but that’s how I interpret it. Yes, I haven't seen him as a "VKM" character either until people mentioned that stuff he did in BTE. Parodies of characters from other companies usually don't work well. I also just see him as this scummy talent agent which is a good gimmick that haven't been done in that form before. That's always my standard with this sort of reference: is it contributing to a logical character that works in-universe, or is it just a shallow dig that only works out-of-universe? Everything Matt does makes sense in-universe - even the very specific dig here is paying off an earlier BTE segment that foreshadowed that Matt might use the space he rents to the Elite to bilk them out of money for frivolous reasons.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 16, 2021 12:11:15 GMT -5
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 16, 2021 12:15:14 GMT -5
I’d say there’s an aspect of Vince but he seems more like a really scummy talent agent who mostly thinks of himself, especially after giving as much as he has. Sort of Big Money Matt mixed with Don King. Not sure what an easily comparable equivalent would be but that’s how I interpret it. Yes, I haven't seen him as a "VKM" character either until people mentioned that stuff he did in BTE. Parodies of characters from other companies usually don't work well. I also just see him as this scummy talent agent which is a good gimmick that haven't been done in that form before. Yes, I think he's totally just a scummy agent that's trying to extort as much money as possible from his signees. It just happens that some of the scummy things he's doing correlate with recent WWE things (the third-party accounts, for example.) I don't think his character is ever going to become a straight parody of Vince.
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Post by toodarkmark on Mar 16, 2021 12:53:59 GMT -5
AEW wrestlers should be able to make fun of stupid shit VKM does on BTE without people saying their character is VKM. Wrestlers who do not work for WWE are allowed to make fun of something stupid they do occasionally. Obviously, no one should do it constantly (like Voodoo Kin Mafia), because then everyone just becomes annoyed by it. But an occasional joke from a pissant company should be fine.
I kinda wish Matt Hardy leaned harder into it, but I'm in the minority of loving parody of rival companies who do shitty things.
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y4j1981
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Post by y4j1981 on Mar 16, 2021 13:28:49 GMT -5
Random question, are the green dark order shirts for sale? Didn't see them on PWTees
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Post by Dub H on Mar 16, 2021 15:37:21 GMT -5
Random question, are the green dark order shirts for sale? Didn't see them on PWTees I assume they will be tomorrow ,since it is their st Patrick special
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 16, 2021 17:57:21 GMT -5
Mai Itoh and Charlie just exchanging curse words at each other was surprisingly wholesome
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 17, 2021 13:28:55 GMT -5
Stu's crush on Anna is so damn wholesome.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 17, 2021 16:48:39 GMT -5
"Big Money" Matt Hardy and his stable may be my favorite thing in all of AEW.
They're so delightfully nasty and slimy in that territory heel way.
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Post by Legion on Mar 19, 2021 18:36:20 GMT -5
Yes, I haven't seen him as a "VKM" character either until people mentioned that stuff he did in BTE. Parodies of characters from other companies usually don't work well. I also just see him as this scummy talent agent which is a good gimmick that haven't been done in that form before. Yes, I think he's totally just a scummy agent that's trying to extort as much money as possible from his signees. It just happens that some of the scummy things he's doing correlate with recent WWE things (the third-party accounts, for example.) I don't think his character is ever going to become a straight parody of Vince. Yeah, my impression is that he is less Vince and more what the impression of Vince is. A parody of a parody
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Post by Yamashita Enforcement Division on Mar 20, 2021 12:20:10 GMT -5
People love claiming that people portraying criminals and cult leaders are just doing Vince impressions and on one hand, it's right because Vince is this giant cult leader criminal running a toxic hell pit that hates you, personally and in general, but on the other it feels like a way to diminish the character work as being just a satire of a "bigger star."
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 22, 2021 11:05:03 GMT -5
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