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Post by Nickybojelais on Feb 8, 2018 21:58:03 GMT -5
I find it ironic that Vince is so perceptive of the NFL's obvious failings but he's completely blind to the clear failings of his own Wrestling company.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Feb 8, 2018 22:04:51 GMT -5
Pretty sure Vince created this thread.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 8, 2018 22:42:43 GMT -5
And here's an addendum to me previous point. Make yourself an attractive alternative over the CFL for players too. Because as it stands those are the best guys you'll potentially get. And for that matter, take a long hard look at their business model and learn how they make things work.
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Post by fg on Feb 8, 2018 23:23:01 GMT -5
Also, if NBC is stupid enough to broadcast games and its on the same Saturday night as a much hyped SNL, make sure you have gasoline in the generator so you can broadcast your game without any problems and make sure that the game won't cause the rest of the NBC Saturday night schedule to be backlogged and/or preempted. Remember what caused the 2001 Jennifer Lopez hosted SNL to be shown past midnight.
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Post by agent817 on Feb 8, 2018 23:31:05 GMT -5
It was already made official that it won't cross over with WWE. Wasn't that one reason why it didn't do so well the first time? I mean, I can see some wrestlers rocking jerseys on Raw or Smackdown, but don't have the wrestlers appear at games or on the jumbotron at the games.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Feb 8, 2018 23:48:29 GMT -5
If I was going to try and make the XFL a success: 1. Focus the teams on cities that have no pro football team, and especially focus on places that have strong college teams already. Possibly focus on teams in Texas/SEC country, where football will NEVER die- so that even if football declines, the XFL will have a fanbase. 1a. Related: Try and get some players from the local college team on their local XFL team. (Do it right, you'll have an immediate grassroots fanbase for the XFL teams and players those cities would love to see in the pros.) 2. Make a big selling point to the league "Guaranteed Multi-Year Contracts." If anything will be able to get the XFL to compete with the NFL, the only way to fight them is "lure NFL players to the XFL", and the biggest thing to fight the NFL and have a chance at stealing NFL players would be "if you sign for 5 years, you will PLAY for 5 years" against the "NFL multi-year contracts aren't worth the paper they're printed on and you'll just be cut for cap reasons next year." (Do it right, the XFL will be able to steal NFL players- which is always the biggest way secondary leagues compete with the major leagues.) 3. Build the XFL around spread offenses like most of the top college teams play in. It'd be the easiest way to separate the NFL from the XFL from the beginning, and it would give the XFL a good chance at luring top college stars: Most college teams play a spread offense (even knowing that spread offense QBs get eaten alive in the NFL), and this leads to a higher-scoring offense (high scoring- high ratings) and makes it so that the spread QBs would be at a premium to choose the NFL (which would give the XFL college stars to build around.) Curious specifically about what cities you think would work for your first point? Like your top 5 or top 10 cities you think would work about that. I’d love to learn something new since I don’t follow college football. My university didn’t even have a team! ![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/74/e1/6174e1993bbc0461148ca78424ceb69e.jpg) Cal Poly Pomona has been undefeated since 1938!
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Post by sportatorium on Feb 9, 2018 0:21:13 GMT -5
Quality of play & really good players. Run college spread offenses that don’t require great offensive line play. Stay away from retreads like Manziel & Tebow. No replay & slant the games toward the offenses.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Feb 9, 2018 0:25:31 GMT -5
Find a few stars and promote the shit out of them. For as oversaturated it is, Americans love football. I'm a huge football fan. The Super Bowl was last week and I would love for there to be a game this weekend. But people won't watch an XFL that's promoted as a monolithic brand like WWE. Sign guys like Tebow and Kaepernick and promote them like they're Hogan in 1985. Then they got a shot. I'm worried that if Kap and Tebow played against each other, they would push it as Hogan vs. Slaughter. 😒
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Feb 9, 2018 0:33:09 GMT -5
Hire different writers. Don't use the same guys that write the WWE. Otherwise we would have a team that loses five straight games and then have face the favorites for the XFL Cup (whatever it'll be called) and win, only to have the team that won the "Money in the Bank" tournament sneak in during the fourth quarter and steal it. {Spoiler}Yes, I'm implying "worked football".
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 9, 2018 0:33:34 GMT -5
honestly they are better off being a AAA league to the nfl rather than competing with them. There needs to be a league between college and nfl for those who've been might be overlooked in the nfl.
But the xfl name is doing no favors.
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Post by S-Chrome on Feb 9, 2018 0:44:09 GMT -5
Aside from the 'football factories' listed earlier in the thread, I think it's probably imperative to have your customary big-city teams (New York, Chicago, LA, etc...)
The other idea is to absolutely not have it run in direct competition with the NFL. Run it a month after the Super Bowl until OTAs begin in the NFL. I would also capitalize on less penalties and clearly defined catch rules.
We also need the miraculous return of He Hate Me.
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 9, 2018 1:36:40 GMT -5
Aside from the 'football factories' listed earlier in the thread, I think it's probably imperative to have your customary big-city teams (New York, Chicago, LA, etc...) The other idea is to absolutely not have it run in direct competition with the NFL. Run it a month after the Super Bowl until OTAs begin in the NFL. I would also capitalize on less penalties and clearly defined catch rules. We also need the miraculous return of He Hate Me. The problem though, is that big-city teams would be a curse for the XFL since they'd give national glitz, but they're also saturated markets. New York and Los Angeles both have two NFL teams- heck, the Chargers have seemingly been too much for LA as it is. Putting an XFL team in those cities would have no chance of a success story in the XFL because anyone who'd want to follow a team would follow the NFL team. Even if you're in the spring, you're in competition with the NFL market. The only hope the XFL would have of getting a buzz would be to go the opposite direction and focus, like I had said, on college-friendly small markets that would be success stories for the XFL. Heck, even the XFL's first season proved this was the case- Las Vegas was the smallest market in the XFL (and had no competition in the city at the time), but Las Vegas was the biggest success story the XFL had in its first season.
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Post by Scott on Feb 9, 2018 4:06:45 GMT -5
Ban politics and promote player safety. Those seemed to be hot issues hurting the NFL’s ratings.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 4:32:56 GMT -5
Make sure players talk about how the XFL has the best football in the world and they're sick of that company up north.
Then have them quit the company after a couple games.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 9, 2018 4:47:18 GMT -5
Quit while you're behind. Fixed.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 9, 2018 5:05:43 GMT -5
Have the tagline "XFL, where the big boys play"
Have Gronk show up unannounced and say, "Well, look at the ADJECTIVE"
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 9, 2018 5:50:40 GMT -5
Finding a broadcaster willing to be locked into a contract long enough for the XFL to find it's audience. You can have all the rules on playing and politics you want, but they're meaningless if you can only get a one year Tv deal.
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Post by ERON on Feb 9, 2018 7:03:37 GMT -5
Stick to being a summer league. The USFL is remembered today as a huge flop, but they were actually doing well at first when they only played while the NFL was off for the summer, proving that there is a market for a summer pro football league. It was when they switched to a fall schedule and tried to compete head to head with the NFL that they crashed and burned.
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Post by Talent Name on Feb 9, 2018 7:33:40 GMT -5
Be smart, be loyal, fans will appreciate that
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 9, 2018 8:30:00 GMT -5
Make sure players talk about how the XFL has the best football in the world and they're sick of that company up north. Then have them quit the company after a couple games. I see Vince has hired Dixie Carter as a consultant.
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