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Post by chrom on Feb 28, 2018 8:54:08 GMT -5
In one ear and out the other
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Johnny
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Post by Johnny on Feb 28, 2018 9:00:40 GMT -5
if I was a billionaire, and I owned wwe, I would listen. and then i'd do what I want too. good for him.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 28, 2018 9:01:35 GMT -5
I wish a real journalist would just tear them to f***ing shreds. You'd think they'd want to. WWE has a big enough audience that they would read that kind of exposé. I don't get why they don't just go for, it's an easy article to write. They choose their outlets carefully, if one did play hardball with them, they'd just walk out and tell the editors that if they publish they and and associated sites would get no further access to anything wwe from that point on. Look at how they cut off Colt Cabana after the Punk podcast. I mean, boo-hoo? You can find plenty to put out there. If WWE doesn't want to give you puff piece interviews anymore, who cares? |
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Post by Nickybojelais on Feb 28, 2018 9:05:07 GMT -5
I imagine Lilian Garcia had Stephanie on the ropes with a plethora of tough questions such as "Stephanie, you're awesome. What makes you so awesome?"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 9:08:04 GMT -5
if I was a billionaire, and I owned wwe, I would listen. and then i'd do what I want too. good for him. Pretty much. People are forgetting that the WWE is a billion dollar company. Whether he listens or does what he wants, he seems to sort of know what he's doing. Do I like and agree with everything the WWE does? No, but who am I? Some guy on the internet, Vince is obligated to listen to me? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 9:11:05 GMT -5
This has to be a joke... I mean, who'd listen to a Lillian Garcia podcast? I wonder if she botches people’s names as she interviews them. |
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Post by Gremlin on Feb 28, 2018 9:11:53 GMT -5
Vince McMahon thinks that you, the audience, are quite frankly tired of having your intelligence insulted.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 28, 2018 9:38:43 GMT -5
if I was a billionaire, and I owned wwe, I would listen. and then i'd do what I want too. good for him. Pretty much. People are forgetting that the WWE is a billion dollar company. Whether he listens or does what he wants, he seems to sort of know what he's doing. Do I like and agree with everything the WWE does? No, but who am I? Some guy on the internet, Vince is obligated to listen to me? Millionaire who should be a billionaire. It's a cliche, but it's still valid. They might be a successful company but they've lost droves of their audience over the years and could be far more successful if they made even slight changes which would vastly improve their product. Vince should be obligated to listen to the audience that give him clear feedback on a weekly basis on his own programming. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 9:53:42 GMT -5
I've been saying I wanted Coliseum Videos on the Network, the return of Sean Mooney, and a new line of retro Hasbro style action figures. I might be the one person Vince listens to. I'm going to start pushing for a Roman Reigns/Mantaur title feud, then we'll know for certain.
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Post by Timeless Hayterade on Feb 28, 2018 10:08:20 GMT -5
That's very interesting Miss Jackass, I mean McMahon. Let me type that up on my invisible typewriter.  |
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Post by Schizo on Feb 28, 2018 10:51:50 GMT -5
Millionaire who should be a billionaire. It's a cliche, but it's still valid. They might be a successful company but they've lost droves of their audience over the years and could be far more successful if they made even slight changes which would vastly improve their product. Vince should be obligated to listen to the audience that give him clear feedback on a weekly basis on his own programming.  "Well than...billonaire who should be a ZILLIONAIRE!" |
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Post by Yacht Persona on Feb 28, 2018 10:56:13 GMT -5
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 28, 2018 11:02:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 11:21:10 GMT -5
"Well than...billonaire who should be a ZILLIONAIRE!" No one is a zillionare, not even Warren Buffet. I know the comment above was a joke, but just saying. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 28, 2018 11:26:20 GMT -5
Millionaire who should be a billionaire. It's a cliche, but it's still valid. They might be a successful company but they've lost droves of their audience over the years and could be far more successful if they made even slight changes which would vastly improve their product. Vince should be obligated to listen to the audience that give him clear feedback on a weekly basis on his own programming. It varies, but the point is that if he made the necessary adjustments to WWE he'd be richer and the product would be better. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 11:29:06 GMT -5
if I was a billionaire, and I owned wwe, I would listen. and then i'd do what I want too. good for him. Pretty much. People are forgetting that the WWE is a billion dollar company. Whether he listens or does what he wants, he seems to sort of know what he's doing. Do I like and agree with everything the WWE does? No, but who am I? Some guy on the internet, Vince is obligated to listen to me? The thing is though that WWE barely makes a profit anymore, has been hemorrhaging viewers for years on end, has by and large failed to grow the kid demographic they've been trying for for years, is seeing essentially no Network growth anymore, and is having terrible live attendance. They're not in danger of going out of business tomorrow or anything, but something DOES need to change because their current model is not sustainable. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 28, 2018 12:41:49 GMT -5
I mean, boo-hoo? You can find plenty to put out there. If WWE doesn't want to give you puff piece interviews anymore, who cares? It's a bigger deal than it should be in an era the print media are dying and thee are a million celebrity news sites, blogs and podcasts desperate for exclusives. It's moot anyway WWE won't let the McMahon family get before actual journalists in the first place because it never ends well. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 28, 2018 14:48:23 GMT -5
The thing is though that WWE barely makes a profit anymore, has been hemorrhaging viewers for years on end, has by and large failed to grow the kid demographic they've been trying for for years, is seeing essentially no Network growth anymore, and is having terrible live attendance. They're not in danger of going out of business tomorrow or anything, but something DOES need to change because their current model is not sustainable. Turning a profit each year isn't a sustainable business model? "Turn profit every year" isn't a business model. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 28, 2018 15:10:47 GMT -5
"Turn profit every year" isn't a business model. You're right. It's a result of a business model. How is the business model that leads to that result not sustainable? A sustainable business model is one that looks to be sturdy and ready to meet the future. It has nothing to do with what they're making now or what they made last year or five years ago. A business model making money now is not indicative of anything resembling sustainability. Lizuka's right; their ratings are slowly creeping off, the Network has at best plateaued into their seasonal highs and is just going to cycle around those here and there, and attendance is way down. Right out of their 2017 financials: "Live Event revenues decreased to $35.2 million from $38.6 million in the prior year quarter primarily due to a 7% decline in average attendance that was partially offset by a 5% increase in the average effective ticket price." That's by design not sustainable math. Business is about year-on-year growth and right now WWE is in a position where they're stagnating and their numbers are dwindling. Maybe not on the financial level yet, as they try to squeeze more money out of the people who do stick around and still have enough brand power to push for a more TV rights money and licensing, but all of the money WWE makes is dependent on having an audience, and if in four years' time Raw is lucky to get two million viewers and they're playing smaller venues, those narrow profit margins they're getting will vanish. Everything WWE does, whether directly out of our pocket or not, is dependent on us as an audience, because we give value to their brand that they sell to other companies, who only want to air their show, buy their show, make their toys, make their games, because they expect that we as fans will give them our business too. WWE can't make money without an audience, and a model that sees their audience shrink year on year is by definition not a sustainable model. |
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 28, 2018 15:17:05 GMT -5
What Vince McMahon does best is listen to the audience.
This would be fine, except for the related problem:
What the audience does WORST is clearly getting across EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT from the WWE.
When the audience makes it crystal clear exactly what they want (some examples: "We want Tye Dillinger to enter the 2016 Royal Rumble at number 10!", "We want Mizdow to turn on The Miz and come into his own!") , then the WWE is happy to give it to people.
When the audience is NOT crystal clear about what they want ("Push (blank)!"...great. How hard? How far up the card?), then it doesn't happen.
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