TGM
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Post by TGM on Mar 6, 2018 17:59:29 GMT -5
I don't think Val was a good fit, he was getting his own heel heat before being lumbered with RTC, I think they killed his chances to main event.
However, Steven Richards was probably my most hated guy on the roster and Ivory was fantastic. They were a pretty great stable all things considered.
I thought they were done after their loss at Wrestlemania 17 but I was watching Raws from mid 01 and Buchanan and Goodfather pick up a win against a team I was surprised to see lose but I can't remember who it was.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 7, 2018 8:50:32 GMT -5
They had 'go away' heat with me. That group got old fast.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 9:41:57 GMT -5
Went to a Smackdown that also filmed Heat that night. That "theme" was all over the place that night. Very annoying. Stevie played the role as best as he could, and in theory it was a good idea. The problem was, they were so ineffectual they never looked like a threat Ineffectual? They're the most successful heel stable of all time. They wanted a more PG product, and the entire company did it. They were just playing the long game... RTC era Stevie Richards would be shedding tears of joy if he knew what the company would become 15-20 years after his run. All that hard work paid off in the end.
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Perfect Timing
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Post by Perfect Timing on Mar 7, 2018 16:20:53 GMT -5
Looking back on things now, Stevie was such a good hand. Decent in the ring and he was an excellent mouthpiece for the group and eventually KroniK (but we know what happened there). Everyone and his grandma has been saying Stevie was good in the ring for what seems like a century. I really don't see it, he wasn't a bad jobber near the end of his run in WWE but he just didn't have that many good matches. Al Snow was way better at in ring and comedy.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Mar 7, 2018 16:30:29 GMT -5
A much more effective version of what WCW tried to do a few months earlier with Standards and Practices (which basically just amounted to having Stacy Keibler dance on tables). It was actually a brilliant way to walk back some of the raunchier Russo-era Attitude Era stuff without making it seem like they were going soft, while at the same time lampooning the PTC (Parents Television Council). It did pretty much kill the momentum of Val and the Godfather, but the kernel of the idea was golden. Honestly, it should have kept going, expanding into an nWo-size cult and giving all of the Attitude Era midcard castoffs something to do as the likes of the Radicalz and the incoming surge of WCW and ECW talent took their former spots.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 18:58:02 GMT -5
Looking back on things now, Stevie was such a good hand. Decent in the ring and he was an excellent mouthpiece for the group and eventually KroniK (but we know what happened there). Everyone and his grandma has been saying Stevie was good in the ring for what seems like a century. I really don't see it, he wasn't a bad jobber near the end of his run in WWE but he just didn't have that many good matches. Al Snow was way better at in ring and comedy. You just have to keep watching. He'll show you, you'll see!
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Mar 7, 2018 21:03:41 GMT -5
Stevie Richards > Bray Wyatt And remember when they had Ivory try to wrestle in heeled boots? She twisted her ankle and was immediately back to normal ones. Who thought that was a good idea? Wasn't it the heeled boots that busted Lita's face during a match? Also, I (unsurprisingly) liked Ivory's black skirt and tights gear a lot more than the slacks!!
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Mar 7, 2018 21:14:47 GMT -5
I've gotta say, having the two most "raunchiest" Attitude era characters on the Godfather & Val Venis converted into moralizing minions was a brilliant booking move.
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