fw91
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Post by fw91 on Mar 30, 2018 17:30:10 GMT -5
I remember people didn't really want this match. It seemed like it was a waste of a Wrestlemania match for HBK to take on the aging Flair, and HBK was someone who "didn't need the rub" of ending Flair's career. No we were wrong. It was perfect.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 30, 2018 17:36:36 GMT -5
I've heard some speculation that what made Shawn double down on never coming back from his in ring retirement after WM26 was his disappointment in seeing Flair deciding to wrestle again after he got such a great send off at Mania.
No idea if its true, but it would be an unfortunate postscript to such a great match.
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Post by axebomber on Mar 30, 2018 17:49:51 GMT -5
I don't mind when wrestlers have matches after retirement angles. You should still be able to have the occasional exhibition match. You're just not allowed to challenge for titles or have a contract or whatever. Many people in any number of industries occasionally come out of retirement. I don't know why wrestling is so precious about it. Unless you're Terry Funk who made a joke out of it.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 30, 2018 17:53:24 GMT -5
Flair's TNA matches don't count. They do and it means that HBK/Flair meant nothing. What about the Hulkamania tour before TNA? Regardless it still happened and I really wish he stayed retired after that match.
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Post by -Lithium- on Mar 30, 2018 22:44:39 GMT -5
I have no clue how HBK kept going after that moonsault landing on the edge of the tables. Like its brutal enough as a fan, but even though we understand...we're desensitized. Just think about it with no precedent for things like that. Imagine if you just saw someone land like that in "real life". It's insane to think about.
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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on Mar 31, 2018 0:27:52 GMT -5
Great match, great build. Honestly one of my favorite moments of the past 10 years, and probably the last time I legit cried while watching a wrestling show. It was like watching my entire life as a fan come down to one moment in time. I mean, Flair....shit, I grew up on Flair. Saturday night, 6:05pm. That was my little slice of childhood heaven. HBK was the perfect guy to do the deed. I believe it is one example of WWE doing right.
Also, I don't care about the TNA matches. We all understand the business, we're not children.
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Post by mauled on Mar 31, 2018 0:56:30 GMT -5
Hard to that much time has passed, huh? Yes the match that was the "end" of the Nature Boy. A Hall of Fame induction and a heck of a sendoff. And the start of Shawn's own arc that helped introduced SRS Jericho. So what's y'all thoughts about this great Wrestlemania moment. And after that he went straight to Australia on Hogans tour, being his job bitch, like it was WCW all over again
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 31, 2018 1:02:32 GMT -5
I think Flair made him promise to not hold back. So you lie and say you didn’t hold back Edit: yes I’m trying to find logic in a wrestling story The logic of the story was perfect though. Flair wanted to go out on his terms, 'on his shield', and face the best to either continue on or end it. Shawn, as his friend understood Flair's need to prove something, and knew that Flair's time was fading. If he didn't do it, someone "lesser" would have down the line and he'd have shown the ultimate disrespect to his friend by not giving it his all. It was like a kung fu movie of the student overcoming the old master. Ya either like that or you don't, but it was a perfectly logical, well-told story.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Mar 31, 2018 1:36:47 GMT -5
Didn't this Flair angle basically kick off a year of story? - Flair is fired if he loses - Shawn retires him - Batista seeks to avenge his friend and HBK cheats to beat him - Jericho takes exception to this and overhauls his entire gimmick And then Batista won the title from Jericho. Fantastic way to stretch a 3-person feud over an entire year.
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Post by msc on Mar 31, 2018 1:46:52 GMT -5
Also, the grey area of "Why didn't Shawn mail it in/did he actually want the glory" was there to spur on the Batista revenge attack. So it was addressed on TV, and iirc the implication basically was yeah, Shawn still wanted the glory of retiring Ric Flair. Didn't this Flair angle basically kick off a year of story? - Flair is fired if he loses - Shawn retires him - Batista seeks to avenge his friend and HBK cheats to beat him - Jericho takes exception to this and overhauls his entire gimmick Also other ripples like, Batista takes on Edge for the World title. Edge cheats to win. Batista snaps and murders Edge. CM Punk cashes in Money in the Bank and wins the World title. Which then wound up back in the Batista/Shawn/Jericho feud as Jericho used Punk's injury at the hands of Orton to weasel his way back as World champ. So much of that year was so well booked.
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Post by CeilingFan on Mar 31, 2018 7:16:19 GMT -5
Didn't this Flair angle basically kick off a year of story? - Flair is fired if he loses - Shawn retires him - Batista seeks to avenge his friend and HBK cheats to beat him - Jericho takes exception to this and overhauls his entire gimmick Then, Jericho disrespects Flair and other legends, which led to a great match between Jericho and Rick Steamboat at Backlash 2009. Pro Wrestling is weird.
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