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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Apr 11, 2018 5:08:40 GMT -5
Not necessarily. It can appeal to many demographics, depending on the company. I once watched a video of a indie wrestling show for families, where a gay babyface and his friend Mr. Cat went over an anti gay tag team. I'm fine with morality tales like that, because it was appropriate for that kind of show. But when I was a kid, I cared about who was champion. It meant that they were the best, so it was important and exciting. People get into wrestling for a variety of reasons, and that's been something that's worked for years. I'm sure there are plenty of young fans who are caught up in the competitive narrative. IMO, Booker T and HHH could have been a great program without the racial crap. It's the same with other controversial subjects. Wrestling at its most basic form is exciting enough as it is without that stuff. Okada/Omega or Cena/Styles wouldn't have improved by any of those guys calling their opponent a slur. But even then, the fact you said that there are morality tales that are fair and appropriate as well is admitting there IS a place in the sport for morality tales. The fact of the matter is that, every right-minded person knows these things are terrible. But even then, even if everyone knows its terrible, you still can't say "okay, we did our job. Sweep it under the rug"...because if you sweep it under the rug and say "We won, stop discussing it"- then it becomes a taboo...and there's a time in every kids' life where they're an edgelord and they get drawn to taboo subjects. That alone is a reason that even if everyone knows it's wrong, you still have to reinforce the subject: if you don't discuss it and tell people how wrong it is early and WHY it's so wrong, then eventually someone else- likely someone who IS a racist or IS a homophobe or IS against them- is going to tell them, and they're not going to tell them what you want. My stance isn't rooted in "we won, stop discussing it." It's in my belief that wrestling programs are best when they're kept simple. And companies making heels so unpleasant and offensive to the point they have people stating they don't want to watch the show is not only overthinking the angle, it's counterproductive to their bottom line. Long story short, I'm 100% against what the Briscoes did. And unless they showed signs of positive change, I wouldn't hire them for my show if I was a promoter. |
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Post by Reflecto on Apr 11, 2018 12:17:41 GMT -5
My stance isn't rooted in "we won, stop discussing it." It's in my belief that wrestling programs are best when they're kept simple. And companies making heels so unpleasant and offensive to the point they have people stating they don't want to watch the show is not only overthinking the angle, it's counterproductive to their bottom line. Long story short, I'm 100% against what the Briscoes did. And unless they showed signs of positive change, I wouldn't hire them for my show if I was a promoter. And that would be relatively different to my stance. My belief is not that you don't need to do things like this to be a heel, but rather that you need more to wrestling programs than "I am [X]. I am a good wrestler who is here to put on the best match on this card with another very good wrestler who I deeply respect as a competitor and have no ill feelings towards in the least." Heck, this is the reason I'm personally wary of watching 205 Live because they took all the fun out of the show and had Drake Maverick say "Hey, you're a good wrestler. Stop caring about this other shit and wrestle." This is not to say you need unpleasant, offensive storylines to get over (and in fairness, WWE's track record when they DO go to the well of something unpleasant and offensive is NOT GOOD in terms of 'did the asshole win or lose?' ), but you need something more than "good wrestlers wrestling good." |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Apr 11, 2018 14:07:57 GMT -5
My stance isn't rooted in "we won, stop discussing it." It's in my belief that wrestling programs are best when they're kept simple. And companies making heels so unpleasant and offensive to the point they have people stating they don't want to watch the show is not only overthinking the angle, it's counterproductive to their bottom line. Long story short, I'm 100% against what the Briscoes did. And unless they showed signs of positive change, I wouldn't hire them for my show if I was a promoter. And that would be relatively different to my stance. My belief is not that you don't need to do things like this to be a heel, but rather that you need more to wrestling programs than "I am [X]. I am a good wrestler who is here to put on the best match on this card with another very good wrestler who I deeply respect as a competitor and have no ill feelings towards in the least." Heck, this is the reason I'm personally wary of watching 205 Live because they took all the fun out of the show and had Drake Maverick say "Hey, you're a good wrestler. Stop caring about this other shit and wrestle." This is not to say you need unpleasant, offensive storylines to get over (and in fairness, WWE's track record when they DO go to the well of something unpleasant and offensive is NOT GOOD in terms of 'did the asshole win or lose?' ), you need something more than "good wrestlers wrestling good."There's nothing in my previous posts that was asking for that. |
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Post by Reflecto on Apr 11, 2018 14:40:29 GMT -5
There's nothing in my previous posts that was asking for that. [/quote] Maybe I misunderstood what you meant when you said "wrestling should be kept simple", then. Fair enough. |
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