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Post by The Legend of Groose on Apr 8, 2018 23:20:09 GMT -5
6 out of 10. I think I gave last year's a 7 out of 10 and it was not as good as last year's. There was some good matches but there was nothing really jump out of my seat amazing. Mania was just kind of... there.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Apr 8, 2018 23:20:17 GMT -5
I had to give this a "weird" because IC Triple Threat aside, I didn't legitimately like any other match outside of caveats, such as the Rousey match and Nia/Bliss match being, "better than they should have been". Honestly my favorite match of the whole night wasn't even on the show proper.
Cedric Alexander vs Mustafa Ali was my favorite in the entire night.
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Post by Pure Fusion Jesse Walsh on Apr 8, 2018 23:23:09 GMT -5
I don’t know what that show was and it’ll probably take me years to properly assess it, but I do know I had a lot of fun watching it. I’ll give it a 7 as of right now, I guess.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 8, 2018 23:25:11 GMT -5
With Mania being several hours of wrestling we’re going to get some good stuff in there somewhere and we did. The problem is that there was far more bad than good. I honestly miss Mania costing fifty bucks. At least then they had to try extra hard with their booking and payoffs to entertain us for our money. Now it’s just a shit show.
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Post by froggyfrog on Apr 8, 2018 23:26:19 GMT -5
Show started off great but went downhill the last hour and a half. I’ll go 7/10
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Post by Zach on Apr 8, 2018 23:26:35 GMT -5
I wish Nia was booked more like a female Andre the Giant where pretty much no one can stop her and when she does get beat its a huge deal. It would have been better if she ended Asukas streak but whatever, at least the streak was ended
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Apr 8, 2018 23:26:42 GMT -5
Weird ass show.
Nakamura should've won, he could still turn heel after.
Daniel Bryan is back, and that's all I cared about.
7.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Apr 8, 2018 23:27:45 GMT -5
Thought it was a solid 8 some good matches
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Post by Tenshigure on Apr 8, 2018 23:28:20 GMT -5
Gave it a 6. My lowpoints:
- Naomi sneaking in last-second after a terrific "final two" moment between Bayley and Sasha...only to sneak in an elimination with no story buildup after being outside the ring. Enough of the "hiding because they went between the ropes rather than over them" nonsense.
- Not just Asuka losing her streak, but using her own catchphrase ("Charlotte WAS ready for Asuka!") to put someone over who never needed it.
- Both tag title matches becoming the cool-down matches. Bludgeon Brothers still aren't 'over' as a team and won to no reaction, and Braun grabbing a random 10-year-old kid instead of a legitimate shock return of any sort further destroys the integrity of the Raw tag division.
- Styles/Nakamura felt like it was a 20-minute trial preview of a 60-minute match. The build was slow, but so many people were holding out that things were going to pick up...except they didn't. Sure, the Nakamura heel turn is a good thing, but it's a desperate move since he would've been absolutely done otherwise. Hopefully they can do something to bring back the fire in his matches, because he has not delivered on the main roster at all.
- Lesnar beat Reigns. I don't give a damn about Reigns or his umpteenth coronation, but we all know they are desperate to get him over (including the stupid sympathy post-credits walkout from the arena). By letting Lesnar continue as the Universal Champ, they literally have ran out of people to challenge him for the belt. May as well let him leave with the damned thing at this point, because even a returning Bobby Lashley isn't going to garner any kind of real interest from the audience at this point.
Overall, the professional wrestling shows as a whole this weekend aside from NXT's has been big sells but no delivery. From WrestleMania to Supercard of Honor to Impact vs LU...each just did not live up to the expectations, whereas NXT met and exceeded them. It's just hard to really be enthusiastic for the "Raw after WrestleMania" when we've got such weird story decisions made tonight.
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Post by brown bricks on Apr 8, 2018 23:34:02 GMT -5
1. Awful outside of that IC match.
- Asuka losing was f***ing insanely stupid and anti-climatic. It happening at the hands of Charlotte screamed of their typical nepotism bullshit. The ass-kissing of Charlotte after made it all somehow even worse. Asuka was legitimately the only thing I cared about in the company (Outside of another guy I'll mention later...), so I doubt I'll be watching Raw or SD for quite a long time.
- Jinder winning anything is stupid. I hope Rusev is granted his release and ends up New Japan.
- The Rousey match wasn't for me. I don't like Rousey as a person, I've never liked Triple H or his wife, and Angle is in rough shape.
- SD titles match was not good. "Completely nothing" is the best description I have for it.
- Undertake vs. Cena was a waste of time. You hype it up for weeks for that? It was a match people had asked for for YEARS and they f***ed it up. I don't care if they do it next year "for real", they'll be older and slower then. It was a waste.
- Bryan/Shane and Zayn/Owens didn't do it for me. Bryan doing the stretcher job right off the bat completely took me out of it and Shane running in and kicking ass stopped me from getting back into it. Happy that Bryan's back, but this match wasn't good.
- Nia vs. Alexa was every bit as shitty as I expected. Nia is terrible and if one woman was going to win a title tonight, it should've been Asuka.
- AJ vs. Nakamura wasn't even close to their WK 10 classic, but I don't think it was bad. The outcome, however, WAS awful. Nakamura hasn't won a big one-on-one match in quite a while and they've handled him terribly in the WWE. He has been one of my favorites since New Japan and I'd love for him to say "f*** it" and head back there.
- Raw tag titles was a joke and complete cartoon bullshit. Garbage. Next.
- I skipped Brock and Roman. I don't really care for either guy at this point, but I think it's a little weird to just abandon ship on Reigns NOW. It feels like a lot of TV time was just wasted on him. And if it's true that f***ing LASHLEY is coming in to feud with Brock, then this company is headed for awful territory.
I stopped watching everything but the PPV's up until the Royal Rumble and then I started back because I thought MAYBE this company was changing. It's still dog shit in my eyes and just isn't for me. In my own personal opinion, this isn't what I consider to be wrestling and that's cool, there's a lot of shit out there to watch. But it's so disappointing to see this company shoot its self in the foot over and over. And it'll never change until Vince is gone. I'm just happy my father-in-law lets me use his Network account so I don't have to pay for any of this.
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Post by Convoy on Apr 8, 2018 23:38:28 GMT -5
I'll give it a five. Not a consistent follower of WWE (really just watch New Japan), but I kept up recently going into this show and Takeover.
Andre Battle Royal was a dud. Cruiserweight bout was solid, but not as good as those two have put one previously. Women's battle royal was a dud. IC Title match was a close #2 for match of the night. I loved Flair/Asuka for the most part, but the ending ruined the match for me. Barely any leg work, and yet a submission victory to end the streak. US title match was my dog-walking break. The mixed tag match exceeded my expectations, and even my fiancée enjoyed it. I'll call it match of the night. Smackdown tag was a glorified squash that I didn't enjoy. Taker/Cena was a total squash, but at least it spoke to the kid in me. It's a "pro" for the show in my book. I think Owens/Zayn should've won, but Dragon's return also gets a pass from me. Plus it was a feel good moment in a sea of poor matches/decisions. Jax/Bliss was a dud. As the biggest Nakamura apologist, the WWE title match was disappointing. Don't watch WWE that much, but I know Shinsuke is a shell of his former shelf due to injury. You guys are seeing a older gentleman who is coasting after a few years of everyday pain. Raw tag title match was a dud. Universal was a dud that I watched on mute.
Not the worst show I've ever seen from them, and strangely enough, probably a better Mania than usual. Still a bad show though. Definitely below Takeover.
PROS: IC title match Flair/Asuka (aside from ending) Angle/Rousey vs. HHH/Stephanie Taker/Cena "segment" Dragon's return
CONS: Literally Everything Else
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Apr 8, 2018 23:42:33 GMT -5
Ok. Thoughts.
The Battle Royal furthered the ongoing Hardy/Wyatt storyline, and I think that's pretty cool.
Ending Asuka's streak was a bit jarring, but I think it was the right choice. It was a clean loss against one of the absolute best in the division and it took place at Wrestlemania. If an undefeated streak goes on too long, it can be detrimental to storylines going forward. They can still have Asuka be dominant, but this frees her up to maybe get screwed out of a victory here and there without having something like that need to be the thing that breaks the streak.
I'm not super happy about Nakamura not winning the title, but it looks to be a part of an ongoing narrative AND it opens up the opportunity for Bryan vs Nakamura somewhere down the line. Which is life.
Speaking of Bryan, I thought his match was WAY overbooked, but ended well. I don't think they needed to stack the odds against his team THAT much, but teasing that he wouldn't actually wrestle was a pretty cool trick.
The mixed tag match was way the hell better than I thought it would be. Steph coming off as more protected than HHH was kind of baffling, but it did keep me guessing as to the eventual outcome. You know what? It wasn't even "better than I thought it would be". It was excellent, and completely blew away expectations.
I didn't know what they were going for with Cena/Undertaker until about 2 minutes in. Taker looked GREAT. He got in all four of his signatures (sit up, chokeslam, old school, and tombstone) and took very little offense, which made him look even better. A legend like the Undertaker didn't deserve to have his final match be the fiasco with Roman Reigns. He won in convincing fashion against a guy who really deserved to get crushed for what he'd said. Cena gave him his redemption, and I was all emotional thinking about that. If Taker does decide to do little 5 minute matches every year, like that, with little or no build, just to pop the crowd, I'm on board.
Braun with the little kid was goofy and fun. Not sure it deserved to be so high up on the card, but having Braun act like Gamera is cute.
And Roman/Brock. If it had to happen, I guess this was how it should have gone down. Brock beat the piss out of Roman, left him a bloody mess, dropped an F-bomb, and seemingly put an end to this idea that Roman is the chosen one, at least for the time being.
I give the show an 8/10. Not perfect, but very fun and never predictable. Never predictable, but (I feel) the twists made sense.
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Post by H-Virus on Apr 8, 2018 23:43:18 GMT -5
Well... I'm not completely pissed off like I was two years ago. And I'm not depressed like I was last year. Mostly, I'm just really baffled by most of this. There were three genuine squash matches on this Wrestlemania, and none of them were for the matches that actually should have been squashes (Rhonda; Raw Women's Title). Cena jobbed harder than he has since Summerslam 2014. Asuka lost her streak in a rather underwhelming way. The women's battle royale was awful and so was the Universal Title match. I still don't know what the hell the whole thing with Braun and the kid was about. Also, way to throw away everything you've tried to do with Roman over the last four years, WWE. Hopefully you've learned your lesson and are going to quit this shit now. We'll see.
Honestly, the only thing that truly pissed me off about tonight was Rusev getting jobbed out to f***ing Jinder. The AJ/Swag match was okay, but the heel turn at the end made up for the match feeling kind of half-assed since the feud is obviously continuing and they didn't want to go all out from the beginning..
I'm picking the weird option because I legit don't know how I felt about the show.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 8, 2018 23:44:57 GMT -5
Weird. 3 great matches, 1 good match and then. The short stuff was what it was but... the Cena segment and Undertaker match?, Nicholas? That main event? I have no idea what I'd rank this show.
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Post by the2ndevil on Apr 8, 2018 23:45:53 GMT -5
A high 8.
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Post by Chiral on Apr 8, 2018 23:47:27 GMT -5
they need to cut like 3 f***ing hours out of this shit i'm so tired
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Post by Perd on Apr 8, 2018 23:50:31 GMT -5
8. Some odd finishes. But I was entertained throughout.
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Apr 8, 2018 23:54:43 GMT -5
4
There was good stuff and it wasn't like the worst shit ever, but the bad stuff was like appallingly bad. Like, waste 3 years of time bad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 23:57:16 GMT -5
Weird/10. Numerically speaking I'd go no lower than a 3 and no higher than a 6.
The IC triple threat was meh, and solo Seth does nothing for me. Would've much preferred a Balor win. Beyond that I remember nothing about the match.
Asuka/Charlotte can **** off forever. A pretty good match ruined by the same garbage bullshit nepotism that's surrounded Charlotte her whole career. I never, ever want to hear someone complain about Alexa's push again.
I'll admit that I basically checked out of the show emotionally at this point so my opinions are colored accordingly.
The US triple threat I didn't watch but I'm happy Jinder won, and am especially happy he pinned Rusev for it. I like Rusev but think the whole Rusev Day thing is incredibly stupid.
Angle/Rousey vs Trips/Steph was waaay better than it had any right to be. Rousey's already better than Baszler and did well with her time in-ring, and beyond that Steph was inoffensive, Trips was alright as usual and Angle seemed less like a semi-animate corpse and more like an actual wrestler.
SmackDown tag titles match was fun, though short, and I'm happy the Bludgeon Bros won.
Undertaker/Cena was baffling but at least they didn't try to make it into some grandiose classic.
Bryan/Shane vs Owens/Zayn...happened. Was good to see that Bryan hasn't lost a step though.
Nia/Alexa...I saw Nia manage to botch a gorilla press slam and decided I wasn't gonna' waste my time watching, especially when the winner was obvious. Hoping Nia has a short reign.
The Bar vs Strowman and the kid was fun. As was said above, Braun being Gamera is aces in my book.
Roman/Brock was brutal, occasionally sloppy, and had a legitimately shocking ending.
I can't say I hated the show but I have zero desire to watch either Raw or SmackDown this week.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 8, 2018 23:57:47 GMT -5
I spent the entire taxi ride home from my friend's place wondering how to vote and I'm so f***ing happy "WEIRD" is an option because this felt like the most bizarre wrestling show I've ever sat through. Few things stood out to me as really good and A show material, and all the lasting impressions I have are of bafflement and confusion. My friends and I felt like we were the victim of some weird joke through so many parts of the show.
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