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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 10, 2018 19:50:57 GMT -5
So after finally watching Black Panther last night and with T’Challa going poof...if Avengers 4 does take place 5 years later...Queen Shuri? possibly... at the very least I'd expect Shuri to have the mantle of Black Panther temporarily. Queen Shuri and King M'Baku. Make it happen, Marvel.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 11, 2018 0:06:48 GMT -5
So after finally watching Black Panther last night and with T’Challa going poof...if Avengers 4 does take place 5 years later...Queen Shuri? possibly... at the very least I'd expect Shuri to have the mantle of Black Panther temporarily. But how would she be Black Panther since {Spoiler}didn’t all the herbs get destroyed?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 11, 2018 0:13:55 GMT -5
possibly... at the very least I'd expect Shuri to have the mantle of Black Panther temporarily. But how would she be Black Panther since {Spoiler}{Spoiler}didn’t all the herbs get destroyed? {Spoiler}Presumably there would be a store of seeds in reserve in the event of the herb garden being destroyed.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on May 11, 2018 8:49:36 GMT -5
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 11, 2018 10:29:48 GMT -5
Thanos, why don't you just use the Infinity Gauntlet to make there be more resources?
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Post by mo on May 11, 2018 14:24:17 GMT -5
Saw the movie the Friday it came out and just saw it again today. Goddamn that ending is incredible, I think it blew me away even more the second time even though I knew it was coming. Just an all around great movie.
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Post by chrom on May 11, 2018 14:42:35 GMT -5
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Post by hossfan on May 11, 2018 15:03:23 GMT -5
Thanos, why don't you just use the Infinity Gauntlet to make there be more resources? I thought about this too. At one point in the movie he says "the Universe is finite" and my reaction was 'Dude, when you have the Infinity Gauntlet you can do whatever you want with time and space. Just super-size it."
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 11, 2018 15:15:50 GMT -5
Thanos, why don't you just use the Infinity Gauntlet to make there be more resources? Simple answer: Thanos is a bad guy. That's the whole point. There are answers to overpopulation besides murder half of all life in the universe, but there's also answers to global anti-blackness and white supremacy that don't involve a global race war, and answers to holding the Avengers accountable that don't involve bombing the UN. Hell, we saw this as early as Phase 2, with Alexander Pierce going from "peace isn't an achievement, it's a responsibility" straight to "in league with literal Nazis".
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 11, 2018 16:16:20 GMT -5
Saw it yesterday. Man did Vision get bitched out. His whole MCU run has been so underwhelming.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 11, 2018 16:25:58 GMT -5
Saw it yesterday. Man did Vision get bitched out. His whole MCU run has been so underwhelming. The problem with Vision is he's almost too powerful for the MCU. Almost invulnerable when corporeal, completely invulnerable when incorporeal, able to fly, create matter from nothing, and shoot incredibly powerful energy beams from his head. Why does he need the rest of the Avengers? They pretty much had to nerf him, otherwise he'd have easily wiped out Thanos' forces singlehanded.
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Post by hossfan on May 11, 2018 16:53:34 GMT -5
Saw it yesterday. Man did Vision get bitched out. His whole MCU run has been so underwhelming. The problem with Vision is he's almost too powerful for the MCU. Almost invulnerable when corporeal, completely invulnerable when incorporeal, able to fly, create matter from nothing, and shoot incredibly powerful energy beams from his head. Why does he need the rest of the Avengers? They pretty much had to nerf him, otherwise he'd have easily wiped out Thanos' forces singlehanded. I don't think he's any more powerful than any of the other 'big guns' in the Marvel movies (Thor, Hulk, Iron Man), especially since he did get his ass handed to him multiple times in the latest movie.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 11, 2018 16:59:00 GMT -5
The problem with Vision is he's almost too powerful for the MCU. Almost invulnerable when corporeal, completely invulnerable when incorporeal, able to fly, create matter from nothing, and shoot incredibly powerful energy beams from his head. Why does he need the rest of the Avengers? They pretty much had to nerf him, otherwise he'd have easily wiped out Thanos' forces singlehanded. I don't think he's any more powerful than any of the other 'big guns' in the Marvel movies (Thor, Hulk, Iron Man), especially since he did get his ass handed to him multiple times in the latest movie. They had to contrive a way to depower him with the spear through the back, though. Without that he simply phase shifts into an invulnerable state and incinerates them.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 17:03:14 GMT -5
Saw it yesterday. Man did Vision get bitched out. His whole MCU run has been so underwhelming. The problem with Vision is he's almost too powerful for the MCU. Almost invulnerable when corporeal, completely invulnerable when incorporeal, able to fly, create matter from nothing, and shoot incredibly powerful energy beams from his head. Why does he need the rest of the Avengers? They pretty much had to nerf him, otherwise he'd have easily wiped out Thanos' forces singlehanded. That was something that bugged the shit out of me in the hangar fight in Civil War. Realistically Vision could've won that fight singlehandedly if he wanted to.
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Post by hossfan on May 11, 2018 17:09:03 GMT -5
I don't think he's any more powerful than any of the other 'big guns' in the Marvel movies (Thor, Hulk, Iron Man), especially since he did get his ass handed to him multiple times in the latest movie. They had to contrive a way to depower him with the spear through the back, though. Without that he simply phase shifts into an invulnerable state and incinerates them. Vision says in the movie the Black Order's weapons can hurt him while phasing. If one villain can do it others can.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 11, 2018 17:11:53 GMT -5
They had to contrive a way to depower him with the spear through the back, though. Without that he simply phase shifts into an invulnerable state and incinerates them. Vision says in the movie the Black Order's weapons can hurt him while phasing. If one villain can do it others can. Corvus Glaive's weapon stopped him from phasing, but only after he'd been run through with it.
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Post by hossfan on May 12, 2018 6:34:50 GMT -5
Vision says in the movie the Black Order's weapons can hurt him while phasing. If one villain can do it others can. Corvus Glaive's weapon stopped him from phasing, but only after he'd been run through with it. He says after he's attacked that their weapons affect him, which to me implies that they were designed in a way to hurt him no matter what state he's in, but even conceding your point, the fact is he was injured to the point of death in the film, and in every other appearance he's had in the MCU he's been shown to be vulnerable in some way. Ulton tosses him around in Avengers 2. The Scarlet Witch's powers can effect him. Pretty much any would be Avengers adversary someone can think of could come up with a way to do the same. So is Vision powerful? Sure, but he's not unstoppable, and he's certainly not too powerful to be an Avenger.
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Post by Heartbreaker on May 12, 2018 6:59:14 GMT -5
Finally saw this.
I’m depressed and want to kill myself.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 12, 2018 14:48:01 GMT -5
Goin by how wrecked the gauntlet appeared after the snap, maybe it's a case of him only bein able to do something on that scale once (I know that's not the way it works in the books); so it's a case of if he created resources enough for now, in the future it'd still be an issue.
Plus, his whole deal is balance rather than a surplus or enough.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 12, 2018 15:35:47 GMT -5
But how would she be Black Panther since {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}didn’t all the herbs get destroyed? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Presumably there would be a store of seeds in reserve in the event of the herb garden being destroyed. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}There's no way Shuri wouldn't have some seeds tucked away like, in her closet or dresser in her room somewhere. It'd be kinda deus ex machina-ish, but given how intuitive her character is, it just seems like something she'd try.
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