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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 17, 2018 22:23:30 GMT -5
He hasn't really had an aim since he lost the Chamber, he's been doing a lot of random mini feuds and such And him having the briefcase to me is cool because he might be the first guy who dont need a dude to be weak to cash in... He's been destroying everyone tho with no aim. Where does the LOLBRAUN kick in like it does for Roman?
He didn't need the case because he could have easily won a match to get a shot against Lesnar. The whole build was how do we stop Strowman and they had every gang against him and still lose
So if the aim was to build Strowman haven't they done it? The dude looked amazing out there and now he has the briefcase with the narrative "How do you stop the monster?" He's over, he's doing a good job, and the match's storytelling was pretty damn good.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jun 17, 2018 22:23:58 GMT -5
I would be good with every person in that match winning the World title. But Braun doesn’t need the briefcase. Should’ve been Kofi.
The only way this pays off is if Braun cashes in on Lesnar when he’s on Raw for a promo. Comes out, says he wants a match now, and throttles a fresh, but unprepared, Lesnar. Then beats him in a rematch at SummerSlam.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 22:24:35 GMT -5
"I left wwe in 09 cause i was taking too much"
What about 2011 jeff?
Im gonna game. Nothing turns me off more than hearing addicts tell their sob story. Change your shit. Be a better person, move on. There's nothing interesting or relevatory about your addiction.
Edit: and he just had that ridiculous d.u.i w triple legal limit while getting slap on the wrist despite lifetime of this crap.
Anyways. Thanks for fun comment section, wouldn't have made it through most of ppv.
Gonna focus on Braaaaaaun and play ff15 until i pass out.
See ya in tomorrow's raw thread, weird as that sounds to me.
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Post by Doctor No on Jun 17, 2018 22:26:52 GMT -5
So, what was the spot of the night? AJ’s forearm on Nakamura through the table, Owens falling to his death, or New Day singing Left Right Left? Braun running through a ladder held by two men and having the ladder snap. Everything else was variations ofstuff i expectto see. Bliss' lame "I'm the smallest female wrestler we got" turn splash thing.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 17, 2018 22:27:05 GMT -5
He's been destroying everyone tho with no aim. Where does the LOLBRAUN kick in like it does for Roman?
He didn't need the case because he could have easily won a match to get a shot against Lesnar. The whole build was how do we stop Strowman and they had every gang against him and still lose
So if the aim was to build Strowman haven't they done it? The dude looked amazing out there and now he has the briefcase with the narrative "How do you stop the monster?" He's over, he's doing a good job, and the match's storytelling was pretty damn good. The collateral of booking him strong is literally six of our best wrestlers couldn't overcome him when they fought against him at once
I don't really see the storytelling in making him invincible nor is it intriguing imo. You don't stop the monster because he's been proving that for the past few months. He won the tag titles by himself, won GRR and has been flattening the roster
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 17, 2018 22:28:18 GMT -5
This honestly felt like their out for killing the Money in the Bank concept. In an environment where it feels that heeldom is the default, is there any real need to continue a gimmick that further overstacks the heel sensibility? And how long does that cloud last before fans start turning away from it, bereft of any hope that things will improve or good somehow triumphs over evil?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 17, 2018 22:31:01 GMT -5
So if the aim was to build Strowman haven't they done it? The dude looked amazing out there and now he has the briefcase with the narrative "How do you stop the monster?" He's over, he's doing a good job, and the match's storytelling was pretty damn good. The collateral of booking him strong is literally six of our best wrestlers couldn't overcome him when they fought against him at once
I don't really see the storytelling in making him invincible nor is it intriguing imo. You don't stop the monster because he's been proving that for the past few months. He won the tag titles by himself, won GRR and has been flattening the roster
They kept going away from him and fighting each other. He wasnt taking all seven out "At once", they didnt keep the dude down and they were all interested in their own objective in the end. Braun was a threat, but it's not like everyone else didnt have ample opportunity to win the match and get hurt by other people to be taken OUT of the match.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 22:31:19 GMT -5
Well, I got most of my predictions tonight.
I had The Club losing to Bludgeon Brothers Lashley over Sami Bryan over Cass AJ over Nakamura Mella over Asuka Reigns over Jinder Braun for the briefcase
I also had Nia losing her title via cash-in midmatch, but I expected Natalya. The Alexa thing really feels like WWE just swerving fans for figuring out the storyline too quickly and switching Nat for Bliss. I missed Elias losing to Rollins.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 17, 2018 22:36:24 GMT -5
Watching this, I'm just glad the Hardy's are even with us still... let alone still wrestling in the WWE. Yea, Jeff was on my "waiting to die list" when he was at his worst
I'm glad to see him and Matt both have found their happy places in their lives. Helps that they both got families that helped turned them around.
Say what you will about Reby but she has helped Matt be better
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Post by hbkid718 on Jun 17, 2018 22:45:07 GMT -5
I really enjoyed MITB. I loved most of the matches and everything made sense. My site won't be updated until tomorrow or later this week, but
Here are the 2018 Facts for Money In The Bank: - Gallows & Anderson VS The Bludgeon Brothers was the 5th Smackdown Tag Team Championship Match of 2018 & the 1st since the Greatest Royal Rumble on April 27, Rowan’s 1st match since The Bludgeon Brothers defeated The Usos at the Greatest Royal Rumble on April 27, Harper & Rowan’s 1st PPV opener of 2018, & was Karl Anderson & Luke Gallows’ 1st PPV opener since WrestleMania 34 on April 8 - Daniel Bryan VS Big Cass was the 2nd match to be re-matched from Backlash, & their 2nd re-match overall - Bobby Lashley VS Sami Zayn was Zayn’s 1st match overall since he lost to Finn Balor in a Triple Threat Match on Raw on May 7, 1st 1-on-1 singles match since he wrestled Kevin Owens to a No Contest on Raw on April 9, & 1st singles match on PPV in 2018, & was Lashley’s 1st singles match on PPV since he lost to John Cena at Great American Bash on July 22, 2007 & 1st overall since he lost to Mr. Kennedy on Raw on July 20, 2007 - Seth Rollins VS Elias was the 11th Intercontinental Championship Match of 2018 & the 1st since Raw on May 28, & Elias’ 1st singles match on PPV in 2018 - Sasha Banks VS Alexa Bliss VS Charlotte Flair VS Lana VS Becky Lynch VS Ember Moon VS Naomi VS Natalya was the 1st 8-Way Match of 2018, the 3rd Ladder Match, & 1st since the Greatest Royal Rumble on April 27, Banks, Lana, Lynch, Naomi, & Natalya’s 1st PPV since WrestleMania 34 on April 7, & was Moon’s 1st PPV since the Royal Rumble on January 28 - Roman Reigns VS Jinder Mahal was Mahal’s 1st match on PPV since he lost to Jeff Hardy at Greatest Royal Rumble on April 27 Asuka VS Carmella was 5th Smackdown Women’s Championship Match of 2018 & 1st since Backlash on May 6, Carmella’s 1st singles match since she defeated Charlotte Flair at Backlash on May 6, Asuka’s 1st PPV match since she lost to Flair at WrestleMania 34 on April 8 - AJ Styles VS Shinsuke Nakamura was the 6th WWE Championship Match of 2018 & 1st since Backlash on May 6, the 2nd Last Man Standing Match of 2018 & 1st since Braun Strowman defeated Kane on Raw on January 29, the 1st on PPV since Dean Ambrose defeated Kevin Owens at the Royal Rumble on January 24, 2016, the 1st for the WWE Championship since John Cena wrestled Ryback to a No Contest at Extreme Rules on May 19, 2013, Styles’ 1st match since he lost to - Shinsuke Nakamura on Smackdown on May 15, the only match to take place at 4 straight PPVs, & their 5th re-match overall - Ronda Rousey VS Nia Jax was the 4th Raw Women’s Championship Match of 2018 & the 1st since Backlash on May 6 & was Rousey’s 1st match since she & Kurt Angle defeated Triple H & Stephanie McMahon at WrestleMania 34 on April 8, the 22nd Disqualification of 2018, the 1st since Smackdown on June 12 & the 1st for PPV in 2018 - Nia Jax VS Alexa Bliss was the 5th Raw Women’s Championship Match of 2018 & the 1st time there were 2 in the same night, were the 1st wrestlers since Sami Zayn, Cesaro, Sheamus, & Seth Rollins at the Royal Rumble on January 28 that someone competed twice on PPV in 2018, their 3rd re-match, making it the 3rd match & 2nd one tonight to be re-matched from Backlash, the 550th Match on TV & PPV in WWE & NXT in 2018, & was the 3rd Raw Women’s Title Change of 2018 & 1st since Jax defeated Alexa Bliss at WrestleMania 34 on April 8 Finn Balor VS Samoa Joe Kofi Kingston VS The Miz VS Kevin Owens VS Bobby Roode VS Rusev VS Braun Strowman was the 2nd 8-Way Match of 2018, the 4th Ladder Match of 2018 & the 1st time there were 2 on the same show, Balor, Kingston, Roode, & Rusev’s 1st PPV since the Greatest Royal Rumble on April 27, was Joe’s 2nd PPV main event in a row, Owens, Roode, Strowman, & Kingston’s 1st PPV main event since the Greatest Royal Rumble on April 27, Balor’s 1st PPV main event since Elimination Chamber on February 25, & was The Miz & Rusev’s 1st PPV main event of 2018
Here are the Facts for MITB History: - Karl Anderson & Luke Gallows VS The Bludgeon Brothers was the 7th Tag Team Championship Match in MITB History & 6th year in a row, the 1st time in MITB History that neither The New Day or The Usos competed for the Tag Team Championship, & the 1st time that The New Day were not in a Tag Team Title Match since 2014, the 9th Kickoff Match at a MITB PPV & 4th year in a row, the 7th Tag Team Match to be on the MITB Kickoff & 3rd year in a row, the 2nd Tag Team Championship Match to be on the MITB Kickoff & 1st since The Usos VS The Shield in 2013, Karl Anderson’s 2nd MITB PPV & 1st since 2016 & 2nd Tag Team Championship Match & 1st since 2016, Luke Gallows’ 2nd MITB PPV & 1st since 2016, & 2nd Tag Team Championship Match & 1st since 2016, Harper’s 2nd MITB PPV & 1st since 2014, & 2nd Tag Team Championship Match, & 1st since 2014, Rowan’s 2nd MITB PPV & 1st since 2014, & 2nd Tag Team Championship Match, & 1st since 2014, & everyone’s 1st Kickoff Match on a MITB PPV - Daniel Bryan VS Big Cass was Daniel Bryan’s 4th MITB PPV & 1st since 2013 & his 1st 1-on-1 Non-Title Match at a MITB PPV, Big Cass’ 2nd MITB PPV & 1st since 2016 & his 1st Singles Match at a MITB PPV, & was the 1st ever 1-on-1 Singles Match to open up a MITB PPV, Cass’ 1st MITB opener since 2016, & Daniel Bryan’s 1st opener since 2011 - Bobby Lashley VS Sami Zayn was Bobby Lashley’s MITB PPV debut, Sami Zayn’s 3rd MITB PPV in a row, & his 1st 1-on-1 Singles Match at a MITB PPV & the 1st time he was not in a MITB Ladder Match - Seth Rollins VS Elias was the 3rd Intercontinental Championship Match in MITB History & 1st since 2015, Seth Rollins’ 6th MITB match & 1st since 2016, & 1st Intercontinental Championship Match at a MITB PPV, but his 4th Title Match, as he defended the Tag Team Championship in 2013, retained the World Championship in 2015, won the World Championship in 2016, & lost the World Championship in 2016, & the 1st time that he was not in a match at MITB involving Roman Reigns or Dean Ambrose, & was Elias’ MITB PPV debut & 1st Intercontinental Championship Match - Sasha Banks VS Alexa Bliss VS Lana VS Becky Lynch VS Ember Moon VS Naomi VS Natalya was the 21st MITB Match in WWE History, the 14th to take place at the MITB PPV & 9th year in a row, the 8th 8-Way MITB Match & 1st since 2012, the 6th 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV, the 16th Ladder Match at a MITB PPV & 9th year in a row, was the 3rd MITB Match in a row for Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch, & Natalya, making them the 1st wrestlers, since The Miz in 2012 to compete in 3 MITB Matches in a row, & the 2nd year in a row that 3 wrestlers have previous MITB experience, the MITB debut for Sasha Banks, Alexa Bliss, Lana, Ember Moon, & Naomi, making it the 1st time since 2007 that 5 competitors made their MITB debut in the same match, Lana & Rusev were the 1st married couple to compete in MITB matches in the same year, but 2nd in history after Natalya & Tyson Kidd, but they didn’t compete in the same year, Sasha Banks, Alexa Bliss, & Ember Moon’s MITB PPV debut, Charlotte Flair’s 3rd MITB PPV in a row, 2nd MITB Match in a row, & 1st 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV, Lana’s 2nd MITB PPV in a row, & her 1st MITB Ladder Match & 1st 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV, Becky Lynch’s 3rd MITB PPV in a row, 2nd MITB Ladder Match in a row, & 1st 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV, Naomi’s 3rd MITB PPV & 2nd in a row, 1st MITB Ladder Match & 1st 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV, Natalya’s 4th MITB PPV, making her the only woman to compete in 4 matches at a MITB PPV, & 3rd in a row, her 2nd MITB Ladder Match in a row, & 1st 8-Way Ladder Match, the 3rd year in a row that Flair, Lynch, & Natalya were in the ring with each other & the 2nd year in a row that Naomi & Lana wrestled each other, Flair & Lynch join Natalya as the only women to compete in 3 MITB PPVs in a row, & Alexa Bliss was the 12th time that someone making their MITB Match debut won MITB & 2nd year in a row - Roman Reigns VS Jinder Mahal was Roman Reigns’ 5th MITB PPV & 1st since 2016, his 1st 1-on-1 Non-Title Match at a MITB PPV& the 1st time he was in a match without either Seth Rollins or Randy Orton, & was Jinder Mahal’s 2nd MITB PPV in a row & 1st Non-Title Match at a MITB PPV - Asuka VS Carmella was the 8th Women’s or Diva’s Championship Match in MITB History & 2nd year in a row, Asuka’s MITB debut & 1st Women’s Championship continuing the streak of having at least 1 wrestler make their MITB debut in a Women’s Championship Match since 2011, Carmella’s 2nd MITB PPV in a row & 1st Women’s Championship Match, & she was the 1st wrestler since Seth Rollins in 2014 & 2015 to win the MITB Match 1 year and be a defending Champion the following year - AJ Styles VS Shinsuke Nakamura was the 1st Last Man Standing Match in MITB History. the 15th WWE or World Championship Match in MITB History & 9th year in a row, AJ Styles’ 3rd MITB PPV, 1st Last Man Standing Match, & 1st WWE Championship Match at a MITB, Shinsuke Nakamura’s 2nd MITB PPV in a row & 1st Last Man Standing Match & 1st WWE Championship Match at a MITB PPV, & the 2nd year in a row at a MITB PPV that Styles & Nakamura wrestled each other, as they were both part of the MITB Match in 2017 - Ronda Rousey VS Nia Jax was the 9th Women’s or Diva’s Championship Match in MITB History & 2nd year in a row, the 1st time since 2010 that there were 2 Women’s Title Matches at a MITB PPV, both Ronda Rousey & Nia Jax’s MITB PPV debut & 1st Women’s Championship Match, Rousey was the 2nd year in a row that someone made their in-ring singles debut competing for the Women’s Title at MITB after Lana in 2017, the 1st Women’s Title Match to have both wrestlers make their MITB debuts since Alicia Fox VS Eve Torres & Kelly Kelly VS Layla in 2010, as every other Women’s Title Match had a participant that already competed at a MITB PPV prior to their match, & was the 4th Disqualification in MITB History & 1st since 2015 - Nia Jax VS Alexa Bliss was the 10th Women’s or Diva’s Championship Match in MITB History & 1st time in history there were 3 Women’s Title Matches at a MITB PPV, they were the 1st wrestlers since Dean Ambrose & Seth Rollins in 2010 to compete in multiple matches at a MITB PPV, Bliss’ 2 hours & 8 seconds was the 3rd shortest Cash-In in MITB History after Kane’s 48 minutes in 2010 & Dean Ambrose’s 57 minutes in 2016, & was the 1st ever Women’s Title Change in MITB History - Finn Balor VS Samoa Joe VS Kofi Kingston VS The Miz VS Kevin Owens VS Bobby Roode VS Braun Strowman was the 22nd MITB Match in WWE History, the 15th to take place at the MITB PPV & 9th year in a row, & 2nd year in a row that there were 2 at a MITB PPV, the 9th 8-Way MITB Match & 1st since 2012, the 7th 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV, & the 1st time since 2011 that there were 2 8-Way MITB Matches on the same show, the 17th Ladder Match at a MITB PPV & 9th year in a row & 2nd year in a row that there were 2 Ladder Matches on the same show, was Kevin Owens’ 3rd MITB Match in a row, making him, along with Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch, & Natalya, as the 1st wrestlers since The Miz in 2012 to compete in 3 MITB Matches in a row, Kingston’s 7th MITB Match, tying him with Kane for most MITB Matches, & his 1st since 2015, The Miz’s 4th MITB Match & 1st since 2012, giving him the longest gap between MITB Matches at 6 years, beating Rob Van Dam’s record of 5 years, Finn Balor, Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode, Rusev, & Braun Strowman’s MITB debut, adding to the women’s match of being the 1st time since 2007 that 5 competitors made their debut & the 1st time in history that 10 wrestlers made their MITB debut in the same year, was the 1st time since 2007 that only 3 wrestlers have previous MITB experience, & was Finn Balor, Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode, & Braun Strowman’s MITB PPV debut, Kofi Kingston’s 8th MITB PPV & 5th in a row, his 5th MITB Match at a MITB PPV & 1st since 2015, & his 3rd 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV & 1st since 2011, & the 1st time since the MITB Match in 2015 that Kofi Kingston did not compete in a Tag Team Championship Match, Kevin Owens’ 4th MITB PPV in a row, 3rd MITB Ladder Match in a row, & 1st 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV, The Miz’s 5th MITB PPV & 1st since 2013, his 4th MITB Ladder Match at a MITB PPV & 1st since 2012, & his 3rd 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV & 1st since 2011, Rusev’s 3rd MITB PPV & 1st since 2016, & his 1st MITB Ladder Match & 1st 8-Way Match at a MITB PPV, the 4th MITB Match to be the main event of a MITB PPV & 2nd year in a row, the 6th Ladder Match to be the main event of a MITB PPV & 2nd year in a row, & the 1st ever 8-Way Match to main event MITB, Kevin Owens’ 2nd MITB PPV main event in a row, making him the 1st wrestler since Dean Ambrose & Seth Rollins in 2015 & 2016 to compete in back-to-back MITB PPV main events, The Miz’s 2nd MITB PPV main event & 1st since 2012, & everyone else’s 1st MITB PPV main event, & Strowman was the 13th time that someone won the MITB match in their debut match & 2nd year in a row that both competitors won in their debut
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Post by Facetious on Jun 17, 2018 22:50:13 GMT -5
This honestly felt like their out for killing the Money in the Bank concept. In an environment where it feels that heeldom is the default, is there any real need to continue a gimmick that further overstacks the heel sensibility? And how long does that cloud last before fans start turning away from it, bereft of any hope that things will improve or good somehow triumphs over evil? I'm hoping they make it a bi-annual thing, but they're so lazy booking wise that they won't. Why build someone organically when they can cash in then work from there? If the performer doesn't get over with garbage booking, oh well we tried.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jun 17, 2018 22:52:02 GMT -5
It's not like Lesnar will be in a ring anytime soon anyway, so what's the point in giving the most dominant wrestler in WWE a cheap, heelish way to get the title? Bad on every front. They can have braun force lesnars hand. "Im cashing in next week on raw (probably sslam)". Edit: also. This may mean not another brock/roman. How does that not get you all happy? That's what I'm predicting they do.
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