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Post by rnrk supports BLM on May 16, 2018 12:58:44 GMT -5
Most interesting thing here is the declaration that Enzo wasn't contacted by police prior to the whole thing leaking onto the internet. Which could be arguing semantics, but seems to disputing the story that he knew there was an investigation and lied to WWE about it.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 12:59:17 GMT -5
Wait, did I actually read that right? He really wasn't aware of the allegations until they started blowing up on Twitter?
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 16, 2018 13:03:00 GMT -5
So Enzo learned about this the same time as everyone else. Huh.
So that changes our "Vince fired him for not telling him" thing.
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Post by Dub H on May 16, 2018 13:04:28 GMT -5
Hope the guy still manages to get by and that his life doesn't get ruined by it.Which I doubt it will be
He won't be the "mad money kanye superstar" he acted as when he was making crazy money. But he probably get solid indie work.
if he didn't know and it was false charges.Yeh bring the guy back as far i'm concerned,he was still a good talent that sold merch.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 16, 2018 13:05:23 GMT -5
So he legit got fired because of the accusation? Yikes.
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Post by Dub H on May 16, 2018 13:05:57 GMT -5
So Enzo learned about this the same time as everyone else. Huh. So that changes our "Vince fired him for not telling him" thing. I mean dude is still a goof if he was doing drugs with those kids and should've been shit canned for that, but yeah, this may change things a little bit for me if true. Well Jeff Hardy is in the roster..if they are willing to overlook THAT drug backstory..
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 16, 2018 13:07:15 GMT -5
So Enzo learned about this the same time as everyone else. Huh. So that changes our "Vince fired him for not telling him" thing. Would open up the flood gates of he was more trouble than he was worth tho and the allegation was the final straw Does change the narrative of bringing him back sooner than I thought tho if we assume he didn't lie to vince
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Post by Fade on May 16, 2018 13:07:21 GMT -5
So he legit got fired because of the accusation? Yikes. As muddy as that seems, they probably simply considered him disposable and wanted none of the possible heat.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 13:07:40 GMT -5
I mean dude is still a goof if he was doing drugs with those kids and should've been shit canned for that, but yeah, this may change things a little bit for me if true. Well Jeff Hardy is in the roster..if they are willing to overlook THAT drug backstory.. Indeed, I hope dude cleans up his act and becomes a lot easier to be around because I'd welcome him back personally even though I get why others wouldn't.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 16, 2018 13:08:31 GMT -5
I mean dude is still a goof if he was doing drugs with those kids and should've been shit canned for that, but yeah, this may change things a little bit for me if true. Well Jeff Hardy is in the roster..if they are willing to overlook THAT drug backstory.. Jeff was also not part of the roster for years and he got busted once he left WWE Him and Matt had their drug issues post WWE but they stayed clean for a good amount of time before being brought back
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 16, 2018 13:08:42 GMT -5
eh... I don't know if I believe the bit about not being told about it.
or at the very least not being cognizent of it being a possibility.
The cops would have contacted him to ask questions about the night which should have given him at least the idea it wight be a possibility.
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Post by Tenshigure on May 16, 2018 13:17:25 GMT -5
Just going to bring up the morality clause one more time for those in the back, bolded for emphasis: The accusations took place during the height of the #MeToo movement. Even if no charges were brought against him, that doesn't necessarily mean that his behavior and actions both on-screen and in the back weren't enough to get him released. Semantics time! Not really Cleared of charges as he was never brought up on charges. There's just insufficient evidence to charge him if that's true. Don't see him coming back though, he still kept that he was even being investigated from the company. Same thing happened with Rich Swann who didn't have charges brought against him either. Just because they're "in the clear" doesn't mean they didn't put themselves in a situation where such accusations could be made and could have greater merit than others whose character isn't as easily brought into question. Enzo may not have raped this girl, but he sure is well-known to be trying to "live the character" far more than he should.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 13:19:02 GMT -5
Just going to bring up the morality clause one more time for those in the back, bolded for emphasis: The accusations took place during the height of the #MeToo movement. Even if no charges were brought against him, that doesn't necessarily mean that his behavior and actions both on-screen and in the back weren't enough to get him released. Semantics time! Not really Cleared of charges as he was never brought up on charges. There's just insufficient evidence to charge him if that's true. Don't see him coming back though, he still kept that he was even being investigated from the company. Same thing happened with Rich Swann who didn't have charges brought against him either. Just because they're "in the clear" doesn't mean they didn't put themselves in a situation where such accusations could be made and could have greater merit than others whose character isn't as easily brought into question. Enzo may not have raped this girl, but he sure is well-known to be trying to "live the character" far more than he should. Yup, no disagreements here. Liked his work, but do not blame WWE for feeling he wasn't worth it anymore. There were a bunch of other things he could've been canned for.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 16, 2018 13:20:51 GMT -5
Oh good for him.
I think he’s annoying as hell and if his “lifestyle” out of the ring is his actually personality, then I enjoy watching him fail, but I do not wish a “rapist” label on anyone without solid proof and see someone erased from history.
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Post by AJ Smudgico on May 16, 2018 13:21:09 GMT -5
The only reason I don't see him coming back, is though he is innocent of the very serious allegation brought against him, he is still leading a destructive lifestyle that neither sponsors, nor families (who the product is aimed at) want to be associated with,or hear about. After the Moolah incident for Mania, the last thing WWE wants is a performer to have a private life like that of Enzo. WWE is a huge global brand now, the excessive behavior from the 80s and 90s seems hundreds of years ago and isn't accepted in today's world.
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Post by Bungle on May 16, 2018 13:22:01 GMT -5
He probably is not hated by everyone backstage either.
I say bring him back.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 13:23:39 GMT -5
He's a guy who I want on TNA just to make fun of TNA.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on May 16, 2018 13:25:43 GMT -5
If Vince or Hunter want someone that actually gets a reaction on their worthless Cruiserweight brand, Enzo is the only guy they have.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on May 16, 2018 13:26:38 GMT -5
Good for him, I don't want to see him back.
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Post by bcdx97 on May 16, 2018 13:36:28 GMT -5
Don’t worry, I’m sure plenty of people will still think he’s guilty, no matter what.
He is certainly a sleazy guy with sleazy friends, though.
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