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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jun 16, 2022 14:13:43 GMT -5
For sure. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Anakin is supposed to be around 18-19 in Attack of the Clones, and Hayden is very obviously around 40 in that scene. It might have worked better if they'd set the scene closer to Revenge of the Sith. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} I have been thinking about this. I wonder if this was a choice to make it seem it was in Obi-wan’s head and he cannot see Vader as a half-man/half-robot, so it’s just how he still imagines Anakin as a person. So this is how he imagines their current battle of wits to be, but seeing Anakin as he should have aged. {Spoiler}Yeah, but Anakin still has both his hands in the flashback. Would Obi Wan picture him like that when the vision he had of him in episode 3 seemed to have his robot hand.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 16, 2022 14:54:37 GMT -5
Ok, that episode was awesome and that lightsaber duel was fantastic. Really made Vader seem like an unstoppable force of nature, just with how easy and casually he made. They also made his slow movements look more measured and precise--like he doesn't have to zip around and move fast the way jedi do because he's so in control. Brilliant. Negative {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Reva's plot armor. Get the f*** out of here would Vader leave her to die alone. ESPECIALLY after Obi-Wan made the same mistake with him.
That was bollocks. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Vader may see potential in her to be his apprentice. So he tests her. If she survives and keeps coming after him then she is worthy. It is his duty after all to attempt to overthrow Sidious. And a desire to kill your master is a desirable trait to a Sith.
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Post by thechase on Jun 17, 2022 5:35:03 GMT -5
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jun 17, 2022 5:41:41 GMT -5
Finally, those that were holding off what they thought of the show can now express their “honest” opinion.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 17, 2022 21:31:52 GMT -5
I think you could pick apart a LOT of this show but it’s enjoyable enough that I don’t care. Probably just below Mandalorian season 1 But Jesus Christ, Bail, up your OPSEC on those messages Stolen from Reddit {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Hey Obi Wan Kenobi, Bail Organa here. Haven't heard any updates about your mission to rescue my adopted daughter Leia and was just checking in. I'm going to Tatooine to see how Leia's twin brother Luke Skywalker is getting along at Owen and Beru's farm. I can never remember if the address is 175 West Judland Blvd. or 176, but it's out past Tosche station so how hard can it be to find? Anyway I sent a few dozen of these message pucks out across the galaxy to let you know I'm keeping a low profile to avoid the watchful eye of Luke and Leia's dad, Darth Vader. Still crazy to me how he used to be Anakin Skywalker. Oh well, hope you're doing good, haven't heard anything from the Emperor, think we've really got him fooled this time!
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 17, 2022 23:47:35 GMT -5
Up to being into episode 4 now. I will say that... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} JEJ sounds a LOT better in this series than he did in Rogue One. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} I heard it’s an audio program to reproduce his voice. So basically AI JEJ {Spoiler} I think JEJ recorded all the dialogue but that it’s heavily modified to prevent another Rogue One situation. Dude is like 90
EDIT: Just looked it up, 91. Holy shit, go James Earl Jones!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 18, 2022 8:03:55 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I heard it’s an audio program to reproduce his voice. So basically AI JEJ {Spoiler}I think JEJ recorded all the dialogue but that it’s heavily modified to prevent another Rogue One situation. Dude is like 90
EDIT: Just looked it up, 91. Holy shit, go James Earl Jones! {Spoiler}Respeecher is listed in the credits, which is the company that makes the software used to create Luke's voice in Mando and Book of Boba. What I've read is that Hayden performs the lines, which are used as a reference for Respeecher to recreate them in JEJ's voice.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 18, 2022 8:04:43 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think JEJ recorded all the dialogue but that it’s heavily modified to prevent another Rogue One situation. Dude is like 90
EDIT: Just looked it up, 91. Holy shit, go James Earl Jones! {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Respeecher is listed in the credits, which is the company that makes the software used to create Luke's voice in Mando and Book of Boba. What I've read is that Hayden performs the lines, which are used as a reference for Respeecher to recreate them in JEJ's voice. I stand corrected
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 18, 2022 9:16:37 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Respeecher is listed in the credits, which is the company that makes the software used to create Luke's voice in Mando and Book of Boba. What I've read is that Hayden performs the lines, which are used as a reference for Respeecher to recreate them in JEJ's voice. I stand corrected {Spoiler}It's not been 100% confirmed. Respeecher have been very cagey about answering the question (and are based in Ukraine, so obviously have more important things on their minds), but given their software is exclusively for cloning voices and there's been no other likely candidate on the show for it to be used on, it all adds up.
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Post by thechase on Jun 22, 2022 3:49:00 GMT -5
Finale was pretty solid {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Kenobi cleans Vader's clock in an epic lightsaber duel, Darth brings clarity to the 'betrayed and murdered your father' line from ANH by admitting he destroyed himself, Vader even ends up with the high ground at one point. Liam Neeson and Ian MacDiarmid cameo as Qui Gon and Palpatine, they played the imperial march, and the "hello there" line made a return as Kenobi briefly greets a young Luke
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 22, 2022 4:32:42 GMT -5
Excellent finale. It hit all the right notes, and gave us a satisfying conclusion. Overall, I think it's been a good show. A few pacing issues, a bit too much padding of the runtimes, and the score was disappointing, but McGregor and Ingram were outstanding throughout and Christensen has been thoroughly redeemed. If the teases of a second season turn out to be nothing, this is a good place to end Obi-Wan's story. Finale was pretty solid {Spoiler}Kenobi cleans Vader's clock in an epic lightsaber duel, Darth brings clarity to the 'betrayed and murdered your father' line from ANH by admitting he destroyed himself, Vader even ends up with the high ground at one point. Liam Neeson and Ian MacDiarmid cameo as Qui Gon and Palpatine, they played the imperial march, and the "hello there" line made a return as Kenobi briefly greets a young Luke {Spoiler}I like how they clean up the issue with Kenobi calling Vader "Darth" in ANH.
Also, Neeson barely holding back that accent of his. I half expected him to invite Kenobi to hunt for his pot o' gold.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 22, 2022 4:44:20 GMT -5
After episode 4, I was a little worried how the show would finish things due to what seemed like them basically wasting an episode in what was a limited supply of episodes. But these last two episodes redeemed pretty much everything. I gotta be honest, for me this is probably my favorite live-action entry in the Disney era of Star Wars.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 22, 2022 4:46:09 GMT -5
After episode 4, I was a little worried how the show would finish things due to what seemed like them basically wasting an episode in what was a limited supply of episodes. But these last two episodes redeemed pretty much everything. I gotta be honest, for me this is probably my favorite live-action entry in the Disney era of Star Wars. I think I'd put the first season of Mando ahead of it, but only just. It beats the shit out of Book of Boba and takes Mando 2's lunch money, though. More like this, please, Disney.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jun 22, 2022 8:32:51 GMT -5
I thoroughly enjoyed that.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 22, 2022 9:10:40 GMT -5
{Spoiler}The split helmet, with Anakin and Vader voice alternating. Fantastic. Showing that there is still a small part of Anakin inside, fighting against Vader.
And explains why Palpatine doesn't want Vader to go after Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan's a connection to the past for him, Palpatine is afraid that Obi-Wan can pull Anakin back to the Light Side, destroying Vader and ending Palpatine. Palpatine can't have that.
We finally got Qui-Gon, and Obi-Wan said the line.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Jun 22, 2022 10:05:32 GMT -5
There are no words to describe how great that was. You're obviously painted into a corner since neither Vader nor Obi-Wan could die. Nonetheless, the action was fantastic and the emotion was incredibly real. I chopped onions throughout the episode.
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Post by Larryhausen on Jun 22, 2022 10:34:06 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Give me a show of Reva, Ice Cube's clone, and Quinlan Vos running The Path right the hell now. It's not even noon and I need a stiff drink and a smoke after watching that. That might be one of the best pieces of Star Wars media I have ever witnessed.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jun 22, 2022 11:10:56 GMT -5
I finished watching it--excellent. The first episode was very mediocre, but it got better and better and that final episode. Wow!
Amazing how Disney's Star Wars movies can be absolute trollop, yet their TV shows so good. Boba Fett was decent, but Mandalorian and Obi Wan were both excellent.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 22, 2022 11:17:09 GMT -5
I finished watching it--excellent. The first episode was very mediocre, but it got better and better and that final episode. Wow! Amazing how Disney's Star Wars movies can be absolute trollop, yet their TV shows so good. Boba Fett was decent, but Mandalorian and Obi Wan were both excellent. They never should have hired JJ Abrams unless he was willing to be involved in the entire trilogy and had a plan mapped out for the entire story and a character bible. The movies might not have been any better but at least they would have been consistent. Or better yet have someone else do that and let Abrams be a hired gun. Force Awakens was still a mostly fine nostalgia trip that just needed some story tweaks and to be followed up properly.
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Post by Larryhausen on Jun 22, 2022 12:21:26 GMT -5
Two more things:
Leia naming her son Ben makes a LOT more sense now.
Someone needs to redub that ending scene into the credits with the John Williams score. Like right now.
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