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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 18, 2018 14:56:15 GMT -5
Im not seeing whats so awful about these medical protocols. Oh no. They’re making sure he’s completely healthy all the time. What monsters? I’ll take that over him having to get a piece of his skull removed to relieve brain swelling like Shibata. I mean, are doing this with anyone else? Ziggler has a history of concussions, does he go through this? Why are you trying to paint extra medical coverage as a bad thing?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 18, 2018 14:57:38 GMT -5
I mean, are doing this with anyone else? Ziggler has a history of concussions, does he go through this? Bryan is getting additional medical care and treatment provided by his employer. In no world is that a negative. Exactly. As I said in the OP I hope everyone on the roster gets that at some point if they could manage it
Obviously not after every match but something manageable
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Post by RedSmile on May 18, 2018 15:02:34 GMT -5
I mean, are doing this with anyone else? Ziggler has a history of concussions, does he go through this? I dunno. But does it matter? He’s being taken care of and it’s not hurting him so who cares? Yeah it matters. He's been cleared to wrestle by multiple doctors. Cleared to wrestle full-time. He's as healthy as anyone else. This special protocol is not about protecting Bryan. It's about what Bryan had to agree to just to get back in the ring. If it were about protecting people with concussion history, then this would be applied to any and all people on the roster who have that in their history.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 18, 2018 15:05:04 GMT -5
I dunno. But does it matter? He’s being taken care of and it’s not hurting him so who cares? Yeah it matters. He's been cleared to wrestle by multiple doctors. Cleared to wrestle full-time. He's as healthy as anyone else. This special protocol is not about protecting Bryan. It's about what Bryan had to agree to just to get back in the ring. If it were about protecting people with concussion history, then this would be applied to any and all people on the roster who have that in their history. But why is this a problem? Because he’s getting special medical treatment and is being taken care of more than others? Still not really seeing the evil WWE narrative here.
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Post by RedSmile on May 18, 2018 15:05:21 GMT -5
I mean, are doing this with anyone else? Ziggler has a history of concussions, does he go through this? Why are you trying to paint extra medical coverage as a bad thing? Why do so many people believe that Daniel Bryan is going to fall dead, the moment he takes a bad bump?
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 18, 2018 15:06:27 GMT -5
I dunno. But does it matter? He’s being taken care of and it’s not hurting him so who cares? Yeah it matters. He's been cleared to wrestle by multiple doctors. Cleared to wrestle full-time. He's as healthy as anyone else. This special protocol is not about protecting Bryan. It's about what Bryan had to agree to just to get back in the ring. If it were about protecting people with concussion history, then this would be applied to any and all people on the roster who have that in their history. How many active wrestlers in WWE had to retire already due to head trauma that came back anyways? How many wrestlers with a concussion history have admitted seizures due to brain damage? This is for his protection so if anything starts up they know immediately.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 18, 2018 15:08:13 GMT -5
Why are you trying to paint extra medical coverage as a bad thing? Why do so many people believe that Daniel Bryan is going to fall dead, the moment he takes a bad bump? Your not answering the question. Nobody forced Bryan into the extra coverage, he himself came up with that idea Extra medical coverage is a luxury and can be argued he’s actually ahead of the curve because he knows what’s going on with his brain at all times If he feels a little ache and pain, WWE will help relieve it
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 18, 2018 15:08:26 GMT -5
Why are you trying to paint extra medical coverage as a bad thing? Why do so many people believe that Daniel Bryan is going to fall dead, the moment he takes a bad bump? You're making assumptions and putting words in peoples mouth with this post.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on May 18, 2018 15:15:39 GMT -5
I really hope Bryan gets the f*** out of WWE. The man's healthy, the man went to three experts that told him he's healthy. The man wants to wrestle, he shouldn't have jump through these stupid hoops. Bryan "walking off" concussions; how much of that is because of Vince looking down on concussion prone talent? NO! NO! NO! If he leaves, how in the hell am I going to follow him?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 15:15:43 GMT -5
This place has changed these past few months.
You've got people questioning why Bryan is doing all these extra procedures for his health (when he's the one that suggested it and it's for his HEALTH) compared to Ziggler, you've got people making the most outlandish comments and taking it to extremes in any Hogan thread, you've got people making brutal comments in that Enzo thread and more than that it seems like the negativity has grown in all places. You can't even make a positive thread (like this one given it's based on Bryan returning and how they're PROTECTING THIS MAN FROM DYING WHILE HE FOLLOWS HIS DREAMS) and people put a negative spin on it. In any positive thread there seems to be some people out to turn it into a landfill due to the negativity surrounding the product and in society in general.
I don't know what it's going to take for this place to change back but shit needs to happen. I just want good fun threads back with no bullshit. Like, how did we even get into a talk about this Bryan thing being negative? Jesus Christ.
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Post by RedSmile on May 18, 2018 15:16:39 GMT -5
Ok, let me take a different angle.
Why does Daniel Bryan need special concussion protocols, when he's been cleared for full-time wrestling? I'm not asking, nor stating, that it's bad that he gets extra attention, and I am well aware that it was his idea. I'm asking why it's necessary for him, and only him?
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Post by Chiral on May 18, 2018 15:17:18 GMT -5
Heard the interview the other day, it's pretty great. Bryan's not as stupid as people might think he is. The guy clearly know he's got something to protect and I'm not talking about just his health, I'm talking about mostly his family. Speaking of which, which wrestling podcasts do you all prefer? I honestly listen to Edge and Christian's the most, the light-hearted non-serious nature of it feels better. Jericho's is dope but man it's like everytime he speaks he's trying to put himself over lmao. Austin's is dope too, I love his standard "everyday man" insight to everything. E&C is definitely the best I've listened to. Jericho frequently sounds too much like he's in an ad even when he's just talking normal.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 18, 2018 15:19:36 GMT -5
Ok, let me take a different angle. Why does Daniel Bryan need special concussion protocols, when he's been cleared for full-time wrestling? I'm not asking, nor stating, that it's bad that he gets extra attention, and I am well aware that it was his idea. I'm asking why it's necessary for him, and only him? Because of the severity of his initial condition. WWE doesn't want any fault on their hands just in case.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 15:21:45 GMT -5
Ok, let me take a different angle. Why does Daniel Bryan need special concussion protocols, when he's been cleared for full-time wrestling? I'm not asking, nor stating, that it's bad that he gets extra attention, and I am well aware that it was his idea. I'm asking why it's necessary for him, and only him? Find us some quotes from other wrestlers suggesting he go through these procedures and we'll talk. Orton himself was the one who suggested he do extra stretches to prevent injuries for himself. This is Bryan's own idea to reassure not only him but his family and the company that he's ok. Heard the interview the other day, it's pretty great. Bryan's not as stupid as people might think he is. The guy clearly know he's got something to protect and I'm not talking about just his health, I'm talking about mostly his family. Speaking of which, which wrestling podcasts do you all prefer? I honestly listen to Edge and Christian's the most, the light-hearted non-serious nature of it feels better. Jericho's is dope but man it's like everytime he speaks he's trying to put himself over lmao. Austin's is dope too, I love his standard "everyday man" insight to everything. E&C is definitely the best I've listened to. Jericho frequently sounds too much like he's in an ad even when he's just talking normal. I find it funny how in Jericho's podcast midway the audio quality changes and you know he's leading into an ad. Like, I get it but I've never noticed it anywhere as much as I notice it in Jericho's show.
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Post by BRAINFADE on May 18, 2018 15:24:57 GMT -5
Here's where I stand on it. The extra medical coverage is, of course, a good thing. Bryan has a history of concussions and he is being smart about it. I hope this is a step in the right direction for other wrestlers getting better protection.
My problem is that Bryan himself had to come up with this solution to get WWE to finally clear him. This is after a year of every doctor he saw who isn't on the WWE payroll said he was fine and cleared to wrestle. I think they have jerked him around for a year, in a lot of ways for their own needs.
I'm probably going to get some heat for saying this, but it's what I think- I think it's awfully convenient that they cleared him a few months before his contract was up. I think they realised he was serious about walking if they weren't going to clear him, and they didn't want him going and making money for somebody else.
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Post by RedSmile on May 18, 2018 15:25:15 GMT -5
Ok, let me take a different angle. Why does Daniel Bryan need special concussion protocols, when he's been cleared for full-time wrestling? I'm not asking, nor stating, that it's bad that he gets extra attention, and I am well aware that it was his idea. I'm asking why it's necessary for him, and only him? Because of the severity of his initial condition. WWE doesn't want any fault on their hands just in case. Ok, and if his condition is that severe. Is he still doing big bumps like the diving headbutt? Has his schedule been lightened?
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Post by sunnytaker on May 18, 2018 15:26:25 GMT -5
I would have gotten another doc's opinion as well considering that even bugs bunny would point at the current wwe doc and say "what a maroon"
i'll see myself out
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Post by eJm on May 18, 2018 15:37:44 GMT -5
Here's where I stand on it. The extra medical coverage is, of course, a good thing. Bryan has a history of concussions and he is being smart about it. I hope this is a step in the right direction for other wrestlers getting better protection. My problem is that Bryan himself had to come up with this solution to get WWE to finally clear him. This is after a year of every doctor he saw who isn't on the WWE payroll said he was fine and cleared to wrestle. I think they have jerked him around for a year, in a lot of ways for their own needs. I'm probably going to get some heat for saying this, but it's what I think- I think it's awfully convenient that they cleared him a few months before his contract was up. I think they realised he was serious about walking if they weren't going to clear him, and they didn't want him going and making money for somebody else. I think there’s a bit from column A and a bit from column B. If Bryan didn’t come up with a way for him to get cleared and left, he would have ended up going out on his own and WWE would have lost revenue, hence getting him in a GM role to keep him around. The fact he DID pitch an idea and Vince needed people that can genuinely draw eyes to the show probably meshed together well for it to happen. I mean, if Bryan doesn’t sign a new contract that kind of puts the gamble out of wack but that’s how I saw it at the time.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 18, 2018 15:41:38 GMT -5
Because of the severity of his initial condition. WWE doesn't want any fault on their hands just in case. Ok, and if his condition is that severe. Is he still doing big bumps like the diving headbutt? Has his schedule been lightened? I think he's only had SEVEN (ok I'm sure this time) matches since returning. And yes he's toned down his style considerably. edit: had to change that match count, he's had more than I thought initially.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 18, 2018 15:58:43 GMT -5
This place has changed these past few months. You've got people questioning why Bryan is doing all these extra procedures for his health (when he's the one that suggested it and it's for his HEALTH) compared to Ziggler, you've got people making the most outlandish comments and taking it to extremes in any Hogan thread, you've got people making brutal comments in that Enzo thread and more than that it seems like the negativity has grown in all places. You can't even make a positive thread (like this one given it's based on Bryan returning and how they're PROTECTING THIS MAN FROM DYING WHILE HE FOLLOWS HIS DREAMS) and people put a negative spin on it. In any positive thread there seems to be some people out to turn it into a landfill due to the negativity surrounding the product and in society in general. I don't know what it's going to take for this place to change back but shit needs to happen. I just want good fun threads back with no bullshit. Like, how did we even get into a talk about this Bryan thing being negative? Jesus Christ. Exactly. I can't see why it is a bad idea he has extra medical coverage and something he proposed
Why can't things just be simple
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