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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 17:05:15 GMT -5
He's probably right but the main roster guys aren't rewarded for their 'fire' like the NXT guys are. Yea, whether he's speaking in character or not this is it here Cien Almas bombed for a year before he turned it around and was the quintessential jobber to the stars guy Velveteen Dream another example of having to start over after a bad start
NXT guys are usually put in better situations to be fired up too. NXT characters in general are always written to be chasing after something, which has to be easier for the wrestlers to immerse themselves in. WWE doesn't really do much to create stakes in their matches, Roman goes up against Brock in the match of his life and his whole stance the entire time is "eh I'm probably gonna beat ya." They just put names together, never feels like anyone is fighting from under or that they aren't just gonna get 3 more chances in a month, and the characters themselves are written as if they're just passively waiting for shit to happen.
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on May 23, 2018 17:08:14 GMT -5
I just imagine Drew stomping on Tyler Breeze's phone while he says this.
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Post by bob on May 23, 2018 17:11:32 GMT -5
Drew on a mission to get the heatz!!!
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on May 23, 2018 17:24:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure if he's speaking in character or if that's how he sincerely feels...or both, but the sooner men can stop being pro-occupied with worrying about what a 'real man' is the faster we can evolve and not abuse ourselves and fall into an abyss of depression, self harm, or something even worse. Something that plagued a previous generation of wrestlers. And something currently plaguing countless amounts of young men on the internet who feel the need to be 'alpha males' like Drew described and act in a way that doesn't reflect actual reality. I'm glad there is no tension, fighting, or bullying in the locker room. We have evolved and people with Drew's mindset belongs in the 50s. simply....wow. I'm not sure how someone could spin what he said into something so negative. Good grief. lol, looking back, I admittedly did derail and go off on a bit of a rant there.
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Post by Hurbster on May 23, 2018 17:35:17 GMT -5
People do realize he is in character, right ?
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Post by HMARK Center on May 23, 2018 17:50:36 GMT -5
I'm guessing this is kayfabe'd, but it does kind of touch on something that keeps me from watching much NXT.
The ultimate goal for NXT wrestlers is to make it to the main roster. Unfortunately, a lot of great (or at least good) NXT talent has gone on to the main roster and done diddly-squat, or been derailed in other ways. It makes it harder for me to get really invested in what goes on in NXT when I don't feel like the characters are building to a bigger, greater creative goal; obviously the main roster is a greater financial/fame goal, but as a fan it's hard to get excited for your favorites when it feels like the big goal is "move on to this bigger but so much less enjoyable show, where there's a really good chance you won't really be booked like a star."
Obviously that hasn't been the case for everyone from NXT, but it's a general vibe for me.
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Post by Rave on May 23, 2018 22:02:48 GMT -5
Look at your tag partner before you say these things, Drew.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on May 23, 2018 22:29:24 GMT -5
It’s almost as if those in NXT haven’t had their spirits broken by being horribly misused yet.
Also, this was an in-character interview, yes.
Oh, and McIntyre is f***ing awesome and I hope he gets pushed to the damn moon.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 23:45:23 GMT -5
Drew has become monumentally tedious in character work over the last few years.
How can you keep talking about passion and fire in a) such an emotionless monotone and b) lost anything that made you interesting in your 1st run?
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Post by The Foreigner™: OffSZN on May 24, 2018 0:14:42 GMT -5
Drew Mac is extremely dedicated to his "I love NXT" gimmick!
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on May 24, 2018 5:47:49 GMT -5
Drew has been about DIS BUSINESS since 2012
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 8:34:09 GMT -5
They have fire in their eyes because they don't know how bad it's about to get when they make that move up, despite dozens of examples.
Also I think he could be implying that a WWE vs. NXT rivalry is (a) a thing that should happen, and (b) is just like what WWF vs. WCW was.
It's what WWF vs. WCW Invasion was.
Shit.
Just wrassle, bro.
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Post by eJm on May 24, 2018 8:47:45 GMT -5
I'm guessing this is kayfabe'd, but it does kind of touch on something that keeps me from watching much NXT. The ultimate goal for NXT wrestlers is to make it to the main roster. Unfortunately, a lot of great (or at least good) NXT talent has gone on to the main roster and done diddly-squat, or been derailed in other ways. It makes it harder for me to get really invested in what goes on in NXT when I don't feel like the characters are building to a bigger, greater creative goal; obviously the main roster is a greater financial/fame goal, but as a fan it's hard to get excited for your favorites when it feels like the big goal is "move on to this bigger but so much less enjoyable show, where there's a really good chance you won't really be booked like a star." Obviously that hasn't been the case for everyone from NXT, but it's a general vibe for me. I get what you're saying but, strangely, this is what's appealing to me about NXT right now. Like, you get to see everything good and pure and creative before it all goes wrong and people post threads about how bad those people are. That does sound really strange and shouldn't make sense when it should be the other way around, but that's the way it feels to me personally.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 8:48:35 GMT -5
Easy to have fire and passion when it has not been snuffed out by the creative equivilent to dirt.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on May 24, 2018 9:21:26 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't understand why they hire guys like DMac and Lashley when they revert to booking them like they did the first time around. It's so stupid.
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Post by bootytea on May 24, 2018 10:32:47 GMT -5
The thing with Drew is I'm not really seeing his character project his passion or pride. The guy is instead coming across as really dull.
I do see what he is saying, but without any viable competition, I doubt anyone wants to rock the boat. At least you could go to WCW if you felt unappreciated, but guys now can still make a decent income doing as little work as possible.
It also doesn't help that WWE doesn't have much character progression. There's only so much a performer can do without a creative that knows how to use them. For instance, Drew should be staying away from the mic quite honestly.
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Post by sportatorium on May 24, 2018 10:45:03 GMT -5
This really feels like a worked interview, but he also may really feel this way, and helped create thengimmick based on those feeelings. This isn’t a heel gimmick at all though.
It would become a heel gimmick if he was on TV & used the excuse of his opponent not being authentic or fired up as a means of ducking them. Saying things like “you don’t deserve to wrestle me” & then attacking them.
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Post by RedSmile on May 24, 2018 11:06:21 GMT -5
"As I was hurt, I had time to sit back and watch the show, and was able to watch more wrestling than I have in a long time because I have been so busy in general. I was really sitting back and watching WWE Raw and studying it, and I noticed basically that it wasn't necessarily all killer. They have some great athletes, obviously, but they don't necessarily... they don't look like they should be there. I went backstage in one of their shows, and I said this in another interview on WWE.com, and I noticed that the atmosphere was a bit different than when I was first here. There wasn't any tension in the air. There was a lack of that competitive spirit backstage with each other. "Back in the day, WWE and WCW used to have this rivalry, and the reason why they were so good was because they had to bring their 'A Game' every single week until it closed. WWE had all these alpha males; they had the best of the best all fighting for the top spot, and made great TV for the fans and it grew the audience and that was a great thing about it, but now there is only a few people willing to fight for the top spot which means that we have 3 hours of Raw and 2 hours of SmackDown, that is a lot of open air of people who are just happy to be there and happy to be in WWE, and do what is asked of them, and collecting a paycheck. Now, whenever I look at the screen and since I've been doing this for a long time, I can look into their eyes and tell if they want to be here, and if they have that fire into their eyes, and when I don't see that it frustrates me. I know down in NXT there is about 100 people with that fire in their eyes who are willing to take that spot from them in that second, so I am here to start eradicating the people that don't want to be here, and to set an example for everybody and bring back the way things used to be." wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0523/641158/drew-mcintrye-says-wwe-talent-dont-have-that-fire-like-in-nxt-or/...says the guy who was slumming it with Slater and Jinder a couple of short years ago.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 24, 2018 12:03:41 GMT -5
I'm guessing this is kayfabe'd, but it does kind of touch on something that keeps me from watching much NXT. The ultimate goal for NXT wrestlers is to make it to the main roster. Unfortunately, a lot of great (or at least good) NXT talent has gone on to the main roster and done diddly-squat, or been derailed in other ways. It makes it harder for me to get really invested in what goes on in NXT when I don't feel like the characters are building to a bigger, greater creative goal; obviously the main roster is a greater financial/fame goal, but as a fan it's hard to get excited for your favorites when it feels like the big goal is "move on to this bigger but so much less enjoyable show, where there's a really good chance you won't really be booked like a star." Obviously that hasn't been the case for everyone from NXT, but it's a general vibe for me. I get what you're saying but, strangely, this is what's appealing to me about NXT right now. Like, you get to see everything good and pure and creative before it all goes wrong and people post threads about how bad those people are. That does sound really strange and shouldn't make sense when it should be the other way around, but that's the way it feels to me personally. It gets increasingly frustrating having to watch every show through the "How are the boards going snark on/shit on this?" filter.
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Post by eJm on May 24, 2018 12:24:51 GMT -5
I get what you're saying but, strangely, this is what's appealing to me about NXT right now. Like, you get to see everything good and pure and creative before it all goes wrong and people post threads about how bad those people are. That does sound really strange and shouldn't make sense when it should be the other way around, but that's the way it feels to me personally. It gets increasingly frustrating having to watch every show through the "How are the boards going snark on/shit on this?" filter. Honestly, I don’t pay attention to that stuff because at this point, it’s more the product looking them bad/talent knowing they only need to do just enough to stay on the main roster than it is about the talent and their own back history with stuff. Which leads to the overall point I have in that WWE knows what their talent can do in NXT but if the talent doesn’t suit what they want on the main roster then why not change the system to make it work overall for them?
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