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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 12, 2020 16:22:24 GMT -5
Yeah, if he was going to escape this he would have died on the operating table He's used all his excuses he could to escape from prison and like Cosby he will sit in there until he dies or is close to death You mean like Jeffrey Epstein? Again don't be surprised if the next headline we see is "Weinstein committed suicide in cell" or "Weinstein has died." You mean the 100 conspiracy theories people have put on his suicide. That’s jumping through hoops
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Mar 12, 2020 16:31:01 GMT -5
You mean like Jeffrey Epstein? Again don't be surprised if the next headline we see is "Weinstein committed suicide in cell" or "Weinstein has died." You mean the 100 conspiracy theories people have put on his suicide. That’s jumping through hoops Believe what you want. Some might view it as over the top conspiracy theories, others will view the situation as suspicious. Given their resources and connections it's not that far fetched.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 12, 2020 16:37:44 GMT -5
Pretty much everything about Epstein is out there now. We know he had powerful friends and associated with prominent people. Most have weathered the fallout with no serious consequences or direct evidence of wrongdoing. So none of the most famous people linked with him would have had reason to kill him. The most likely explanation is that he was a privileged twat who knew he was f***** so he decided to bail.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 12, 2020 16:46:21 GMT -5
You mean the 100 conspiracy theories people have put on his suicide. That’s jumping through hoops Believe what you want. Some might view it as over the top conspiracy theories, others will view the situation as suspicious. Given their resources and connections it's not that far fetched. But theories are only that, theories So everything with Weinstein will only be a theory. He's done time and he will be doing time, there is no getting around that
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 12, 2020 17:07:39 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Mar 12, 2020 17:35:37 GMT -5
Pretty much everything about Epstein is out there now. We know he had powerful friends and associated with prominent people. Most have weathered the fallout with no serious consequences or direct evidence of wrongdoing. So none of the most famous people linked with him would have had reason to kill him. The most likely explanation is that he was a privileged twat who knew he was f***** so he decided to bail. And yet the guards watching him just so happened to go on break, the security cameras broke, and the ones watching them fell asleep all at the same time
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 12, 2020 18:53:07 GMT -5
Pretty much everything about Epstein is out there now. We know he had powerful friends and associated with prominent people. Most have weathered the fallout with no serious consequences or direct evidence of wrongdoing. So none of the most famous people linked with him would have had reason to kill him. The most likely explanation is that he was a privileged twat who knew he was f***** so he decided to bail. And yet the guards watching him just so happened to go on break, the security cameras broke, and the ones watching them fell asleep all at the same time None of which proves anything. The camera issue can be explained as a mere technical problem. The failure of the guards that night would have given him an opportunity to kill himself, rather the death being evidence of their complicity.
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Post by chrom on Mar 12, 2020 21:01:56 GMT -5
And yet the guards watching him just so happened to go on break, the security cameras broke, and the ones watching them fell asleep all at the same time None of which proves anything. The camera issue can be explained as a mere technical problem. The failure of the guards that night would have given him an opportunity to kill himself, rather the death being evidence of their complicity. Baloney. A prison like that he was in doesn't have faulty equipment for their cells and the guards sure as heck don't leave their posts withput someone filing in or take a nap when guarding a guy on suicide watch.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 12, 2020 21:50:16 GMT -5
Prisons are notoriously underfunded, so yeah faulty equipment is par for the course in most of them.
besides that as prisons fall under the government they have to take the lowest bid on things... and usually the things that are the lowest bid... are pretty shit quality.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 12, 2020 21:53:28 GMT -5
Prisons are notoriously underfunded, so yeah faulty equipment is par for the course in most of them. besides that as prisons fall under the government they have to take the lowest bid on things... and usually the things that are the lowest bid... are pretty shit quality. In the end, if you take it at face value it was the perfect shit storm Right or wrong they didn't give a f*** about that man and one slip up is all it took for him to get his chance to end it himself
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 12, 2020 22:14:18 GMT -5
Kate Beckinsale's recent post about him was sad to read. Where he called her a c*** for not wearing a dress to his premiere.
But why did nobody step in before now? Lena Headey said she was warned about him, Kate Beckinsale got verbally abused by him, he bullied countless other women... and in public (Steve Coogan said he did it in front of him in a recent interview, and to be fair, did confront him about it)
I'm sorry, but if I saw someone hurling abusr at someone for not wearing a dress to a premiere, I'd chin him. Yet he was allowed to get away with it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 12, 2020 22:18:43 GMT -5
Kate Beckinsale's recent post about him was sad to read. Where he called her a c*** for not wearing a dress to his premiere. But why did nobody step in before now? Lena Headey said she was warned about him, Kate Beckinsale got verbally abused by him, he bullied countless other women... and in public (Steve Coogan said he did it in front of him in a recent interview, and to be fair, did confront him about it) I'm sorry, but if I saw someone hurling abusr at someone for not wearing a dress to a premiere, I'd chin him. Yet he was allowed to get away with it. It is like R Kelly, people knew about this shit for years but they deemed it part of the norm of this person and it was never reprimanded like it should have been People like them reach a really high power level in the industry and were untouchable at the time but your time of reckoning eventually comes
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 12, 2020 22:19:45 GMT -5
On another note. The people who did know he was raping women should be blacklisted from Hollywood.
Colin Firth was told by Sophie Dix what happened and did nothing. Now, im sorry, but if youve been told by a crying woman that someone raped her... you dont just do nothing.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 12, 2020 22:23:05 GMT -5
Harvey Weinstein gained a ton of power and influence and abused the shit out of it. Those types of people will use all types of tactics and threats to intimidate people into silence, especially as he had the means to make good on them. Like it was rumored he had mob connections, too.
It cannot be understated how brave it was for people to come out and make accusations against him as they risked their livelihoods and even their safety to do so.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 12, 2020 22:24:04 GMT -5
Kate Beckinsale's recent post about him was sad to read. Where he called her a c*** for not wearing a dress to his premiere. But why did nobody step in before now? Lena Headey said she was warned about him, Kate Beckinsale got verbally abused by him, he bullied countless other women... and in public (Steve Coogan said he did it in front of him in a recent interview, and to be fair, did confront him about it) I'm sorry, but if I saw someone hurling abusr at someone for not wearing a dress to a premiere, I'd chin him. Yet he was allowed to get away with it. It is like R Kelly, people knew about this shit for years but they deemed it part of the norm of this person and it was never reprimanded like it should have been People like them reach a really high power level in the industry and were untouchable at the time but your time of reckoning eventually comes Im shocked at the lack of morals amd decency that people have. I knew R Kelly was a child abuser bacl when I was in High School. Yet people still worked, willingly, with him. People are STILL working with child rapist Polansky. I get the victims not coming forward, but like, if I was an actor and someone came to me about what Weinstein did, I like to think Id do something rather thsn just saying "Thats just Harvey" and ignoring it.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 12, 2020 22:26:36 GMT -5
Harvey Weinstein gained a ton of power and influence and abused the shit out of it. Those types of people will use all types of tactics and threats to intimidate people into silence, especially as he had the means to make good on them. It's also rumored he had mob connections. I get his victims been scared or lower staff working for him. But A listers like Affleck and Firth not doing anything is shameful. They have just as much power and infkuence. Its not like theyre interns or bit part actors who will lose their career if they spoke out sooner, or better yet, gave him a thrashing. I fully get why his victims didnt come forward. It must be terrifying.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 12, 2020 22:28:02 GMT -5
It is like R Kelly, people knew about this shit for years but they deemed it part of the norm of this person and it was never reprimanded like it should have been People like them reach a really high power level in the industry and were untouchable at the time but your time of reckoning eventually comes Im shocked at the lack of morals amd decency that people have. I knew R Kelly was a child abuser bacl when I was in High School. Yet people still worked, willingly, with him. People are STILL working with child rapist Polansky. I get the victims not coming forward, but like, if I was an actor and someone came to me about what Weinstein did, I like to think Id do something rather thsn just saying "Thats just Harvey" and ignoring it. When you are powerful enough sadly, you can warp your world into whatever vision you want. Harvey had that type of power because he can make people and he can break people and f*** over their career. In the case of R Kelly, the dude no doubt is on the list of greatest R&B artist of all time and was at the top of the game for a long time and it was no secret what he was doing. Things like the stuff with Aaliyah and then the sex tape with him peeing on a girl should have ended him and it didn't It took a gang of people to take these people down finally and say f*** the consequences
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 12, 2020 22:33:29 GMT -5
Harvey Weinstein gained a ton of power and influence and abused the shit out of it. Those types of people will use all types of tactics and threats to intimidate people into silence, especially as he had the means to make good on them. Like it was rumored he had mob connections, too. It cannot be understated how brave it was for people to come out and make accusations against him as they risked their livelihoods and even their safety to do so.
Indeed. Its very easy to say you'd do the right thing when the man you'd be crossing has the means and the will to prevent you from providing for your family. Let's not forget, Weinstein is far from the only man with influence in Hollywood who does this kind of shit, he's just the first to get caught.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 12, 2020 22:57:49 GMT -5
Im shocked at the lack of morals amd decency that people have. I knew R Kelly was a child abuser bacl when I was in High School. Yet people still worked, willingly, with him. People are STILL working with child rapist Polansky. I get the victims not coming forward, but like, if I was an actor and someone came to me about what Weinstein did, I like to think Id do something rather thsn just saying "Thats just Harvey" and ignoring it. When you are powerful enough sadly, you can warp your world into whatever vision you want. Harvey had that type of power because he can make people and he can break people and f*** over their career. In the case of R Kelly, the dude no doubt is on the list of greatest R&B artist of all time and was at the top of the game for a long time and it was no secret what he was doing. Things like the stuff with Aaliyah and then the sex tape with him peeing on a girl should have ended him and it didn't It took a gang of people to take these people down finally and say f*** the consequences My fingers pointed at thosr who also had power and infuence. Like with Lady Gaga collaborating with R-Kelly. She is the biggest star in pop, she could easily have said no. At that point, everyone knew what R Kelly did. But she still saw fit to work with him Or with Weinstein. I dont doubt he could end the careers of interns, scriptwriters, extras and minor actors. But, I dont buy for a second that he could end the careers of the likes of Ben Affleck or Colin Firth or Tarantino who are genuine A Listers and all knew what he was like to varying degrees. I respect Coogan alot for having a word with him for bullying women.
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Post by paulbearer on Mar 12, 2020 23:40:52 GMT -5
You mean the 100 conspiracy theories people have put on his suicide. That’s jumping through hoops Believe what you want. Some might view it as over the top conspiracy theories, others will view the situation as suspicious. Given their resources and connections it's not that far fetched. I dont think other prisoners would care , now pedos on the other hand are NOT liked in the prison system....one such prisoner was beaten to death in norwwegian prison , they cheered as pedos to them is the worst of the worst
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