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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 17:41:41 GMT -5
- The Riott Squad/Ronda and Bellas match, I called it last week that they'd put Liv and Brie in the match together and reference what happened and yeah they did, like come on now bruh. Brie still getting booed. The finish was dope tho. I would rather they reference than act like it never happened. And so Brie got booed. She had been getting boos well before the incident so this isn't a big deal. I'd rather they not reference it especially given the Riott Squad are supposed to be heels. Am I supposed to feel sympathy for Liv compared to Brie or something? Am I supposed to be booing Brie right now? If that's the case then yeah reference it.
Either way the point stands, I dislike that they did it.
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Post by ryanjoste on Oct 6, 2018 17:44:31 GMT -5
I would rather they reference than act like it never happened. And so Brie got booed. She had been getting boos well before the incident so this isn't a big deal. I'd rather they not reference it especially given the Riott Squad are supposed to be heels. Am I supposed to feel sympathy for Liv compared to Brie or something? Am I supposed to be booing Brie right now? If that's the case then yeah reference it.
Either way the point stands, I dislike that they did it. You aren't supposed to feel anything. They are just referencing a fact on commentary. If Brie and Liv were doing something in the ring that referenced it, then it would be something that shouldn't have been done.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 17:55:16 GMT -5
I'd rather they not reference it especially given the Riott Squad are supposed to be heels. Am I supposed to feel sympathy for Liv compared to Brie or something? Am I supposed to be booing Brie right now? If that's the case then yeah reference it.
Either way the point stands, I dislike that they did it. You aren't supposed to feel anything. They are just referencing a fact on commentary. If Brie and Liv were doing something in the ring that referenced it, then it would be something that shouldn't have been done. You're not looking at the full situation. Liv was beating down Brie and Liv straight up said "come on now, how does it feel?" referring to what happened. Graves on commentary during this referenced the fact that Liv told him that she had something for Brie Bella but she didn't say what it was and then afterwards they explained what happened between the 2 when Liv was knocked out. That whole spot happened due to the fact that Brie knocked Liv out, it wasn't just on commentary. Seeing that? Nah, I'm not going to feel sympathetic for Brie given she legit knocked out Liv.
You're saying we're not supposed to feel anything when there's a whole spot dedicated to that interaction.
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Post by ryanjoste on Oct 6, 2018 22:17:05 GMT -5
You aren't supposed to feel anything. They are just referencing a fact on commentary. If Brie and Liv were doing something in the ring that referenced it, then it would be something that shouldn't have been done. You're not looking at the full situation. Liv was beating down Brie and Liv straight up said "come on now, how does it feel?" referring to what happened. Graves on commentary during this referenced the fact that Liv told him that she had something for Brie Bella but she didn't say what it was and then afterwards they explained what happened between the 2 when Liv was knocked out. That whole spot happened due to the fact that Brie knocked Liv out, it wasn't just on commentary. Seeing that? Nah, I'm not going to feel sympathetic for Brie given she legit knocked out Liv.
You're saying we're not supposed to feel anything when there's a whole spot dedicated to that interaction.
You are still not supposed to feel anything regardless of a spot being a reference to it. It is just a spot. It came and went in a second. Hardly something that is trying to evoke a feeling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 22:33:32 GMT -5
You're not looking at the full situation. Liv was beating down Brie and Liv straight up said "come on now, how does it feel?" referring to what happened. Graves on commentary during this referenced the fact that Liv told him that she had something for Brie Bella but she didn't say what it was and then afterwards they explained what happened between the 2 when Liv was knocked out. That whole spot happened due to the fact that Brie knocked Liv out, it wasn't just on commentary. Seeing that? Nah, I'm not going to feel sympathetic for Brie given she legit knocked out Liv.
You're saying we're not supposed to feel anything when there's a whole spot dedicated to that interaction.
You are still not supposed to feel anything regardless of a spot being a reference to it. It is just a spot. It came and went in a second. Hardly something that is trying to evoke a feeling. What? Who told you this? Are you saying that spots aren't supposed to bring forth feelings? Why do you think these wrestlers do what they do? You do know everything they do is to give the audience a reaction right? They don't do it just for people to not react to otherwise they wouldn't do it. There's a reason why Reigns always says he doesn't care if he's booed because it's a reaction, there's a reason why these wrestlers have interviews and say as long as the crowd reacts to them and has some sort of feeling they don't care what they do.
Never have I seen anyone say "well you're not supposed to feel anything to what they do here" when that's the entire point of psychology and storytelling. Storytelling has a purpose.
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Post by ryanjoste on Oct 6, 2018 22:49:58 GMT -5
You are still not supposed to feel anything regardless of a spot being a reference to it. It is just a spot. It came and went in a second. Hardly something that is trying to evoke a feeling. What? Who told you this? Are you saying that spots aren't supposed to bring forth feelings? Why do you think these wrestlers do what they do? You do know everything they do is to give the audience a reaction right? They don't do it just for people to not react to otherwise they wouldn't do it. There's a reason why Reigns always says he doesn't care if he's booed because it's a reaction, there's a reason why these wrestlers have interviews and say as long as the crowd reacts to them and has some sort of feeling they don't care what they do.
Never have I seen anyone say "well you're not supposed to feel anything to what they do here" when that's the entire point of psychology and storytelling. Storytelling has a purpose.
It lasted all of 2 seconds. Brie and Liv may think they were trying to get feelings from the fans, but that is actually something that comes and goes so fast there isn't time to generate feelings. If they truly wanted to go for a reaction, they would have built to it instead of randomly firing it off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 23:03:43 GMT -5
What? Who told you this? Are you saying that spots aren't supposed to bring forth feelings? Why do you think these wrestlers do what they do? You do know everything they do is to give the audience a reaction right? They don't do it just for people to not react to otherwise they wouldn't do it. There's a reason why Reigns always says he doesn't care if he's booed because it's a reaction, there's a reason why these wrestlers have interviews and say as long as the crowd reacts to them and has some sort of feeling they don't care what they do.
Never have I seen anyone say "well you're not supposed to feel anything to what they do here" when that's the entire point of psychology and storytelling. Storytelling has a purpose.
It lasted all of 2 seconds. Brie and Liv may think they were trying to get feelings from the fans, but that is actually something that comes and goes so fast there isn't time to generate feelings. If they truly wanted to go for a reaction, they would have built to it instead of randomly firing it off. Dawg, this isn't true. It doesn't matter if an action a wrestler does lasts half a second because every action they do has a purpose to the audience and their characters. Whether it's how they enter the ring, a taunt they do, what they say to someone else that's trash talking, it all has a purpose. This is talked about all the time on Austin, E&C and Jericho's podcasts when they mention the small things guys do because something small does go a long way. You thinking it not lasting long takes away from how they're trained and the characters they're portraying. All it takes is a millisecond for them to evoke a reaction to the fans or increase storytelling. It might not matter to you but it matters to the wrestlers and a great amount of fans.
Something doesn't have to be shoved down the audience's throats in order for it to generate feelings. Everybody doesn't need things spelled out with a crayon to understand.
If you think that then by all means but not everybody thinks that way.
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Post by thetower52 on Oct 7, 2018 0:21:27 GMT -5
I’m up to the 6 women’s tag match Sarah Logan is f***ing awful
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