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Post by clifford on Jun 20, 2018 5:36:11 GMT -5
Now in saying this I'm assuming that AJ will beat Rusev and go on to face someone else at Summerslam;
But the WWE needs more World Title feuds like this. A fresh matchup, short build, one match and move on. I'm so sick of the 3 or 4 PPV stretch of the same title match like we just had with AJ and Nakamura.
Watch now AJ and Rusev battle at the next 3 ppvs....
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Post by Moppy on Jun 20, 2018 6:25:40 GMT -5
I'm psyched for this match, although AJ can pretty much do no wrong in my eyes.
So it seems Rusev is a face. But is Aiden?
I kind of hope they use that question purely as the build for the match, rather than transition into a Rusev v English feud into Summerslam.
For me, the money's in a face Rusev Day including Lana. But I suspect they'll use English to put a face Rusev over, and I worry that a feud between the two won't be as successful as it should.
Just have a plucky Rusev push AJ to the limits and even without the title, have face Rusev Day feud with Sanity or whatever.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 20, 2018 7:23:42 GMT -5
Now in saying this I'm assuming that AJ will beat Rusev and go on to face someone else at Summerslam; But the WWE needs more World Title feuds like this. A fresh matchup, short build, one match and move on. I'm so sick of the 3 or 4 PPV stretch of the same title match like we just had with AJ and Nakamura. Watch now AJ and Rusev battle at the next 3 ppvs.... Agreed, and it applies to most promotions: one-and-done title shots, so long as they're well booked and well wrestled, serve to put both champion and challenger, winner and loser over, plus it takes the situations where you do have a rematch between two wrestlers and makes them feel more important, because your audience is trained to think "something special must've happened in their first match to necessitate this" instead of "well, of course, they always book the same match for months in a row." Don't know how well I'd trust WWE to execute, but even a title shot where Rusev comes up just short could still easily be a huge step up for him in terms of his overall position on the card. I'm hoping for the guy, of all the guys I've watched who are pretty much 100% WWE developed I think an argument could be made that he's the best of the bunch.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 20, 2018 7:31:46 GMT -5
Said it before. If the homie Rusev wins the title, I'm marking out more than I have for literally any title win since Eddie won the big one.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jun 20, 2018 8:46:58 GMT -5
I want to preface this with, I know different folks different strokes.
AJ Styles appears weekly ready and willing to face new and interesting challengers and so far has had, to no surprise for me, solid matches and yet if you read some of the reactions it's seems like the total opposite.
I'm not sure where the boring aspect comes in, I'm sure it's relative, I just don't see it.
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Post by RKTaker on Jun 20, 2018 9:24:44 GMT -5
Please Rusev, beat this man and take this title off of him. Please end this reign I beg of you. are people seriously turning on aj now?
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Post by chronocross on Jun 20, 2018 9:28:26 GMT -5
Please Rusev, beat this man and take this title off of him. Please end this reign I beg of you. are people seriously turning on aj now? I don't mind him being champion myself as he's always around and defending regularly as opposed to Brock, but I think this sentiment has been going on a couple of months that I can recall. Personally I wouldn't mind if he held it a year and lost it at Survivor Series myself. As for Rusev, I think he will lose and blame it on Aiden and then we'll get the big heel turn with Lana that was reported a month or two ago.
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Post by Aboutreika18 on Jun 20, 2018 9:33:30 GMT -5
Please Rusev, beat this man and take this title off of him. Please end this reign I beg of you. are people seriously turning on aj now? Not sure what's wrong with people "turning" on wrestlers. No-one is above criticism, even if they're one of our favourites.
There's been plenty of times where I've been a fan of a wrestler but still been happy they've lost or were moved out of the title picture, as they were going through the motions, not in any interesting angles or feuds or just needed a break from hogging a belt.
Some of us can put aside our biases to see that something would benefit WWE more in the long run. Like Rusev winning the belt, in this case.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 9:40:42 GMT -5
Please Rusev, beat this man and take this title off of him. Please end this reign I beg of you. are people seriously turning on aj now? Right now? What is wrong with people not liking guys and their booking? Secondly, this isn't new. I and others have been saying this for months now and there's been multiple threads on it. A lot of people on this forum need to learn to respect others and their opinions. That's one of the biggest issues this place has.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 20, 2018 9:44:27 GMT -5
Although, looking at the segment, things ain't looking good for English.
When AJ dropped him, Rusev wasn't mad at AJ. He was looking dead at English like, "fam, you starting to become a liability."
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 20, 2018 9:50:02 GMT -5
I kind of wonder if some people getting a bit bored with AJ as champ are more concerned about issues that might be particular to AJ as a performer or issues that are more structural to WWE itself (it's booking and match style, etc.). Like, we know a lot of people are sick of Brock due to reasons particular to Brock himself, which WWE chooses to overlook, but there are some cases where it's just a matter of the larger show itself instead of the individual wrestler in question.
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Post by RKTaker on Jun 20, 2018 10:40:34 GMT -5
are people seriously turning on aj now? Right now? What is wrong with people not liking guys and their booking? Secondly, this isn't new. I and others have been saying this for months now and there's been multiple threads on it. A lot of people on this forum need to learn to respect others and their opinions. That's one of the biggest issues this place has. not when every single wrestler goes from being a fan favorite to being the most hated guy in the company in two months, you guys all like rusev now but you know what's gonna happen in two months especially if he did win the title? you're gonna turn on him too, just like you guys did with bayley, and are doing now with aj, and braun
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 10:41:52 GMT -5
I'm straight sick of Styles as world champion right now and I'll explain why, I'll get this out of the way.
AJ Styles in the ring isn't why I'm sick of him.
If you judge someone only based on their in-ring skills or think that's the main reason why you should like a wrestler then that's not it for me. I've got no problem with him in the ring, he's great, that's not why I'm bored with him and anything relating to what he does in the ring doesn't connect to me. If this is the main reason you love Styles then you're probably not going to get why I'm bored with the guy, same with others who want the title off him now because most agree with me here.
For one his character is far worse than he used to be. Styles as a face world champion is straight boring. He used to look like he wants to defend his title as being the lead guy on SDL but now he's just there and looks like he's only holding the belt until someone can take it off him. Even last night when he walked out there I thought the same. An example is when Styles as a heel, he was fiery, he had more passion, he just overall had more energy. He's gotten more laidback and boring similar to a 96 HBK without Jose on his back. The difference is HBK was giving high fives to the audience and smiling more than Styles.
His promos are trash now. Anytime Styles grabs a mic I'm not entertained anymore. He says the same old thing, same old styles, he's turned into John Cena when it comes to you knowing what to expect with an AJ Styles promo. In comparison to Rollins for example, I look forward to whenever Rollins cuts a promo because his promo style's just more authentic these days.
Next thing which is the biggest thing to me, Styles as world champion is just going through the runs now. I figured Styles won the belt due to the Nakamura feud and to put Nakamura over, you know, they can get the WM match and Nakamura can go over and be fine, that makes Nakamura look good and it brings into another thing to talk about. Another "era" in the WWE with Nakamura as champion but Nakamura was beaten for months. Now we've got Rusev here. It looks like the boring American champion is running through these foreigners until someone can take the belt off of him and when I think about it now it'll probably be another American. Regardless, I'm not liking Styles as champion because it's the same ol same ol with him. It would be different if this was the IC title but this is the world title and this isn't cutting it. Styles right now is treating that belt like he was Rollins as IC Champion except Rollins was pulling it off better and Rollins had an actual character and storyline with that belt. Now though? This? This is just another "oh yeah Styles is champion, wonder who he's facing now" when I should be saying "man I can't wait to see what Styles does next" and another opponent steps up.
That's just boring.
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Post by chronocross on Jun 20, 2018 10:43:45 GMT -5
Right now? What is wrong with people not liking guys and their booking? Secondly, this isn't new. I and others have been saying this for months now and there's been multiple threads on it. A lot of people on this forum need to learn to respect others and their opinions. That's one of the biggest issues this place has. not when every single wrestler goes from being a fan favorite to being the most hated guy in the company in two months, you guys all like rusev now but you know what's gonna happen in two months especially if he did win the title? you're gonna turn on him too, just like you guys did with bayley, and are doing now with aj, and braun I wouldn't lump everyone in the same group, I hate Bayley's booking, not the person themselves, of course I can't speak for everyone else here. Same thing for Rusev, I thought for sure once he was added to the US title match at Mania, that he was walking away as champion, but it didn't happen and he had been floundering for sometime even though the fans are going nuts for him.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jun 20, 2018 10:44:11 GMT -5
I think the finish for the title match is going to be English trying to cheat to help Rusev, Rusev stops him and berates him and then AJ gets a quick pin to win the match.
This solidifies Rusev as a face gives a reason for a Rusev/English feud if the WWE wants them to break up and AJ can move on to whatever heel is going to beat him soon.
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Post by RKTaker on Jun 20, 2018 10:48:31 GMT -5
not when every single wrestler goes from being a fan favorite to being the most hated guy in the company in two months, you guys all like rusev now but you know what's gonna happen in two months especially if he did win the title? you're gonna turn on him too, just like you guys did with bayley, and are doing now with aj, and braun I wouldn't lump everyone in the same group, I hate Bayley's booking, not the person themselves, of course I can't speak for everyone else here. Same thing for Rusev, I thought for sure once he was added to the US title match at Mania, that he was walking away as champion, but it didn't happen and he had been floundering for sometime even though the fans are going nuts for him. no i am going to lump everyone in the same group because it is a vast majority of people who do this here, and now i'm not going to say almost everyone or a majority or whatever i'm going to say everyone because sometimes it's easier to just say everyone as a group of people
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 11:00:08 GMT -5
Right now? What is wrong with people not liking guys and their booking? Secondly, this isn't new. I and others have been saying this for months now and there's been multiple threads on it. A lot of people on this forum need to learn to respect others and their opinions. That's one of the biggest issues this place has. not when every single wrestler goes from being a fan favorite to being the most hated guy in the company in two months, you guys all like rusev now but you know what's gonna happen in two months especially if he did win the title? you're gonna turn on him too, just like you guys did with bayley, and are doing now with aj, and braun Didn't happen with Ambrose.
Didn't happen with Rollins once he turned face.
Didn't happen with Becky.
Didn't happen with The Usos.
Didn't happen with Jeff.
This doesn't happen with a lot of wrestlers, these are just some. The ones it does happen to? There's a reason for it. Let's go down the list you have there.
Bayley - Fans turned on her because her boring stagnant "yay I'm a fangirl" character couldn't get an edge. That was the whole point of the Alexa feud. She couldn't get an edge against the badgirl, lost and fans lost interest. Makes sense.
Styles - His character is boring. Promos are boring. He's the boring American champion fighting off foreigners and other guys who have more charisma than him and other guys who would shake the title scene up more than he would right now. We don't like him due to that. Makes sense.
Strowman - His character is OP. Given that anytime anyone faces him they're going to lose to the point where guys who need his opportunities don't get it given the company gives him everything like they used to/still do Reigns. Makes sense.
Who else you got? We can keep doing this and we can explain why it makes sense. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. You just don't see it.
We gon' take this slow.
We just gon' peel it back layer-by-layer.
no i am going to lump everyone in the same group because it is a vast majority of people who do this here, and now i'm not going to say almost everyone or a majority or whatever i'm going to say everyone because sometimes it's easier to just say everyone as a group of people You need to learn to debate better if that's the stance you're taking here. You lumping everyone in one group when there's clearly people who differ isn't going to help your case out.
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Post by jonesjupiter on Jun 20, 2018 11:01:24 GMT -5
I don’t want to read back through this thread (or anywhere else for that matter), but I don’t get why everyone is so against this AJ Styles run. That is honestly news to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 11:03:52 GMT -5
I don’t want to read back through this thread (or anywhere else for that matter), but I don’t get why everyone is so against this AJ Styles run. That is honestly news to me. All you have to do is read this one page. Just read up and it makes sense. I think the thing is people don't want others to be against AJ Styles because they like AJ Styles. It's not respecting others and their opinion. People can like AJ all they want but there's clear reasons why people are against him as champion right now. If they don't respect that then that shows they don't have respect for another.
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Post by BigAl on Jun 20, 2018 11:04:04 GMT -5
Right now? What is wrong with people not liking guys and their booking? Secondly, this isn't new. I and others have been saying this for months now and there's been multiple threads on it. A lot of people on this forum need to learn to respect others and their opinions. That's one of the biggest issues this place has. not when every single wrestler goes from being a fan favorite to being the most hated guy in the company in two months, you guys all like rusev now but you know what's gonna happen in two months especially if he did win the title? you're gonna turn on him too, just like you guys did with bayley, and are doing now with aj, and braun I doubt it. Rusev Is almost like Bryan, in that IWC as well as the live crowd chants for him but management put him on ignore or to job list. Look at any past old smackdown ,Shane asked the crowd whom they wanted to see face AJ, crowd loudly went Rusev day, Shane replied "will take into consideration". So Shane and. Bryan picked Ziggler and Corbin (??!!) Lana gets same response as rusev does. No other wrestler currently on smackdown gets as much reaction as rusev and rusev day chants gets heard on Raw and ppv as well The others that everyone got sout on has a valid reason why. braun is not him himself but the fact he won MiTB , which most felt he didn't need as it could have elevated someone who needed it plus he is too indestructible currently. aJ got stagnent due to this Nakamura feud, and most world champs will after a while. Bliss is because she never loses on ppv. Barely takes bumps. Avoids contacts on face which makes for horrid results and basically turned to HHH reign of terror without any memorable match to go with it . lesner is no need for explanation. And New Day desire the crowd loving them. theI humor is getting started plus as a group is holding down Big E and Kofi single runs and Bayley the Bookers failed to capitalize on why she was over on NxT and basically ruined her into having fan's just give up on her Nobody here has soured on Rollins , finn. Joe. Big e Becky, Etc as we all want them to get the top spot. You are just assuming we just go Sour on everyone which is false false.
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