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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 28, 2018 13:15:27 GMT -5
Again, this speaks more to how far broadcast television has fallen more than it does to WWE rising again.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 28, 2018 15:09:30 GMT -5
I don't understand Fox and/or WWE insisting on keeping SD live. SD airs live now and is getting worse numbers than it did when it was taped, possibly the lowest in the show's history. Airing live doesn't mean nearly as much as they seem to believe. Live TV is something that Networks really want for some reason. NASCAR's gotten big money despite low ratings, NFL'll always have big money because the Super Bowl's going to draw big in February and UFC's moving to ESPN despite no real reason for ESPN to take it. The only sport that's grown ratings wise is the NBA and that's pretty well rooted where it is. Ignoring ratings for a second, networks wanting WWE makes sense. International fanbase, stable national audience and potential for easy show crossovers. With the ratings it is stranger for both USA and FOX to pay $2bn a year for 5 years (and both consider their show the flagship, which seems like a PR nightmare for 2020 when we find the full ramifications of these deals and which master WWE focuses on) but hopefully there's a strategy to make these shows must watch. You don't even need a drastic change in creatives but stuff has to mean something for the next week or else we'll get into the pattern where we are now. |
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Post by cjh on Jun 28, 2018 15:14:55 GMT -5
I don't understand Fox and/or WWE insisting on keeping SD live. SD airs live now and is getting worse numbers than it did when it was taped, possibly the lowest in the show's history. Airing live doesn't mean nearly as much as they seem to believe. Live TV is something that Networks really want for some reason. NASCAR's gotten big money despite low ratings, NFL'll always have big money because the Super Bowl's going to draw big in February and UFC's moving to ESPN despite no real reason for ESPN to take it. The only sport that's grown ratings wise is the NBA and that's pretty well rooted where it is. Ignoring ratings for a second, networks wanting WWE makes sense. International fanbase, stable national audience and potential for easy show crossovers. With the ratings it is stranger for both USA and FOX to pay $2bn a year for 5 years (and both consider their show the flagship, which seems like a PR nightmare for 2020 when we find the full ramifications of these deals and which master WWE focuses on) but hopefully there's a strategy to make these shows must watch. You don't even need a drastic change in creatives but stuff has to mean something for the next week or else we'll get into the pattern where we are now. I get their thinking behind it, that people would rather watch a live show. The problem is that the actual ratings don't reflect that. The ratings reflect that people will watch a taped show if the product is hot and won't watch a live show if the product is cold. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 28, 2018 15:41:21 GMT -5
Live TV is something that Networks really want for some reason. NASCAR's gotten big money despite low ratings, NFL'll always have big money because the Super Bowl's going to draw big in February and UFC's moving to ESPN despite no real reason for ESPN to take it. The only sport that's grown ratings wise is the NBA and that's pretty well rooted where it is. Ignoring ratings for a second, networks wanting WWE makes sense. International fanbase, stable national audience and potential for easy show crossovers. With the ratings it is stranger for both USA and FOX to pay $2bn a year for 5 years (and both consider their show the flagship, which seems like a PR nightmare for 2020 when we find the full ramifications of these deals and which master WWE focuses on) but hopefully there's a strategy to make these shows must watch. You don't even need a drastic change in creatives but stuff has to mean something for the next week or else we'll get into the pattern where we are now. I get their thinking behind it, that people would rather watch a live show. The problem is that the actual ratings don't reflect that. The ratings reflect that people will watch a taped show if the product is hot and won't watch a live show if the product is cold. Oh, you're absolutely correct but these networks seem blind to that as long as they have something DVR proof to get the big ad money for to fund other stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 17:23:42 GMT -5
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jun 28, 2018 17:32:17 GMT -5
That’d be a new wrinkle to all of this. Did FOX pay a little more for NXT broadcast rights? Is that included in the fee they paid for SmackDown? Will it affect the layout and format of the show, and when it gets put up on the Network? |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 28, 2018 17:45:21 GMT -5
That’d be a new wrinkle to all of this. Did FOX pay a little more for NXT broadcast rights? Is that included in the fee they paid for SmackDown? Will it affect the layout and format of the show, and when it gets put up on the Network? I imagine it’s a separate deal. Something would’ve come out by now if it was part of the SDL deal. And FS1 is so f***ed for programming when UFC leaves, I wouldn’t be surprised if NXT, 205, NXT UK, Main Event, Experience and Vintage Collection all end up on FS1 eventually |
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jun 28, 2018 18:20:01 GMT -5
If true, this is f***ing huge because now perhaps we get a better feel for how some of that stuff translates to a TV watching audience as opposed to a Full Sail and WWE Network audience. Or that's how I see it, anyway. |
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Post by sunnytaker on Jun 28, 2018 18:25:06 GMT -5
HHH isn't even a pop culture icon, let alone the Bellas. batista is probably a bigger pop culture icon than both of them combined and they don't even mention him |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 7:21:04 GMT -5
Excited for WWE, this is a huge deal.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 29, 2018 7:44:09 GMT -5
Why do we live in a World that rewards mediocrity. Mediocrity is relative. Why do we live in a world that disparages normality? |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jun 29, 2018 8:28:45 GMT -5
Why do we live in a World that rewards mediocrity. Mediocrity is relative. Why do we live in a world that disparages normality? |
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Post by benstudd on Jun 29, 2018 18:45:57 GMT -5
Why do we live in a World that rewards mediocrity. Mediocrity is relative. Why do we live in a world that disparages normality? Mind Blown |
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Post by One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs on Jun 29, 2018 20:50:38 GMT -5
Why do we live in a World that rewards mediocrity. Mediocrity is relative. Why do we live in a world that disparages normality? Because some of us have standards |
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