xxshoyuweeniexx
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Aug 26, 2018 15:25:07 GMT -5
I feel like since we’re only a week into this angle, they can still salvage it by doing the double turn. Hell the fact that they edited the segment and cut out her shitting on the crowd might have them second guessing.
So keep cheering Becky, keep doing it every time she insults the crowd or says something f***ing stupid and heely. She might not face Ronda Rousy or anything, but they can make Charlotte the heel she’s supposed to be.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Aug 26, 2018 15:33:08 GMT -5
Can't wait for "CHARLOTTE THE MOST POLARIZING WOMAN SUPERSTAR!"
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Aug 26, 2018 15:35:39 GMT -5
Can't wait for "CHARLOTTE THE MOST POLARIZING WOMAN SUPERSTAR!" "Controversial" Charlotte |
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Post by RedSmile on Aug 26, 2018 15:39:42 GMT -5
Man, I've seen audiences ignore and no sell heel turns, but I don't know if I've seen audiences outright reject them as vehemently as they have with Becky Lynch.
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Post by Rhody Codes on Aug 26, 2018 15:42:03 GMT -5
Can't wait for Becky to mock the Maple Leafs in a heel promo on Tuesday, only to get cheered by the Toronto fans.
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Post by schma on Aug 26, 2018 15:45:29 GMT -5
Can't wait for Becky to mock the Maple Leafs in a heel promo on Tuesday, only to get cheered by the Toronto fans. Leafs fans are weird. In the dark period where the team couldn't make the playoffs to save their lives, Leafs fans would still hold out hope until the last second with all kinds of complex calculations. Things like 'if this team wins their next two and that team ties the next three games and those five other teams all lose their next game, the Leafs could still make the playoffs.' The amount of logic bending required is phenomenal. That said, if she insults the Leafs I will be cheering. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 26, 2018 15:47:33 GMT -5
Man, I've seen audiences ignore and no sell heel turns, but I don't know if I've seen audiences outright reject them as vehemently as they have with Becky Lynch. Eddie Guerrero. He turned heel on Tajiri, the next week he cut a promo about how he deserved it and the crowd agreed with Eddie... the turn was then quietly dropped pretty shortly after. Bayley attacking Sasha looked like it was meant to be a heel turn that the crowd rejected as well. |
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Post by feartear on Aug 26, 2018 15:48:49 GMT -5
Can't wait for "CHARLOTTE THE MOST POLARIZING WOMAN SUPERSTAR!" Does that mean Charlotte will never win the title again until they find a convoluted way to make the audience cheer her victory? |
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Post by denna5 on Aug 26, 2018 16:37:29 GMT -5
Shocking...not. The logic of the heel turn makes no sense on why Becky is the heel in the situation. She earned the title shot. Charlotte was just handed the shot. Becky had the match one and again cheap rollup win for Charlotte, so how is she heel when she is right? Same with Reigns being a face, As over the Shield was in logic, how does the guy who as a 3 on 1 situation a face in anyway against Braun? but that the direction they are going with and again no logic. They're trying to use the logic of both of them pinned Carmella so they both deserved to be in the match which totally makes Becky the heel. That's their story. It conveniently ignores the months Becky spent climbing through the Smackdown ranks vs Charlotte showing up and being given a match with Carmella after months of inactivity. It also ignores the fact that this had been a true journey for Becky whereas it was just another Tuesday for Charlotte. Really though this is partly on Paige as she okayed the match instead of saying Becky would get a chance to defend herself at Summerslam. Even now in some highlight reels they're playing it up as Charlotte having a chance to regain her title from the one who took it from her, but that rings hollow in a sense. Charlotte has typically had the title or been in contention for almost her entire run since her first Divas championship whereas Becky has barely sniffed the belt since her first run. I think one of the biggest problems with this turn is just how many times Charlotte has had the title. It is her seventh reign of various titles and would have only been Becky's second and it really doesn't help the narrative of Charlotte being just as deserving when she gets title chances way more often. I think if they really wanted to turn Becky, they shouldn't have had Charlotte as the third. Say it was Naomi who hasn't had as many opportunities as Charlotte and is popular with the crowd and it may have worked better. Crowd would probably not be happy with Becky losing but it may not be as bad as it is with Charlotte. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 26, 2018 16:40:22 GMT -5
Man, I've seen audiences ignore and no sell heel turns, but I don't know if I've seen audiences outright reject them as vehemently as they have with Becky Lynch. Sting in WCW was close. But yeah. At this point, Becky could be like "I'm going to kill and eat a small child live in the ring right now, because I am just that evil!!!" and the crowd would chant "EAT THAT KID! EAT THAT KID! EAT THAT KID!". And Road Dogg might just deserve that. |
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Post by 111111 on Aug 26, 2018 17:25:00 GMT -5
If you have someone on the verge of becoming a fan favourite face organically it makes sense to turn then heel in these strange times we live in as fans will be like f*** you and cheer them even more so when you turn then back face they're much more over than they would have been.
I doubt this is WAEs intention but they stumbled upon it with Daniel Bryan before and they've done the same here.
The more of a heel they try and make her the more the fans will revolt and the bigger star they will have on their hands.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 26, 2018 17:25:52 GMT -5
The kid deserved it. About like the kid that LAX ran over on Impact, haha.
See, the Eddie thing was more of a non sequitur attempt at a heel turn. He beat up Tajiri, who was a makeshift tag partner at best, and there was no particular feud in mind. The fans just reacted like Eddie rid himself of a non entity partner and didn't care. If he had viciously attacked Chavo it might have been different, but even then Eddie was over so I dunno.
With Sting fans just refused to boo him and cheer for Hogan. That's what years of booking will condition someone to do. Given the whole inane Hummer angle in WCW Sting seemed fairly justified in just finally losing it and laying people out, including Hogan.
Goldberg's heel turn on Nash is another laugher. Hey, let's boo Goldberg for attacking the guy that ended his long win streak via nefarious means.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Aug 26, 2018 17:37:42 GMT -5
At some point, WWE will have to pick a battle with the fans that they can't win. Maybe not for a long time, but eventually they will have to change this "f*** the fans" philosophy.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Aug 26, 2018 17:41:21 GMT -5
I actually think Charlotte is a fantastic wrestler; one of the very best in the whole company.
But godDAMN do I ever want to boo her. Especially when her entire gimmick is "Lady who is amazing and totally knows it."
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Post by Shy Guy on Aug 26, 2018 18:10:58 GMT -5
Can't wait for Becky to mock the Maple Leafs in a heel promo on Tuesday, only to get cheered by the Toronto fans. Leafs fans are weird. In the dark period where the team couldn't make the playoffs to save their lives, Leafs fans would still hold out hope until the last second with all kinds of complex calculations. Things like 'if this team wins their next two and that team ties the next three games and those five other teams all lose their next game, the Leafs could still make the playoffs.' The amount of logic bending required is phenomenal. That said, if she insults the Leafs I will be cheering. i grew up in a leafs house, and this is totally true. my brother holds out hope every year that its "their year", and it just...never is. Tavares is a huge signing, which has only gotten his hopes up again. with the toronto crowd, she can attack the leafs, and get booed. but then people will cheer because its becky, and then they'll cry because its the leafs and probably true. |
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Post by Shark on Aug 26, 2018 18:29:59 GMT -5
If get to see Becky Tuesday night, I'm not booing. I might even buy her shirt if it's available I've been to a lot of Smackdown shows and I don't think I've seen her shirts available. Her goggles always are though so you can get those. |
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Aug 26, 2018 18:32:40 GMT -5
Can't wait for "CHARLOTTE THE MOST POLARIZING WOMAN SUPERSTAR!" Does that mean Charlotte will never win the title again until they find a convoluted way to make the audience cheer her victory? Lady Shield confirmed? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 18:37:01 GMT -5
Shocking...not. The logic of the heel turn makes no sense on why Becky is the heel in the situation. She earned the title shot. Charlotte was just handed the shot. Becky had the match one and again cheap rollup win for Charlotte, so how is she heel when she is right? Same with Reigns being a face, As over the Shield was in logic, how does the guy who as a 3 on 1 situation a face in anyway against Braun? but that the direction they are going with and again no logic. Yeah, Becky had to beat The IIconics, Absolution AND Carmella to get the shot. Had Charlotte done that as well I'd be more sympathetic to her, but nope, she comes back, wins one match and she's in. And it's not like she had the rematch clause or anything, because Carmella beat her clean at Backlash already. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 18:38:22 GMT -5
Shocking...not. The logic of the heel turn makes no sense on why Becky is the heel in the situation. She earned the title shot. Charlotte was just handed the shot. Becky had the match one and again cheap rollup win for Charlotte, so how is she heel when she is right? Same with Reigns being a face, As over the Shield was in logic, how does the guy who as a 3 on 1 situation a face in anyway against Braun? but that the direction they are going with and again no logic. I think both instances are fairly logical. Braun is waiting till Roman wrestles a full match before he makes his moves, so it makes sense that Roman could use backup to defend against his cash in attempts. Meanwhile with Becky, her frustration is understandable, but her and Charlotte both went into the match with a "may the best woman win" attitude. Charlotte won in accordance to the rules and was the best woman that night, yet Becky assaulted her, she's doesn't really have a moral high ground there. To me, the only thing about both feuds that goes against logic is the fact that people are put in a position to be booed that fans don't really wanna boo. |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Aug 26, 2018 19:03:14 GMT -5
Shocking...not. The logic of the heel turn makes no sense on why Becky is the heel in the situation. She earned the title shot. Charlotte was just handed the shot. Becky had the match one and again cheap rollup win for Charlotte, so how is she heel when she is right? Same with Reigns being a face, As over the Shield was in logic, how does the guy who as a 3 on 1 situation a face in anyway against Braun? but that the direction they are going with and again no logic. I think both instances are fairly logical. Braun is waiting till Roman wrestles a full match before he makes his moves, so it makes sense that Roman could use backup to defend against his cash in attempts. Meanwhile with Becky, her frustration is understandable, but her and Charlotte both went into the match with a "may the best woman win" attitude. Charlotte won in accordance to the rules and was the best woman that night, yet Becky assaulted her, she's doesn't really have a moral high ground there. To me, the only thing about both feuds that goes against logic is the fact that people are put in a position to be booed that fans don't really wanna boo. But that's the point, right? They go out of their way to make Becky the sympathetic underdog and Charlotte the smug jerk that gets gifted title opportunities, then perplexingly turn Becky heel. (Also the WWE only has itself to blame for Charlotte's actions looking heelish, because every victory that isn't finisher --> pin is called 'stealing a win.') |
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